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11 or 11 pro

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Ohayo

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Can anyone advise me if the extra $ on 11 pro is worth? Dont flame me pls
 

Devyn89

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Worth is subjective, you really have to decide for yourself. The way I see it there’s two main advantages to the pro line, display and camera. That OLED is real nice. I was thinking of upgrading to the 11 from the XS but when I thought about losing that OLED I decided against it so if I upgrade this year it’ll be to one of the pros. That being said I can afford to do it in ways I’m comfortable with, I also know and am ok with spending an extra $400 (Canadian pricing on the 11 pro is $1379 and $1529 for the max vs. $979 for the 11) for that screen with the added benefit of that telephoto lens.
 
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Northern Man

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Depends upon your needs and likes / dislikes of course. I don't like big phones so would get the Pro due to its smaller size. Quite an increase in price to do this but it also comes with the better camera so makes it a bit easier to justify.
 

someuser99

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A bit torn here.. 11 Pro certainly has a better display, but as I understand it the cameras are exactly the same, the Pro just has another lens for long distance.. or am i missing something here? quite a stretch for $400 imho

Edit: Night mode seems the main camera feature and is on both
 
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petvas

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Can anyone advise me if the extra $ on 11 pro is worth? Dont flame me pls
It depends on what you want and expect from a phone. The Pro is definitely better in the following areas:
  • Display resolution
  • Deeper colours and better contrast
  • Camera (although we don't know how big the difference is)
  • Probably more RAM (meaning more apps can stay open at the same time->less refresh)

The Pro has also a smaller display size, which can be seen as an advantage or a disadvantage, depending on your preferences.
 

SquidRuby

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Sep 10, 2016
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I went the pro for a couple of reasons.

1. The screen. The 11 would actually be a downgrade display wise from my current X
2. The extra camera is an exciting thing for me.
3. Obviously COMPLETELY objective but I just love the stainless steel frame, I love the look and feel of it, especially in the gold.

I’ve gone to a 2 year cycle (might break it next year depending on what they bring out) so I want something I’m really gonna love. Getting a new phone is a treat for me and if I’m already spending over $1000 (Aus) then I’m gonna spend a bit more and get one I really love without feeling like I’ve made concessions!
 

Ohayo

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Worth is subjective, you really have to decide for yourself. The way I see it there’s two main advantages to the pro line, display and camera. That OLED is real nice. I was thinking of upgrading to the 11 from the XS but when I thought about losing that OLED I decided against it so if I upgrade this year it’ll be to one of the pros. That being said I can afford to do it in ways I’m comfortable with, I also know and am ok with spending an extra $400 (Canadian pricing on the 11 pro is $1379 and $1529 for the max vs. $979 for the 11) for that screen with the added benefit of that telephoto lens.
Yea man its subjective and to each to its own. I did once was using X, tried switching XR, couples of weeks later i sold it off mainly my eyes is pain staring at it.

Could possibt because of the so use to oled? And so I’m afraid of into the situation again if i go for 11
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It depends on what you want and expect from a phone. The Pro is definitely better in the following areas:
  • Display resolution
  • Deeper colours and better contrast
  • Camera (although we don't know how big the difference is)
  • Probably more RAM (meaning more apps can stay open at the same time->less refresh)

The Pro has also a smaller display size, which can be seen as an advantage or a disadvantage, depending on your preferences.
The 5.8 is really good for me. Am 1 handed sometimes. Afraid wouldn’t go more than what my palm can hold
 

maflynn

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the 11 is basically an upgraded XR, that is same display and what not. Where as the "pro" is basically the upgraded Xs. To my point, do you want a higher resolution OLED display, three cameras, etc?
 
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Jim McN

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To my point, do you want a higher resolution OLED display, three cameras, etc?
The « etc. » is actually not so much: side of the OLED screen and telephoto (I would add build quality) they aren’t much more differences.

I had an hard time choosing between the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro and I am not able to justify to myself about this $300 of price difference. Also I can choose the iPhone 11 128gb model which is still staying at a much lower price than the iPhone 11 pro for which I have to choose a 256gb model if I am not happy with 64gb (addition of a $150 vs adding $50 to get the 128gb on iPhone 11 side).

Also if 2020 iPhone is offering that brand new design and new features that are expected then this saving of $300 in 2019 is worthwhile.

Indeed my view is very personal ;-)
 
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1050792

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The 11 is basically the Pro with 1 less camera and OLED screen. Make your opinion based on that. Do you need OLED or LCD?
 
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Ohayo

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The 11 is basically the Pro with 1 less camera and OLED screen. Make your opinion based on that. Do you need OLED or LCD?
Is the LCD same as XR on 11? Cause Xr Lcd is worst for me especially right after coming from oled
 

nortonandreev

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The « etc. » is actually not so much: side of the OLED screen and telephoto (I would add build quality) they aren’t much more differences.

I had an hard time choosing between the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro and I am not able to justify to myself about this $300 of price difference. Also I can choose the iPhone 11 128gb model which is still staying at a much lower price than the iPhone 11 pro for which I have to choose a 256gb model if I am not happy with 64gb (addition of a $150 vs adding $50 to get the 128gb on iPhone 11 side).

