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Project said:
Thats a pretty significant uprooting under the hood. A ton of improvements. The groundwork has definitely been laid for Apple to pile on the features for Leopard.

Its the small things that please me though. System wide grammar check? I love it.

Yeah, that whole line of features mentioned made me do an out loud WOOT!
 
don't wanna change this into a 'impressoin of 10.5' thread, but i'll answer any questions about the dev's preview, if that's allowed.

one thing i wanna say is that safari is refreshingly better. my friends myspace pages loads fast and scrolls smoother. cheers.7
 
Plus, one long awaited Safari feature...
Tabs are enabled by default with the tab bar hidden if only one tab is open AND one can move tabs.

Saw it in a Video on Youtube as I am still waiting on those *** ****** ******** ********* ***** ****** **** *** ****** ***** ********* ****** ******* ******* at Apple to post the Developer Preview to ADC Select members.
 
cyberdogl2 said:
don't wanna change this into a 'impressoin of 10.5' thread, but i'll answer any questions about the dev's preview, if that's allowed.

one thing i wanna say is that safari is refreshingly better. my friends myspace pages loads fast and scrolls smoother. cheers.7

Cool.

Are there any things of interest that haven't been covered? I've seen quite a few things about little details that are really interesting (Like motion blurs, and other interface enhancements). I think leopard is going to be really cool, so I'm excited. :)
 
leopard is gonna be pretty cool, but not in the way you might think.* i mean, judging from the preview, it sure is impressive, but i know we've been spoiled by past releases of os x.* meaning, time machine, spaces, and notes in mail are awesome, but feel a little thin compared to the splash and fanfare of dashboard, expose, and other stuff

GRANTED i know that there are many features that are top secret that will certainly wow us.* but SO far everything looks grand and it looks like it's on its way to becomming one of the best/solid releases every when it's ready to get off the grill early next year.

the dev preview is SUPRISINGLY stable.* i've had to pair my bluetooth kb and mouse, and democracy software doesn't work for me.* adium works, as does acquisition and transmission.

i love Spaces a lot more than I thought I would.* It's a great way to focus on what you're doing.* Sometimes I get sidetracked when doing too many things at once.
 
I don't completely understand what a "shared account" is, and how it differs from a regular or managed account that many people know the password to. Isn't it the same if I set up a guest account, or an account that anyone can log into to work on the same documents? What exactly does a "shared account" mean?
 
I'm not a developer, but it seems like they've really done a lot of under the hood type changes in the Dev. preview. Time Machine and Spaces being the "flashy" features for now.

I have a feeling that alot of the under the hood type of stuff that we already know about is going to be heavily used in the "top secret features".

I am however disappointed a little bit in Safari. I know that there's only so much you can do with a web browser but it kinda feels like Safari is being upgraded from 2.0 -> 3.0 without the features to justify it. The "webclip" thing is nice, but obviously not something you'll use everyday. The find feature is nice too, but that's really about it. I except improved "snappiness" just because it should always get faster as the rendering engine improves. Where are the changes that justify Safari's version increase? Webclip is "flashy", the find is "useful" but really two new features and that's it? I'm not picking on Safari, I just don't want to see Apple take the MS road and only do major upgrades to Safari when they feel like they have to. If anybody can come up with cool ways to improve the web browsing experience it's Apple. And I just hate to see Safari sit nearly idle when its one of the most used apps on anybody's Mac.
 
yea i wish they would at least add a "new tab" button :mad:

i know that i could download something to do this, but id rather it come with safari
 
markkk! said:
I would like to know this too.

It runs buttersmooth on my 466 MHz G4 with a Core Image capable video card.

Why is it that no ones mentioned Classic is gone except me? o_O'

You try to click on an OS9 app, and it doesnt work.

For the Leopard UI to be smooth, all you really need is a Quartz Extreme video card, and it gets even smoother with a CI card.
 
I'm siked about 10.5 :) can't wait until the release.

I think time machine will be a huge plus on my end. I can't wait to play with it and see how the final works.

I also would like to see Mail work a bit faster and better with more features aiming at the business user. I dislike how Mail removes all your emails from the account they were received on, once the email account is removed from Mail. I was running into problems with Mail, so I removed all my accounts to reset them up.. When I reset things up again I seen all my mail was removed. I'm not a expert using Mail, I know the basics and it gets me by. I'm a windows switcher since Jan 06 (first intel imac). I was use to outlook and how it worked.

