10.4.9 Brings Additional Phone Support

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SMS From Adressbook

I still can't send SMS messages trew my phone using adressbook, that always worked fine with my SE T610, but since i have a p910i it just aint working no more, i really miss that functionality,but it seems it is something that apple does not care about only syncing works for them i guess.

 

[mfacey]

I stikll can't send SMS messages trew my phone using adressbook, that always worked fine with my SE T610, but since i have a p910i it just aint workuing no more, i really muiss that functionality,but it seems it is something that apple does not acre abiout only syncen works for them i guess

Whoaw dude! Spelling checker and punctuation please!

The address book integration seems to be a more widespread issue though. Its very annoying. Being able to send messages from address book is quite a nice feature normally.

 

[aafuss1]

iPhone-I remember from the MWSF coverage,that it's synced through iTunes.

 

[3282872]

And that is a K1m Krzr phone...SO I'm confused

It is important to note that some of the syncing issues may NOT be with Mac OS X but with the service provider. Note that Verizon has intentionally crippled many of the bluetooth capabilities of their phones in order to force subscribers to use their pay services such as "Get It Now" and uploading of contact lists. If Mac users are still having difficulties syncing their phones, chances are if you're a Verizon customer it may be for those reasons. As an ex-Verizon customer I had difficulties syncing my RAZR v3 and later discovered it was due to Verizons crippling of OBEX and later crippling of contact exchange. I switched to Cingular and have none of those problems with my RAZR v3.

 

[BLACK MAC]

I have a motorola K1m (MotoKRZR) and it doesn't sync with iSync...why is this?

I have the same exact phone and it worked just fine. You check your phone display as you are trying to connect via bluetooth.

 

[lorductape]

it's like they're encouraging me NOT to buy an iphone

 

[iBookG4user]

My Samsung SGH-T509 is still not compatible . I was using BluePhoneElite2 but I can't get that to work anymore without changing the date to February.

 

[kudzudog]

Getting recognized by iSync

It is important to note that some of the syncing issues may NOT be with Mac OS X but with the service provider. Note that Verizon has intentionally crippled many of the bluetooth capabilities of their phones in order to force subscribers to use their pay services such as "Get It Now" and uploading of contact lists. If Mac users are still having difficulties syncing their phones, chances are if you're a Verizon customer it may be for those reasons. As an ex-Verizon customer I had difficulties syncing my RAZR v3 and later discovered it was due to Verizons crippling of OBEX and later crippling of contact exchange. I switched to Cingular and have none of those problems with my RAZR v3.

I had this problem, but found that if I shut off Bluetooth and got rediscovered through iSync, I was recognized.

Good luck!

 

[matticus008]

Wouldn't it be sensible for Apple and/or cellphone manufacturers to release decent iSync plugins for their phones whenever new ones are released?
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Why don't companies just do it themselves, and avoid the angst and embarrassment?

The bigger issue is, "why does every phone manufacturer need to reinvent the wheel with each minor model variation?" Even if each manufacturer didn't buy into a single standard, why can't they at least use their own proprietary one across the line? That way, if you have a Samsung phone and your sync application of choice supports SamsungSyncProtocol, you're off to the races instead of fiddling around because the 8300gx works but the 8300gz doesn't (not real model numbers, I know).

I plan to seriously look at the iPhone, but it pisses me off I cant easily do stuff with my blackberry.....

Look into the solutions posted already, or try Google. As a former Blackberry user and a Mac user, I don't see where the problem lies. There are a few features that are possible only with their own Windows software, which is RIM's fault and no one else's.

I'm somewhat surprised that Apple haven't taken the line of

"If you want to sync your phone, then buy the iPhone", and stopped development of iSync.

That would be absurd. That would be like taking away support for non-Apple displays and keyboards. Apple can't kill iSync, because it's for more than just phones, and it's built with Bluetooth and USB syncing, for which there are standard profiles. They could stop developing fixes for finicky phones, but it shouldn't be up to the OS to make itself compatible with the devices. The manufacturers should make a greater effort to be compatible with Macs--the fact that Apple works to make phones compatible is bonus, not an expectation.

Spot on, the iPhone is not a business phone. All other smartphones are, though.

What makes it not a business phone? If the "install anything you want" aspect is what you're thinking, I've got news for you: most corporate phone users don't install additional software, and many are prohibited from doing so on company hardware; whatever third party software is ultimately available will probably cover all the essentials used for add-in software (IM, a few games, RSS reader, Salling Clicker). The iPhone seems to work with Exchange, and that's really the big sticking point. Text input will really be something decisive, but we just don't know yet.

 

[Stella]

I most certainly don't have a Windows machine...

You make it sound like its something from Satan!!

 

[Stella]

Yes, it would be absured.

Realistically, there isn't much incentive for phone manufacturers to make OSX software for their cell phones - there just isn't the market share.

That would be absurd. That would be like taking away support for non-Apple displays and keyboards. Apple can't kill iSync, because it's for more than just phones, and it's built with Bluetooth and USB syncing, for which there are standard profiles. They could stop developing fixes for finicky phones, but it shouldn't be up to the OS to make itself compatible with the devices. The manufacturers should make a greater effort to be compatible with Macs--the fact that Apple works to make phones compatible is bonus, not an expectation.

The iPhone lacks too many features, such as Exchange integration, also no Blackberry support. Apple may add that, or allow a 3rd party app... but its not 100% certain.

