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bbednarz

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Amazon has them for $369 as a refurb. Think its a worthwhile buy at that price? I've been looking at getting an iPad for awhile now, but have been holding off. I really like the pro-motion screen, but don't want to have it be slow as molasses in a year or two after another 1 or 2 iPad OS updates.
 

HandsomeDanNZ

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I'm still running a 9.7" iPP on iPadOS 13 and it's absolutely fine.

It's not going to be crazily slow unless you want it to do something graphically intense for a sustained period.
 
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boston04and07

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That’s my main device right now and it’s great. I plan on keeping it for a very long time. In fact, I like it so much that I’m considering adding a 12.9” 2017 iPad Pro for the extra screen space now that mouse support is a thing - I like that iPad generation and form factor that much.
 
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rui no onna

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I'd be concerned about battery life and lack of warranty since non-Apple refurbs are essentially same as used. It's worth considering at that price though.

We have the A9/2GB 2017 iPad 9.7 and even those are performing pretty well for typical consumption usage.
 
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smooth0906

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I'm glad I held off then. It said they appear new and everything, but still wasn't totally sold.
[doublepost=1563383276][/doublepost][doublepost=1563383392][/doublepost]Walmart had a great sale not long ago; 299.00 for a 10.5 pro; 64 Gig; non-cellular. I have the 2nd generation 12.9. I couldn't pass up on that deal. They may have another sale like that soon possibly.
 

bbednarz

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[doublepost=1563383392][/doublepost]Walmart had a great sale not long ago; 299.00 for a 10.5 pro; 64 Gig; non-cellular. I have the 2nd generation 12.9. I couldn't pass up on that deal. They may have another sale like that soon possibly.
Hot damn, I'll have to keep my eye open for that. Was that new or refurb?
 

landi.erik

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Amazon has them for $369 as a refurb. Think its a worthwhile buy at that price? I've been looking at getting an iPad for awhile now, but have been holding off. I really like the pro-motion screen, but don't want to have it be slow as molasses in a year or two after another 1 or 2 iPad OS updates.

Since no one really commented on the second part of the question regarding the slow down of the iPad over iPad OS updates I will offer my 2 cents. In my house I have deployed 1 iPad mini 4, iPad Air 2 and iPad Pro 10.5. In my testing of these devices iPadOS has actually been FASTER then iOS 12. It seems like apple has really put a renewed effort into memory management; app caching and reduction in overall file sizes of apps and the OS. My general rule of thumb is that an iPad will run exceptionally well within 3 OS releases from the original shipping OS. The 2 OS releases after the first 3 run stable with some missing features and slight slow down, from there the device will show its age and generally be obsolete in 6-7 OS releases. So I would suggest that you should get at LEAST 3-4 years out of the device if purchased today.

BTW, congrats on your Blues for winning the whole thing, you guys really took it to my Sharks :/

Anyway hope that helps!
 
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rui no onna

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My general rule of thumb is that an iPad will run exceptionally well within 3 OS releases from the original shipping OS. The 2 OS releases after the first 3 run stable with some missing features and slight slow down, from there the device will show its age and generally be obsolete in 6-7 OS releases. So I would suggest that you should get at LEAST 3-4 years out of the device if purchased today.
That's really only been true for Air 2. The Air 2 was the turning point for longevity. Newer iPads, that really depends on how iPadOS advances in future. However, if the past 5 years are any indication, then they're on their way to doing better in terms of longevity.

Still, I wouldn't worry about the Pro 10.5 at all for the next 2 years (unless you're doing super heavy media editing/creation or high-end gaming). I'm running the public beta on my 2017 Pro 12.9 (A10X/4GB same as Pro 10.5) and it feels just as fast as iOS 12 so the next year is pretty much guaranteed good performance.

Personally, I just bought a used 512GB LTE Pro 10.5 with leather sleeve, ASK and Pencil for $650 this year. That should tide me over until 1TB LTE drops to a price I deem more reasonable.
 

Shanghaichica

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I have a 10.5 inch pro which is a week or 2 shy of 2 years and it’s running as well as it did the day I bought it. I have no complaints and see no reason to upgrade it.
 
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Herrpod

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Given the flashlighting issue, I’d never touch a 10.5 Pro. Especially not a used one.
 

Herrpod

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Don’t have any white spots on my 10.5 inch pro. It’s 24 months old now.
That's good, but the issue, much like the keyboard issue on MacBook Pros, is very real. I've never once seen an in-store unit that didn't exhibit the issue.
 

Digitalguy

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That's really only been true for Air 2. The Air 2 was the turning point for longevity. Newer iPads, that really depends on how iPadOS advances in future. However, if the past 5 years are any indication, then they're on their way to doing better in terms of longevity.

Still, I wouldn't worry about the Pro 10.5 at all for the next 2 years (unless you're doing super heavy media editing/creation or high-end gaming). I'm running the public beta on my 2017 Pro 12.9 (A10X/4GB same as Pro 10.5) and it feels just as fast as iOS 12 so the next year is pretty much guaranteed good performance.

Personally, I just bought a used 512GB LTE Pro 10.5 with leather sleeve, ASK and Pencil for $650 this year. That should tide me over until 1TB LTE drops to a price I deem more reasonable.
exactly, and my guess is it's due to it being to first to have 2GB RAM which even in IpadOS doesn't create any slowdown (more refreshes however, but that's a completely different thing)
not only there has been no slowdown since IOS 9 but IOS 12 / 13 are actually faster than IOS 9 /10
 

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I bought a slightly used 10.5 64gb cellular and love that thing. I come from the iPad Mini 2 so it’s really mind—blowing and while I am adjusting to the weight I have to say the 10.5 pro is fast. I tried the PUBG game on max Settings and no stutter at all (but it’s getting really hot). So I think the cpu and gpu are still on par even though the A10X is 2 years old. It’s main field for application will be traveling (Note taking, Maps, Apple Music, Netflix). So I guess I’m at least fine until the Apple gets the bending issue resolved if it is not for the next iteration.
 

JMountainDew

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I have a 10.5 inch pro which is a week or 2 shy of 2 years and it’s running as well as it did the day I bought it. I have no complaints and see no reason to upgrade it.
I, too, have had nothing but great performance on my 10.5 Pro since its release, and with a Khomo backcase and the ASK, it has replaced my 2015 MBP as a more portable daily work device (most days, anyway). The newer 11's certainly have their appeal (being shiny and new, you know), but as long as my 10.5 remains so reliable, why switch yet?
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I’d say don’t trust a refurb unless it’s coming directly from Apple.
Fully agree.
 

Sunshoopa

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Great device. The devices speed is perfect, no slowdown at all. iOS 13 just makes everything better too.

Only complaint I have is I wish I would have chosen the 256 GB instead of the 64 GB. I was thinking about selling this one later on and picking up a 256 GB on the cheap, although since my screen is 100% perfect (since I got it replaced by apple last year) so I’m kinda scared of that.
 

pika2000

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Amazon has them for $369 as a refurb. Think its a worthwhile buy at that price? I've been looking at getting an iPad for awhile now, but have been holding off. I really like the pro-motion screen, but don't want to have it be slow as molasses in a year or two after another 1 or 2 iPad OS updates.
Never buy a refurb outside Apple’s official site.

The 10.5” iPP itself is a great device. I have one, and I don’t feel it any slower, even with iOS 11. iOS 12 is great, and I can’t wait for iOS 13.
 
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