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I upgraded my 7+ yesterday to 11.2 and the difference in speed compared to 11.1.2 is noticeable. Switching apps, 3D Touch actions, Home screen are all much faster than 11.1.2. Battery seems to be better too (need a few days to verify).

I know plenty of people have had issues with 11.x but for me I haven't had many issues, even in the Betas.
 

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I upgraded my 7+ yesterday to 11.2 and the difference in speed compared to 11.1.2 is noticeable. Switching apps, 3D Touch actions, Home screen are all much faster than 11.1.2. Battery seems to be better too (need a few days to verify).

I know plenty of people have had issues with 11.x but for me I haven't had many issues, even in the Betas.

I thought same thing at first, give it time. It really isn't fast. Clear all running apps from memory and check how fast stuff loads from scratch. 3-5 seconds? Is that fast? My 8 year old hard drive in my desktop seems to load "apps" faster. Shouldn't stuff on iOS load as fast as SSD?
 
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I thought same thing at first, give it time. It really isn't fast. Clear all running apps from memory and check how fast stuff loads from scratch. 3-5 seconds? Is that fast? My 8 year old hard drive in my desktop seems to load "apps" faster. Shouldn't stuff on iOS load as fast as SSD?
Don’t know what 3-5 seconds means. My 5s loads apps almost instantly on 11.2.
 

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I thought same thing at first, give it time. It really isn't fast. Clear all running apps from memory and check how fast stuff loads from scratch. 3-5 seconds? Is that fast? My 8 year old hard drive in my desktop seems to load "apps" faster. Shouldn't stuff on iOS load as fast as SSD?

Apps open almost immediately for me. And apps that load a little day a second at most. My tests was from unloading everything and opening back up as well as just overall usage through the day. I have about 20 apps open in my app switcher and there is NO lag when opening the switcher and swiping through. Must faster and smoother than 11.1.2
 
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Don’t know what 3-5 seconds means. My 5s loads apps almost instantly on 11.2.

Since you said your 5S loads apps 'almost instantly', can you perhaps share a screen recording of the performance of your 5S? Would like to compare the difference with my 5S.
 

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Since you said your 5S loads apps 'almost instantly', can you perhaps share a screen recording of the performance of your 5S? Would like to compare the difference with my 5S.
i7guy has zero problems with any iOS update so I wouldn't bother honestly. I can understand how much a "speed demon" the 5s is looking at my 6. Horrible experience on iOS 11.
 

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i7guy has zero problems with any iOS update so I wouldn't bother honestly. I can understand how much a "speed demon" the 5s is looking at my 6. Horrible experience on iOS 11.
Differentiated from “this iOS update ruined my phone because of a bug fix for a few-millisecond homebutton delay”?
 
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Differentiated from “this iOS update ruined my phone because of a bug fix for a few-millisecond homebutton delay”?
There is no question of home button delay with the it because the 6 has far greater problems. Facebook,Uber, Twitter all take ages and ages to load. It's like I am using a laptop from 2009 which has been used by my mom.
 

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Sure, but I would like to see a screen share of your phone taking 5 seconds to load an app.

Wow, shifting the burden of proof fallacy here.

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, which is you.

I'm just asking a simple question here. If you can't back up your claim with an appropriate video/screen recording, then the earlier point you made about 'apps opening almost instantly (less than 3 seconds) on an iPhone 5S on 11.2' is moot.
 

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Yes, I also do feel that my 7+ is faster and smoother with 11.2.

However, also need couple of days more to verify about battery life.
 

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Wow, shifting the burden of proof fallacy here.

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, which is you.

I'm just asking a simple question here. If you can't back up your claim with an appropriate video/screen recording, then the earlier point you made about 'apps opening almost instantly (less than 3 seconds) on an iPhone 5S on 11.2' is moot.
Realistically the claim about the delay was made first, seems like having proof of it would be fairly rational if we are going down the path of questioning what people say.
 
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Realistically the claim about the delay was made first, seems like having proof of it would be fairly rational if we are going down the path of questioning what people say.
The proof has been posted multiple times about the slowdown in the form of videos. . What has not been posted iare videos from the opposing side validating their own claim.
 

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There is no question of home button delay with the it because the 6 has far greater problems. Facebook,Uber, Twitter all take ages and ages to load. It's like I am using a laptop from 2009 which has been used by my mom.
It's interesting how one device is being used to say something about another device that is of a different model simply based on conjecture and implied connection.
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The proof has been posted multiple times about the slowdown in the form of videos. . What has not been posted iare videos from the opposing side validating their own claim.
Link to any of those in relation to 5s (on iOS 11.2)?
 

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It's interesting how one device is being used to say something about another device that is of a different model simply based on conjecture and implied connection.

If the 6 was crushed by iOS 11 so will the 5s. Even if it has a smaller screen, the processor is still slightly weaker. For instance if the iPhone X slows down that automatically means all iPhone screens below it will as well.

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Link to any of those in relation to 5s (on iOS 11.2)?


Conclusion from the tester.

So no surprise here. Although iOS 11.2 boots faster it has not caught up to the boot speed of iOS 10.3.3. All benchmark tests are in favour of iOS 10.3.3. So if speed is important to you, do not upgrade. But it is a tough call for sure. If you are on 5s or 6 you should think twice before upgrading.
 