Also, the iPhone is locked to high heaven, especially to the cell networks. Not to mention its price. Blackberry dominate the corporate world and I don't think the iPhone will make a dent. The iPhone a consumer device and that is how Apple is marketing it. There are smartphones ( suitable for the corporate world ) and then there's the iPhone ( the consumer device). Worlds apart.

Additionally, there aren't any MS office viewers like found on other smartphones such as Nokia, SE, Backberry, etc. When it comes to IM - I expect the iPhone will support AIM, but the vast majority of people use MSN ( or Blackberry messaging ).

 

[bilbo--baggins]

Still no support for Sony Ericsson M600i or P990

Bangs head against wall...

 

[Stella]

I still can't send SMS messages trew my phone using adressbook, that always worked fine with my SE T610, but since i have a p910i it just aint working no more, i really miss that functionality,but it seems it is something that apple does not care about only syncing works for them i guess.

My P900 wouldn't work with AddressBook either and sending of SMS.

There was an addon for AdressBook to allow limited functionality, but it still wouldn't send SMS.

 

[rspress]

I wish Apple would work on Address Book support!

While I have had several phones that have been support by iSync I have not had one that was supported in Address Book.

I have a Motorola V3 RAZR, probably the most popular phone out there right now.....until the iPhone gets here and while the my phone numbers, email address, etc. sync just fine I cannot use address book to display incoming cell phone calls or send SMS messages right from address book.

I can get most of these functions by using Blue Phone Elite but it does not tie into the system like address book does. Since Blue Phone can do this with the V3 there should be no reason Apple can not do it.


When the bluetooth button pops up in Address Book and I try to pair my already paired phone it appears to work but nothing happens. At least I get the full sync function from iSync just not the bells and whistles in address book.

 

[Zmmyt]

Does anyone know, if it is possible to go online with my Samsung D600, if I have a valid phone number, username and password?

thx!

 

[EagerDragon]

it's like they're encouraging me NOT to buy an iphone

makes sense not to buy one at first and wait for the next version instead. 3G, more memory, less bugs, maybe 802.11n, more features.

 

[EagerDragon]

The one thing I want real bad is the ability to sync the calendars with multiple machines (one PC (work) and one Mac (my baby)). Obviously to the correct calendar.

So far not an easy task

 

[superleccy]

The one thing I want real bad is the ability to sync the calendars with multiple machines (one PC (work) and one Mac (my baby)). Obviously to the correct calendar.

Hmmm... I've been doing this successfully for quite a while.

At home I sync my Nokia N80 with my iBook (Contacts & Calendars) using iSync. Before 10.4.9 I used the Novomedia plugin.

At work I sync my Outlook calendar (I don't bother with the contacts - that does just screw things up) with my N80 using Nokia's PC suite. Apart from some tweaking of duplicate entries because (until now) iSync wouldn't sync daynotes correctly... it just works! Every time I add an appointment to either my N80, iBook or Work PC, it eventually ripples through to the other two.

To be on the safe side I also take regular backups of my OS X calendar and address book - just in case it screws up on me one day.

I also did this with my Nokia 7610 before I got my N80

SL

 

[EagerDragon]

Hmmm... I've been doing this successfully for quite a while.

At home I sync my Nokia N80 with my iBook (Contacts & Calendars) using iSync. Before 10.4.9 I used the Novomedia plugin.

At work I sync my Outlook calendar (I don't bother with the contacts - that does just screw things up) with my N80 using Nokia's PC suite. Apart from some tweaking of duplicate entries because (until now) iSync wouldn't sync daynotes correctly... it just works! Every time I add an appointment to either my N80, iBook or Work PC, it eventually ripples through to the other two.

To be on the safe side I also take regular backups of my OS X calendar and address book - just in case it screws up on me one day.

I also did this with my Nokia 7610 before I got my N80

SL

Does it kept them separate on the computers or does it mix them?
Do the work ones end up on the phone work calendar and the home ones in the home calendar?

 

[superleccy]

Does it kept them separate on the computers or does it mix them?
Do the work ones end up on the phone work calendar and the home ones in the home calendar?

It mixes them. The Mac can handle multiple calendars, as can MS Outlook, but the N80 only has 1 calendar - so everything merges on that.

SL

 

[netdog]

No Chocolate support yet? Just incredible.

 

[gikku]

lets rejoice;
* Sony Ericsson K610i Bluetooth + USB + woo hoo

it's only been about a year since release.

Surely this is major benefit to many, why wasn't this detail included in the Apple "about this.." rather than the bland and meaningless "recommended for all users" ?

 

[MacAodh]

You make it sound like its something from Satan!!

Isn't it????


But lads!!!! still no sagem, please please please apple... support my baby!!!

but then again, please please please sagem, support my baby!!! (yea, probably more on target )

 

[zenntench_oni]

no sidekick 3 yet then...

lol yup apple just left the sidekick on the side. .

 

[madog]

Those millions of users will be pissed and not really consider the mac as a real business machine....its ridiculous...its one of the only smartphones out there thats not connected to Windows mobile and yet they cant use the bluetooth or any very cool address book features of the Mac...it pisses me off that my old motorola has more functionality with the Mac than my brand new Blackberry. I plan to seriously look at the iPhone, but it pisses me off I cant easily do stuff with my blackberry.....

Is it really Apple's fault? Don't most of the phones that iSync support not have their own software that comes with the phone, such as with Palm phones and Blackberry and WinCE phones? Palm is just one of the companies that have their own software specifically for mac and with BB and CE you need some third party software for support.

Isn't that one of the reasons Apple is coming out with the iPhone in the first place? To fill that giant gap for business users. How effective it will be is a different story.