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I’ve used a case and screen protector since day one, so zero issues on that front. Cameras look fine, I don’t see any dust. My battery is down to 96% after ~4 months which seems a bit much but then again I also drain and charge almost every day. Worst case I pay $30 or whatever the cost is with AppleCare, but battery life hasn’t changed, it actually got a bit better with 13.2 or 13.3.
 
By the way: How durable is the glass of the lenses? Do they stand the test of time or do we have to keep an eye on were way lay our phones?
 
By the way: How durable is the glass of the lenses? Do they stand the test of time or do we have to keep an eye on were way lay our phones?
Should be harder to scratch than the screen. I’ve never scratched or cracked a lens, but I also wouldn’t be dragging it across tables/desks. My case covers them so they don’t touch a surface though.
 
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Too bad we can't have both: scratch and shatterproof!

Thats the rub. To be scratch resistant it needs to be hard (aka brittle). To be shatter resistant it needs to flexible to a certain degree. The better it gets at one the worse it gets at the other.

Personally mine is currently scratch free (oh boy I'm sure I won't regret saying that).
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By the way: How durable is the glass of the lenses? Do they stand the test of time or do we have to keep an eye on were way lay our phones?

Sapphire crystal lense covers. Typically you would need to intentionally scratch them.
 
Launch day iPhone 11 Pro Max here.

I use a case (cheap Insignia (Best Buy brand) case) on my phone but no screen protector. No visible scratches on the screen even though I don't baby my phone. No issues with the cameras.

Also, unlike my iPhone 7 Plus, the sides and corners of the phone don't have any scratches or discolored spots caused by the case rubbing against them. This was a big complaint of mine with the 7 Plus; the corners had several spots where the finish was damaged within a month of my getting it even though it was in the case the entire time. They've fixed these issues; the stainless steel finish is a lot more durable.

Overall, I have no complaints. This is probably the most trouble-free new iPhone I've ever had.
 
Thats the rub. To be scratch resistant it needs to be hard (aka brittle). To be shatter resistant it needs to flexible to a certain degree. The better it gets at one the worse it gets at the other.

Personally mine is currently scratch free (oh boy I'm sure I won't regret saying that).
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Sapphire crystal lense covers. Typically you would need to intentionally scratch them.
U sure it is still sapphire chrystal? Apple stopped using the term sapphire on its‘ product page.
 
U sure it is still sapphire chrystal? Apple stopped using the term sapphire on its‘ product page.

Apple doesn’t need to confirm if it’s sapphire, only because it such a minuscule feature, no one/average consumers don’t ask these types of questions.

However....

When the iPhone 7 released, there was speculation that the back cover glass for the camera lens wasn’t using Sapphire due to ‘scratching’ and Phil Schiller quickly responded by stating in fact, it does use a sapphire coating over the lens cover.

 
Apple doesn’t need to confirm if it’s sapphire, only because it such a minuscule feature, no one/average consumers don’t ask these types of questions.

However....

When the iPhone 7 released, there was speculation that the back cover glass for the camera lens wasn’t using Sapphire due to ‘scratching’ and Phil Schiller quickly responded by stating in fact, it does use a sapphire coating over the lens cover.

No one asking this question? Hmmm I found quite a lot "no ones" on the web. When I buy an expensive watch, I want to know what the crystal is made of...same with my phone. But it doesn't seem to be pure spapphire since Jerryrigyouknowwho's scratch tests harm it at level 6 or 7. Sapphire is a 9 on the hardness scale.
 
No one asking this question? Hmmm I found quite a lot "no ones" on the web..

I literally just said in my post, average consumers don’t ask what the camera lens covers made of. Again, they don’t ask this, which is why Apple doesn’t discuss it, because it’s not pertinent. It’s kind of like why they don’t discuss Ram during keynotes, because consumers don’t care about ram.

Oh, and you also said that there were ‘a lot of rumors’ about the iPhone having scratch/dust issues in the beginning of the thread, which also was in inaccurate. And then when I asked for a source, you googled a random Forbes article, which is a complete garbage website and not a source at all.
 
I literally just said in my post, average consumers don’t ask what the camera lens covers made of. Again, they don’t ask this, which is why Apple doesn’t discuss it, because it’s not pertinent. It’s kind of like why they don’t discuss Ram during keynotes, because consumers don’t care about ram.

Oh, and you also said that there were ‘a lot of rumors’ about the iPhone having scratch/dust issues in the beginning of the thread, which also was in inaccurate. And then when I asked for a source, you googled a random Forbes article, which is a complete garbage website and not a source at all.
Of course it is a source. The fact that you (and I) don’t like it doesn’t give them the no source status. Plus: There is a big thread on this forum by people who complain about scratched displays. And may I draw your attention to Apple‘s support forum with a ton of complaints. Just two examples. Not accurate? I am not saying that there is such a thing as a „scratch gate“ but you can’t deny that people are discussing this.
 
Of course it is a source.

I think you’ve made some poor arguments that are not backed up at all, and when your questioned about it, you pulled some random bogus ‘source’ from Forbes, which you googled. Oh, and if Forbes is such a source as you’re indicating they are, none of these credible tech websites use Forbes, because they regurgitate bad information and misconstrue topics to draw click bait.

No one is denying that an iPhone can’t scratch or dust is not a side effect behind the camera lens cover, but if you re-read your opening post, its very generic when you said ‘A lot’ of people. Then you were questioned about what’s considered ‘a lot of people’, which you resulted in using Forbes, that hurts your credibility in your post.
 
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That’s why I used the term source and not credible source. There is a big difference. And I think dozens if not hundreds of posts by users qualify as „a lot of“.
 
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