10gb of RAM? Do we need this?

slitherjef

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Excessive and just because "bigger numbers are better" mentality (or maybe Samsung with bloatwiz).

Otherwise kinda pointless. If you want a device to run faster instead of cramming more ram in it, how's about streamlining your code and or stop bloating it down?

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co.ag.2005

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I'm curious, as of today, how does the "law of diminishing returns" play into this? given the current demands of our apps, photos, videos, etc. what amount of RAM is perfectly usable and where does it begin to start increasing power draw on the battery to the point where we get back to sub-day battery life (negative gains on battery for positive gains in RAM)? I imagine 10 GB right now is at that point where it's likely consuming more power than it's needed to make the phone work or operate better, but maybe it's power draw is similar to 6 or 8, not sure. I don't know the magic number and future device uses like AR, VR, etc. will benefit from more RAM... but for 2018 and these phones lasting into 2019 and 2020, is 6 enough? is 8 enough? I tend to be in the "moar is better" camp on some things but with RAM and other phone specs, it may not always be the case.... just food for thought. I don't have the "correct" answer :) :p
 

nordique

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That's way overkill for a smartphone. Yeesh.

People are on some "I edit 4k movies on my smart phone while editing my HDR pics all the while playing 3 different graphically intensive games, downloading 20 Apps and shooting a video ... all at the same time"

No, we don't need it at all
 

NT1440

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If we’re going to stray into the Land of cellphones having better specs than most laptops being sold (the majority of laptops sold are the cheap ones)...are we finally going to put to bed the silly notion of “these phones cost more than a laptop!”? We’re all walking around with supercomputers in our pockets, it’s about time we recognize that this class of device can no longer be viewed as “lesser than” computers, but instead a different kind of computer with different use cases.
 

tbayrgs

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Yes we need it.
Not because we actually need it but because if we settle for a limit, then we are limited.
Keep pushing the boundaries.
For the price people are paying for these devices, there should me more of everything inside them.
While more is often better, I tend to agree with the following sentiment in regards to RAM and smartphones.

Excessive and just because "bigger numbers are better" mentality (or maybe Samsung with bloatwiz).

Otherwise kinda pointless. If you want a device to run faster instead of cramming more ram in it, how's about streamlining your code and or stop bloating it down?

:confused:
It’s the easy way out for OEMs. Instead of fine tuning your software and optimizing, just throw more RAM inside to deal with the existing inefficiencies. Doesn’t truly fix anything. And in most cases, this is just one OEM having bragging rights to say they had it first, regardless if it actually makes sense and adds value.
 

Ralfi

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It's one thing to say you'd want it, but if your current day phone needs 10GB of RAM, then its RAM management needs a bit of work.

6-8GB at most I'd think would suffice for most phones.
 
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Tsepz

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Excessive and just because "bigger numbers are better" mentality (or maybe Samsung with bloatwiz).

Otherwise kinda pointless. If you want a device to run faster instead of cramming more ram in it, how's about streamlining your code and or stop bloating it down?

:confused:
I remember comments like this back when 1GB RAM was seen as unnecessary
 
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Tsepz

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I'm curious, as of today, how does the "law of diminishing returns" play into this? given the current demands of our apps, photos, videos, etc. what amount of RAM is perfectly usable and where does it begin to start increasing power draw on the battery to the point where we get back to sub-day battery life (negative gains on battery for positive gains in RAM)? I imagine 10 GB right now is at that point where it's likely consuming more power than it's needed to make the phone work or operate better, but maybe it's power draw is similar to 6 or 8, not sure. I don't know the magic number and future device uses like AR, VR, etc. will benefit from more RAM... but for 2018 and these phones lasting into 2019 and 2020, is 6 enough? is 8 enough? I tend to be in the "moar is better" camp on some things but with RAM and other phone specs, it may not always be the case.... just food for thought. I don't have the "correct" answer :) :p
Considering how AI, VR and AR are becoming more and more advanced in our phones, as well as features like Super Slow-motion video recording etc etc... I would say 10GB RAM could very well be where we will be in the next 18months or so.
 
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