I would like to see mail load messages faster and process thousands of emails. I could store 10,000 emails in outlook no problem. Mail lags a bit with 1,000 emails.
 
I found this one on Thinksecret.

dvdplayer.jpg


Could apple be giving us hints of whats to come?
 
Littleodie914 said:
Like what? :confused:

Looks like a very very slightly rearranged version of the DVD Player.

I think he means the window style and buttons. I wouldn't mind seeing that throughout the OS.
 
I managed to get Leopard Preview DVD yesterday (don't ask how) and installed it on external firewire disk, used it for 24 hours and here's few things I've observed so far, just don't tell Apple ;) ,

1) There are very few application which are updated. Some are even older than current, like BootCamp which is 1.0.2, and since it is DP, all iLife apps are same versions except DVD Player which is 3.0-nothing different except UI. QuickTime is 7.2.

2) Finder is exactly the same but little faster (no tabbed windows). Spotlight search window has toolbar similar to iTunes, and searching is little faster.

3) Spaces is a handy tool but a little confusing at first. There is also an option to collect windows from all spaces into one.

4) I haven't tried Time Machine yet, but will soon post about it.

5) Mail has more accurate Junk Filter now and all other features previewed at WWDC.

6) Safari 3.0 loads pages much faster and has an extra button in toolbar colored dark brown which is actually a shortcut to Webclip widget shown at WWDC.

7) Leopard now has a separate app for transferring files and settings from another Mac similar to one you see during installation.

8) Boot time is faster than Tiger. The Mac OSX Startup screen does not appear at all. Just the gray Apple logo and straight to Login screen.

9) Right-Click by tapping two fingers on trackpad does not work after startup, but after unchecking-checking that option in Sys-Pref brings it back. Similarly, Parallels needs reinstall, and PS needs re-activation. Otherwise, it is pretty solid.

I Haven't found any "Top Secret" features so far. I think Apple is keeping them for themselves and developing in-house. I'll keep you guys updated, provided Apple does not come knocking on my door. I could not post screenshots since they are already taken down by Apple from other sites. So just keep reading.
 
menziep said:
I found this one on Thinksecret.

dvdplayer.jpg


Could apple be giving us hints of whats to come?

That was brushed metal before, right? I really think they're going to replace brushed metal with that dark unified look. Hopefully, though, the whole interface isn't like that...
 
maxrobertson said:
That was brushed metal before, right? I really think they're going to replace brushed metal with that dark unified look. Hopefully, though, the whole interface isn't like that...

that could simply be UNO, right?

and yes, DVD Player was brushed metal.
 
joyharr said:
1) There are very few application which are updated. Some are even older than current, like BootCamp which is 1.0.2, and since it is DP, all iLife apps are same versions except DVD Player which is 3.0-nothing different except UI. QuickTime is 7.2.


Almost all the apps are updated. Why would iLife get updated, it's not part of the OS.
 
Sky Blue said:
Almost all the apps are updated. Why would iLife get updated, it's not part of the OS.

iLife isn't part of DP because it is for developers. But it certainly is part of OS. I wouldn't buy Leopard if it comes without iTunes, DVD Player and iMovie.
 
amols said:
iLife isn't part of DP because it is for developers. But it certainly is part of OS. I wouldn't buy Leopard if it comes without iTunes, DVD Player and iMovie.
It's not part of the OS. DVD Player isn't part of iLife, iTunes is loosely connected, but available freely, and iMovie is a part of iLife. Leopard will not come with iMovie, just as Tiger did not.

Both iLife and the OS ship with new Macs, of course, as always.
 
amols said:
iLife isn't part of DP because it is for developers. But it certainly is part of OS. I wouldn't buy Leopard if it comes without iTunes, DVD Player and iMovie.

It certainly isn't part of OS. (most of this has been stated by matticus008 but)

iLife is iMovie,iPhoto,iWeb,GarageBand and iDVD. You will not get the updated versions of these when you buy Leopard. iTunes is also part of iLife but thats Free anyway.

Applications like DVD Player, Quicktime, Mail, Safari etc are part of the OS
 
Leopard in the Wild

Cringely reported on Inforworld that the developer release is on the Torrents...

Geez, whats this world coming to? I guess thats why he holds back on some of the more interesting stuff in the Beta's.
 
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