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Wow, shifting the burden of proof fallacy here.

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, which is you.

I'm just asking a simple question here. If you can't back up your claim with an appropriate video/screen recording, then the earlier point you made about 'apps opening almost instantly (less than 3 seconds) on an iPhone 5S on 11.2' is moot.
I wonder why you wouldn’t satisfy a simple request instead come back some hyperbole about burden of proof. If you can’t back up your claim about apps opening in 5 seconds your comments are moot. See how that works.:)
 

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If the 6 was crushed by iOS 11 so will the 5s. Even if it has a smaller screen, the processor is still slightly weaker. For instance if the iPhone X slows down that automatically means all iPhone screens below it will as well.




Conclusion from the tester.

So no surprise here. Although iOS 11.2 boots faster it has not caught up to the boot speed of iOS 10.3.3. All benchmark tests are in favour of iOS 10.3.3. So if speed is important to you, do not upgrade. But it is a tough call for sure. If you are on 5s or 6 you should think twice before upgrading.
What part shows the 5 second app opening delays that are significantly different than iOS 10?

(Did that absolute "all" need to be bold to highlight that absolutes often enough don't hold up given that not everything had 10.3.3 being faster/better?)
 

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If the 6 was crushed by iOS 11 so will the 5s. Even if it has a smaller screen, the processor is still slightly weaker. For instance if the iPhone X slows down that automatically means all iPhone screens below it will as well.




Conclusion from the tester.

So no surprise here. Although iOS 11.2 boots faster it has not caught up to the boot speed of iOS 10.3.3. All benchmark tests are in favour of iOS 10.3.3. So if speed is important to you, do not upgrade. But it is a tough call for sure. If you are on 5s or 6 you should think twice before upgrading.
Boot speed as a metric of speed is as useful as the number of lug nuts on a tire.

Doesn’t seem that iOS 11 is any slower from that video than iOS 10. And in scrolling cases beats the pants off of iOS 10, which means one can get work done faster.
 

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What part shows the 5 second app opening delays that are significantly different than iOS 10?

(Did that absolute "all" need to be bold to highlight that absolutes often enough don't hold up given that not everything had 10.3.3 being faster/better?)
Where did 5 seconds Come from? People here were stating 5s opens apps instantly or near instant. The above video proves that's not the case. Basic apps like Instagram and Facebook took 4-5 seconds to load. The phone was already slow on iOS 10. iOS 11 added another 3 seconds to a painful loading process of so many apps. Apple's making sure the 5s is crippled beyond repair before they are done with it and discontinue it.

In all isnatnces the iOS 10 phone was faster.
 
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Where did 5 seconds Come from?
Reading the context of the discussion about this in this thread would help.
Basic apps like Instagram and Facebook took 4-5 seconds to load. The phone was already slow on iOS 10. iOS 11 added another 3 seconds to a painful loading process of so many apps. Apple's making sure the 5s is crippled beyond repair before they are done with it and discontinue it.
Seems like the additional time in most cases is more in the range of a fraction of a second to a second or two. Not an improvement certainly, but we are also talking about a device that is 4 years old. If that is crippled beyond repair, what would a device be that essentially doesn't respond to input at all or every input actually takes 20 seconds to respond then?
In all isnatnces the iOS 10 phone was faster.
Seems like benchmarking app didn't load faster in iOS 10, for example.
 
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Where did 5 seconds Come from? People here were stating 5s opens apps instantly or near instant. The above video proves that's not the case. Basic apps like Instagram and Facebook took 4-5 seconds to load. The phone was already slow on iOS 10. iOS 11 added another 3 seconds to a painful loading process of so many apps. Apple's making sure the 5s is crippled beyond repair before they are done with it and discontinue it.

In all isnatnces the iOS 10 phone was faster.
Did anyone scroll a long page in Safari. You can get "your life" back in getting to the bottom of one page.
 

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If the 6 was crushed by iOS 11 so will the 5s. Even if it has a smaller screen, the processor is still slightly weaker. For instance if the iPhone X slows down that automatically means all iPhone screens below it will as well.




Conclusion from the tester.

So no surprise here. Although iOS 11.2 boots faster it has not caught up to the boot speed of iOS 10.3.3. All benchmark tests are in favour of iOS 10.3.3. So if speed is important to you, do not upgrade. But it is a tough call for sure. If you are on 5s or 6 you should think twice before upgrading.

Honestly, this video does nothing to convince me that 11 is worse than 10. I can see why somebody who is a little ocd might care but there weren't any major delays in that video. It certainly didn't "crush" the 5s. You really need to let this go dude, if not for your own mental health then do it for the rest of us who are tired of hearing the same old thing over, and over, and over.
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Did anyone scroll a long page in Safari. You can get "your life" back in getting to the bottom of one page.

Can you give an example, and with what device? IMO one of the best improvements in 11 is scrolling speed.

Battery life on 11.2 seems to be back to where it was on 10.3. iPhone 7 4.7”.

I agree, my 7+ definitely doesn't seem to have lost anything from 10.
 
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