Also if 2020 iPhone is offering that brand new design and new features that are expected then this saving of $300 in 2019 is worthwhile.

Indeed my view is very personal ;-)
I’m thinking exactly the same. However, I will be upgrading from Xs Max and I’m bit worried that it will be hard to get used to the smaller and worse screen.
 

EugW

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The 11 is basically the Pro with 1 less camera and OLED screen. Make your opinion based on that. Do you need OLED or LCD?
Incorrect. The 11 is basically the Pro Max with 1 less camera and without OLED screen.

The 11 actually shows the same amount of information as the 11 Pro Max, which means it shows 22% information on-screen than the 11 Pro.
 
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1050792

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Is the LCD same as XR on 11? Cause Xr Lcd is worst for me especially right after coming from oled
Yes the LCD is the same as XR. Same resolution, same color space. No improvements here.
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Incorrect. The 11 is basically the Pro Max with 1 less camera and without OLED screen.

The 11 actually shows 22% information on-screen than the 11 Pro. The 11 shows the same amount of information as the 11 Pro Max.
? That's exactly what I said.
 

EugW

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Yes the LCD is the same as XR. Same resolution, same color space. No improvements here.
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? That's exactly what I said.
No, you said the 11 is basically the Pro, not Pro Max. (Plus you worded the OLED part in a way that some may think you're trying to say 11 is OLED.)
 

EugW

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But they are the same thing except screen size. We are comparing the 11 with the Pro here not the "Max" specifically.
No, it's not just the screen size, but the amount of information displayed on-screen. The 11 and 11 Pro are fundamentally different in this regard. The 11 and Max are equivalent here, and both show 22% more information than the 11 Pro.

For some people, that's a deal killer. I personally wouldn't touch the 11 Pro since the amount of on screen information is too low for that generation of phone.

There is a common myth that the 11 is a cut down 11 Pro. That is incorrect. The 11 is a cut down 11 Pro Max.
 

1050792

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No, it's not just the screen size, but the amount of information displayed on-screen. The 11 and 11 Pro are fundamentally different in this regard. The 11 and Max are equivalent here, and both show 22% more information than the 11 Pro.

For some people, that's a deal killer. I personally wouldn't touch the 11 Pro since the amount of on screen information is too low for that generation of phone.

There is a common myth that the 11 is a cut down 11 Pro. That is incorrect. The 11 is a cut down 11 Pro Max.
Ok... but that's not what the OP is asking. He wants to know if there are significant hardware differences between the 11 and "Pro" phones.
 

EugW

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Ok... but that's not what the OP is asking. He wants to know if there are significant hardware differences between the 11 and "Pro" phones.
Yes and that’s a pretty big difference. The 11 shows 22% more on screen information than the 11 Pro.

Also, the 11 has Zoomed Display mode. The 11 Pro does not.
 
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newellj

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Ok... but that's not what the OP is asking. He wants to know if there are significant hardware differences between the 11 and "Pro" phones.
I think the difference in information displayed on the screen is a big difference. It's the part of the phone that you look at and interact with most.
 

1050792

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I think the difference in information displayed on the screen is a big difference. It's the part of the phone that you look at and interact with most.
Any person with a brain cell can tell the Max is going to display more information on the screen. Again this is not what the OP asked...
 

redheeler

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No, it's not just the screen size, but the amount of information displayed on-screen. The 11 and 11 Pro are fundamentally different in this regard. The 11 and Max are equivalent here, and both show 22% more information than the 11 Pro.

For some people, that's a deal killer. I personally wouldn't touch the 11 Pro since the amount of on screen information is too low for that generation of phone.

There is a common myth that the 11 is a cut down 11 Pro. That is incorrect. The 11 is a cut down 11 Pro Max.
UI elements are the same size, but that doesn't mean you can claim both devices are capable of displaying the same amount of information. The amount of information (detail) displayed in a full-screen photo or video is dependent on the physical screen resolution and PPI, and the 11 is only 2/3 the physical resolution of the Pro Max.
 

EugW

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Any person with a brain cell can tell the Max is going to display more information on the screen. Again this is not what the OP asked...
No the OP asked the difference between the 11 and Pro. You said the 11 is basically a cut down version of the Pro which is incorrect, because the 11 shows 22% more information than the 11 Pro.

IOW, the 11 is in a different, larger screen class than the 11 Pro.


UI elements are the same size, but that doesn't mean you can claim both devices are capable of displaying the same amount of information. The amount of information (detail) displayed in a full-screen photo or video is dependent on the physical screen resolution and PPI, and the 11 is only 2/3 the physical resolution of the Pro Max.
Yes. 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max are higher pixel density although one may argue that in LCD terms the OLEDs are about 373 ppi, not 458, since adjacent pixels share subpixels. Nonetheless, for small font clarity, the 11 Pro and Pro Max are better for some people including myself. For my wife, they’re not.
 
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