10GbE NIC for Mac OS X?

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  1. evilzardoz macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    Looking for a PCI-Express 10GbE NIC to suit a thunderbolt enclosure for a Retina MacBook Pro. I've currently got a few Intel X520 NICs which I picked up for ~200 on the eBay that work an absolute treat under Windows but no love under OSX due to drivers.

    Of course, Small Tree will charge me, what, five times that price for the same card with their drivers? Errr, nope.

    Are there any 10GbE NICs (third party, whatever) with drivers that have been written for OSX?
     
  2. brand macrumors 601

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    You won't like this answer but it does answer your question for any 10Gb Ethernet cards including third party.

    Small Tree 10Gb Ethernet Cards
     
  3. echoout macrumors 6502a

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    I've been using an ATTO NT11 in my Magma TB enclosure for a year. It's crazy fast with my QNAP server. I can edit right off of it.
     
  4. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    Well if it doesn't work then it is really the drivers that is the primary price difference.


    Seems like this is really about trying find some else's drivers to snag off the web since you already have the cards. In terms of other vendors though.....

    Besides Small Tree ... a couple

    Another response already mentioned ATTO. (similar price range as Small Tree though)


    http://www.attotech.com/products/family.php?id=14

    Sonnet ( note card is without transceiver. )


    http://www.sonnettech.com/product/presto10gbe.html


    Myricom

    https://www.myricom.com/support/downloads/myri10ge.html


    Solarflare
    http://www.solarflare.com/04-12-12-...ideo-Editing-File-Transfer-Performance-Record


    None of these are in the "bargain discount" range.

    I think Windows hits because Microsoft and Intel team up to get a basic driver bundled with Windows. Not sure why Apple snores on getting this weaved into the core OS. Especially with their "bulk storage is external" stance.
     
  5. ianj1972 macrumors member

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    not a lot of info on 10gbe under OSX - has anyone tested any of these cards and have comparative data results etc? Small Tree wins on confidence due to being based on Intel hardware, but Myricom is available at a fraction of the price though various deals etc
     
  6. echoout macrumors 6502a

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    ATTO also uses Intel chipset. I have 2, and they have floated between my Magma enclosure, 2 4,1 MacPros and my z820 without issue. Super fast.
     
  7. ianj1972 macrumors member

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    Thanks. I've got a small tree card inbound. What sort of speeds do you see in your mac and magma enclosure?
     
  8. mijail macrumors 6502

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    Sorry to necro this thread, but it's one of the few interesting results when searching for "mac 10GbE".

    Has anyone actually checked to what point does macOS take advantage of the 10GbE speeds? Linux and FreeBSD do need extra help, particularly when it comes to dealing with small packets (64 bytes), and so there's the likes of kernel bypass solutions like DPDK and Netmap. But those aren't available for macOS, so I wonder.

    Of course, given that macOS is probably not expected to be found in a server, it doesn't really need to worry about this kind of traffic; it surely cares much more about big packets, with which it's much easier to reach wire speeds. But still, there's 40GbE, and 100GbE, which also get more demanding...
     
  9. Squuiid, Jul 14, 2017
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    Squuiid macrumors 6502a

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    It's ok but definitely not optimised. SMB signing for example decimates SMB performance. Its must be turned off to fully utilise the bandwidth.
    Performance over AFP is actually excellent however.

    See my post here for a bit more detail:
    https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-nics-to-use-small-tree-os-x-drivers.1968456/
     
  10. Draeconis macrumors 6502a

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    Since the iMac Pro will come with 10GbE, could be interesting to test the same chip with older Macs once this is released.
     
  11. ShawnF, Jul 14, 2017
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    Two here based on the Tehuti chipset which are more affordable and they come in 10gb Base T. Compatibility from Mavericks upwards and comes with official drivers.

    Startech ST10GSPEXNB

    Akitio NBASETNC-A01

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Kris Kelvin macrumors member

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    Another one for the list, altough expensive: Chelsio provides macOS drivers for some of their cards, including the T520-CR (2 x 10Gbit SFP+) and T580-CR (2 x 40GBit QSFP). Very fast, reliable and compatible with Thunderbolt enclosures.
     
  13. ShawnF macrumors regular

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    Just got my Startech 10Gbe NIC today. Installed on my Mac Pro 5.1 (Flashed from 4.1) running Yosemite.

    There was an initial problem where OSX detected the card but refused to let the card connect to my switch. I did a PRAM and SMC reset and it worked fine after that. Planning to connect this directly to the 10gbe port of my QNAP TVS-471 and offload all my FCPX RAW footage and RAW photos on my Mac Pro to the SSD in the QNAP. That will save tons of space for my VMs.
     
  14. ShawnF macrumors regular

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    Asus just released at 10Gbe Base-T adapter for just US$99 based on Aquantia chipset.

     
  15. pierrox macrumors member

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    Nice find!
    How about OS X drivers?
     
  16. AidenShaw macrumors P6

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    Beware of cheap NICs....

    Cheap NICs often leave out the offload engines, so that they can use a lot of CPU when in heavy use.

    More expensive "server" NICs have onboard processing to handle checksumming and other parts of the network protocol stack - so the server NICs will need much less CPU to process a given bandwidth load.

    I'm not saying that cheap NICs are bad, just to be aware that all NICs aren't the same - and the more expensive ones often use much less CPU for a given network load.
     
  17. ShawnF macrumors regular

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    Couldn't find any drivers for OSX. Also, Aiden makes a good point about the cheaper NICs versus more expensive server grade NICs.
     
  18. Squuiid, Aug 6, 2017
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    Squuiid macrumors 6502a

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    Agreed. You are much better off buying an Intel X540-T1 and flashing it to use macOS Small Tree drivers.
    https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-nics-to-use-small-tree-os-x-drivers.1968456/

    Small Tree are Intel's official NIC reseller for Mac.
     
  19. Auggie macrumors regular

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    Apologize for high jacking thread, but for the typical whole-house cat5e network setup, there really isn't a 10G-Base-T option is there? At least, that's what I gleaned from the GadgetBlues video review posted earlier...
     
  20. pastrychef macrumors 601

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