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I’m surprised that there is no Blu_ray, especially since Toast just added their Blu-Ray plugin.

Shame since Blu-ray looks way better

I cannot believe people are still complaining about Blu-ray. It's not as simple as adding a $500 Blu-ray optical burner.

1.)The monitor has to be HDCP capable, which ACD line does not have yet.
2.)The GFX card has to be able to encode/decode HD videos, which Mac Pro, iMac and Macbook Pro have, but Macbook and Mac Mini does not have.
3.)The video co-processor found in the GPUs of HD content decode/encode enabled desktops/laptops of Apple still do not use this co=processor because Quicktime does not take advantage of this yet.

All these has to be resolved in order for Apple to offer Blu-ray, and even if Apple decides to offer it, Mac Pro would be the first computer to get it.

So please stop whining like 3 year olds, like someone told you that you cannot eat your ice cream before dinner.
 
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This is a bit surprising. I felt like the difference would be a little bit better.
 
Not really surprising.
It's all about the GPU that mad this iMac a sweet deal as all other numbers should be almost same.
I would say if you don't need a fast GPU just buy a last gen as it can save you quite nice $$ and you won't even notice the difference.
 
It's sufficient enough for me to upgrade from my AMD X2 4400+ system. I just hope I don't have any monitor problems like the forums have been going on about apparently. :p

Really, the video card is what did it for me.

Where did you get a Mac with AMD X2 4400+ system? I love AMD and from what I have read they don't currently offer a Mac with AMD.
 
Of course they could be using the wrong kind of benchmark for this.

For memory- and IO-intensive applications, I would expect the margins to be far better.

But if the benchmark they ran tests pure CPU operations/second, with most data living in the L2 cache, I would only expect there to be only a token difference.

/dale
 
Bottom line is this is a fill-in deployment in anticipation of a full chipset update next revision.

Nice computer, same price, incrementally faster than the last one. A good buy, but not suitable for an upgrade unless you are 3+ updates behind.

OLED iMac in 2009?

Rocketman

Maybe late 2009 if we are lucky.
 
What is the time frame for the 4 core iMac to be out? Xmas 2008?

The QX9300 mobile quad-core is do out next month as part of a broader mobile CPU roll-out to support the launch of the Montevina platform. The Mac Rumors Guide says it likely will not work on Santa Rosa, but perhaps the "Santa Rosa Specials" being used in the new iMacs have been modfied to accept it as it is said to be a Socket P CPU...

However, it's going to be close to $1000 so expect the top iMac with it to be pushing $2499 or more...
 
We need comparisons for the layman like:

How long each one takes to rip an episode of Arrested Development on Handbreak.

Important things like that would really help for me to make a decision between an older 2.4 and the new 2.8
 
Makes me glad I ordered the 2.8 refurb and saved a bunch of money. If the old 2.8 is almost as fast as the new 3.0. I wonder how it stacks up to the current 2.8, considering the old is a "extreme" and the new one isn't.
 
Yeah, what do they expect from the BMW of computers... something better? :rolleyes:

Why would you call Apple a BMW of computers? They were never superior to hi end PC systems it's just their design that somehow is more stylish.
And if you're that far into comparisons then please take a step back and read what happened to the 7 series when they added the iDrive system and how many trouble it has caused for them.
Innovation has it's costs. Some learn to deal with them and some don't.
We will see what happens in Apple's case. ;)

People are not dumb and can count $$ so why do they switch to a generally worse setup while paying more $$?
Again. All about operating system, it's ease of use and lack of necessary 'maintenance' that is quite often a case in Win based systems.
A price all are willing to pay for a simple peace of mind. :D
I did and i'm happy :)

While I am writing this my iMac is into 28th hour of rendering using Vue 6 with about 40 hours to go. Right now I listen music using iTunes, run Safari, Mail is open and you know what?? I know I won't overload it to the point in which will freeze and crash. And that's why I choose Mac :)

My only hope is that Apple doesn't take that kind of approach to the point in which their hardware will be super crap. BMW woke up. Your turn Apple :D
 
What do you know-- about a 5-10% improvement generation to generation...


OLED iMac in 2009?
:DYou do this just to spin people up, don't you... Please don't get the kids all worked up just before bed.
And with ATI 4000 series video cards due in a month or so, a two generation old video card.
We're reaching new levels of Mac-bashing here... It's lame because there's going to be a better video card coming out some time?
 
Why would you call Apple a BMW of computers? They were never superior to hi end PC systems it's just their design that somehow is more stylish.
And if you're that far into comparisons then please take a step back and read what happened to the 7 series when they added the iDrive system and how many trouble it has caused for them.
Innovation has it's costs. Some learn to deal with them and some don't.
We will see what happens in Apple's case. ;)

People are not dumb and can count $$ so why do they switch to a generally worse setup while paying more $$?
Again. All about operating system, it's ease of use and lack of necessary 'maintenance' that is quite often a case in Win based systems.
A price all are willing to pay for a simple peace of mind. :D
I did and i'm happy :)

While I am writing this my iMac is into 28th hour of rendering using Vue 6 with about 40 hours to go. Right now I listen music using iTunes, run Safari, Mail is open and you know what?? I know I won't overload it to the point in which will freeze and crash. And that's why I choose Mac :)

My only hope is that Apple doesn't take that kind of approach to the point in which their hardware will be super crap. BMW woke up. Your turn Apple :D


I'm going to have to disagree a bit with this comment.

I run a Velocity Micro system along with my 24" iMac and based on hardware/cost my Velocity blows away the iMac.

Right now I am running Vista which is a hog itself, running CS3, iTunes, I have Word and Excel going and about ten browser windows open and my system is barely breaking a sweat at 14% cpu and 38% memory used.

I would say both Vista and Leopard suck equally, for different reasons, no way can I say Leopard is bug free by any stretch and that is after several major fixes.

As far as continuous 'maintenance' at least if MS screws up all I have to do is a quick restore to revert not an entire archive and install to back out all the crap Apple has been putting out lately, you know the stuff they call "fixes".

I like both systems and I will admit Vista is very bloated but I can't say Leopard to date is all that great either.

Also if you consider market share and the fact that MS has to get Vista to work with far more hardware configurations, I would say they aren't doing all that bad.

Also if you doubt that Apple has issues a simple check of this site will confirm it doesn't just work like your toaster.

http://www.macfixit.com/
 
I think the future is the iMac type of form factor for pros and prosumers. It just needs bigger muscles. Everyone else will be working with a hand held device.
 
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