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ruddyman

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Hi, I'm assuming that this is an easy question for some of you. The m1 Pro 10/16 had 8 performance cores and 2 efficiency. The m2 pro base is also 10/16 but has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. Which one has the performance advantage for general use?
 

leman

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They should be about the same in multi-core, with M2 Pro being faster in single-core.
 

ruddyman

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Why u think Apple would release a new CPU with less performance?

From the keynote for specific apps 20% faster CPU and 30% faster G
Why u think Apple would release a new CPU with less performance?

From the keynote for specific apps 20% faster CPU and 30% faster GPU
Thanks. I understand that but the m2 pro machine I’m comparing has fewer performance cores than the m1 I’m comparing. I’m asking if it still has the advantage. Understand?
 

Ilzen&Mac

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Aug 4, 2009
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Hi, I'm assuming that this is an easy question for some of you. The m1 Pro 10/16 had 8 performance cores and 2 efficiency. The m2 pro base is also 10/16 but has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. Which one has the performance advantage for general use?
Hi, I have myself spent quite some time comparing all these specs for the same config as you are asking for. Have to say I decided to get the basic M2 Pro in the MBP 14.

But from what I have seen written in a very small font at the bottom of the page on Apple’s website, they have tried to dramatically optimise all these benchmarking and testing conditions to achieve these abstract 20%… Everywhere it said, that M1 were tested in final devices sold on the market whereas M2 were tested in (!) prototypes! God knows what exactly this could mean.

I don’t expect the performance of M2 Pro to drop but could well imagine that inspite of all Apple optimisations between generations there will be barely any improvement really noticeable between M1 Pro and M2 Pro. For me however the battery life was also really critical. Therefore I’m taking the whole marketing games quite chill and am happy to get the newest and hopefully more stable version.
 

ruddyman

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Hi, I have myself spent quite some time comparing all these specs for the same config as you are asking for. Have to say I decided to get the basic M2 Pro in the MBP 14.

But from what I have seen written in a very small font at the bottom of the page on Apple’s website, they have tried to dramatically optimise all these benchmarking and testing conditions to achieve these abstract 20%… Everywhere it said, that M1 were tested in final devices sold on the market whereas M2 were tested in (!) prototypes! God knows what exactly this could mean.

I don’t expect the performance of M2 Pro to drop but could well imagine that inspite of all Apple optimisations between generations there will be barely any improvement really noticeable between M1 Pro and M2 Pro. For me however the battery life was also really critical. Therefore I’m taking the whole marketing games quite chill and am happy to get the newest and hopefully more stable version.
Thanks for chiming in!
 

RabidMacFan

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Comparing the M1 and M2 models is pretty confusing because there are so many factors to consider now.

For example, there is no 32-core GPU in the M2 line. How does the 30-core GPU of the M2 Max compare to the 32-core GPU of the M1 Max?

In the real word, how does the 6 performance and 4 efficiency cores of the M2 CPU compare to the 8 performance and 2 efficiency cores of the M1? Does this sacrifice performance for battery life? Or does the higher clock speed of each core completely compensate for this difference?

I think we'll have to wait until benchmarks come out. But what are your thoughts?
 

ruddyman

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Comparing the M1 and M2 models is pretty confusing because there are so many factors to consider now.

For example, there is no 32-core GPU in the M2 line. How does the 30-core GPU of the M2 Max compare to the 32-core GPU of the M1 Max?

In the real word, how does the 6 performance and 4 efficiency cores of the M2 CPU compare to the 8 performance and 2 efficiency cores of the M1? Does this sacrifice performance for battery life? Or does the higher clock speed of each core completely compensate for this difference?

I think we'll have to wait until benchmarks come out. But what are your thoughts?
I have no idea how they compare in the real world but I'm asking because I'm still in the return window for the m1. I could get the BASE m2 for the same price I paid for the m1. My thinking is that a 2023 sounds a lot better than 2021, and Apple will likely give at least another year of OS updates to the 2023 compared to the 2021. OS updates matter more to me than performance because I'll keep it a while. I have an iMac that still works great but I had to hack the latest OS onto it.
 

michelg1970

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Jul 26, 2011
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Easy: return and get the newer one. The MBA M2 is around 10 - 20% faster than the MBA M1 in benchmark tests so the M2 Pro will be faster than the M1 Pro. And if it doesn't cost you...

I just checked and Apple offers 880 euro for my M1 Pro 14" 10-16 1TB, just over a year old. If I were in your shoes I would be running to the store to change my M1 Pro for a M2 Pro.
 
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SpitUK

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The 4 efficiency cores in the M2 Pro will make general tasks in MacOS be snappier than the M1 Pro. I notice it in my M2 MacBook Air, it is faster browsing and general tasks than my M1 Max Studio.

The M2 is faster in single core performance which is what the majority of tasks uses the most.

I would definitely go for the M2 Pro.
 

ruddyman

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You can get the M1 Pro models for like $500 or more off
Yes, I got the m1pro 10/16 1TB for $500 off. The base model m2pro 10/16 with 1 TB is the same price with ed discount. The difference is that the m2Pro has 6 performance cores while my m1 pro has 8 performance cores. That's what I'm asking about :)
 

ruddyman

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Jul 2, 2010
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The 4 efficiency cores in the M2 Pro will make general tasks in MacOS be snappier than the M1 Pro. I notice it in my M2 MacBook Air, it is faster browsing and general tasks than my M1 Max Studio.

The M2 is faster in single core performance which is what the majority of tasks uses the most.

I would definitely go for the M2 Pro.
Thank you!
 

Ilzen&Mac

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Aug 4, 2009
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Krefeld, Germany
Comparing the M1 and M2 models is pretty confusing because there are so many factors to consider now.

For example, there is no 32-core GPU in the M2 line. How does the 30-core GPU of the M2 Max compare to the 32-core GPU of the M1 Max?

In the real word, how does the 6 performance and 4 efficiency cores of the M2 CPU compare to the 8 performance and 2 efficiency cores of the M1? Does this sacrifice performance for battery life? Or does the higher clock speed of each core completely compensate for this difference?

I think we'll have to wait until benchmarks come out. But what are your thoughts?
What also surprised me in the new specs of M2 Pro is actually the advanced configuration: It has 19 GPU cores whereas all other ones (incl. M2 Max) always have the typical in IT world even numbers...

I mean, they don't do a sandwich here with an extra slice on top, so wouldn't there be an empty space for the 20th core / where do they stick in the 19th one then?
 
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skardvin

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The 4 efficiency cores in the M2 Pro will make general tasks in MacOS be snappier than the M1 Pro. I notice it in my M2 MacBook Air, it is faster browsing and general tasks than my M1 Max Studio.

The M2 is faster in single core performance which is what the majority of tasks uses the most.

I would definitely go for the M2 Pro.
If the M2 Macbook Air had ProMotion, I would have bought it instead of my M1 Pro Macbook Pro 14. I noticed the difference when I tested it at the Apple store. 120hz felt so much smoother, at least for me.
 
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