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While I could appreciate a bezel free design. I just don't think the 12.9'' model is need of an upgrade right now. I am still more than content with my LTE 128GB 12.9'' The features that we would love to see, such as a possible mouse or compatible track pad, an actual file system, and more of a closer operating system to what Mac OS provides won't happen anytime soon, if at all. To me, and I'm sure a lot of others is what the 12.9'' model really needs to be considered a "Pro" model. However, don't get me wrong, I fell in love with mine as soon as I purchased it. I even at times found myself using it more than my MBP. It is a wonderful device for what it is.. I just don't consider it to be a "Pro" device or a laptop replacement like Apple would have us to believe. It could get there someday, as long as Apple is willing to fully commit to it, and I guess that could go either way. I'll take a close look at it when they announce it. I just don't really see the need to upgrade such an already powerful device unless Apple is to make some huge changes to it.
 
Keeps saying this even as iPad sales keep plummeting. At what point does reality hit him that the iPad's OS needs to be more robust than that of a phone if the general public is going to think of it as a viable laptop equivalent?

Yes, we need an iOSX
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I'm wondering how they are gonna name the new iPads to charge even more. iPad Pro Edition? iPad Pro SE?

iPad Pro Plu$ (as they are charging more)

Note: The $ is silent!
 
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Love my 9.7" iPad Pro but it's been a year and I'm still waiting on all these "pro" apps. I can't fault the hardware; it's the software that needs improving. Not sure what they could do hardware-wise to make me upgrade. Reduced bezels are nice, 3D Touch is meh. Maybe wireless pairing and charging for the Apple Pencil. I suspect it will have the same haptic home button as the iPhone 7. Will probably be an incremental upgrade. I'm holding out for 2018 - the year of OLED!!




Just weeks before Apple is rumored to launch a trio of new iPads, 12.9-inch iPad Pro stock is drying up around the world.

A spot check of Apple's online store reveals that most if not all 12.9-inch iPad Pro models are now estimated to ship in 2-3 weeks in the United States, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, United Kingdom, and elsewhere--that's up from a shipping estimate of 1-2 weeks as recently as last weekend.

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Apple's in-store pickup tool lists most 12.9-inch iPad Pro models as available on March 3 to March 6 in locations ranging from New York and San Francisco to Toronto, Canada and London, England. Some models remain available for pickup as early as "today," but stock has increasingly depleted based upon our checks.

12.9-inch iPad Pro models are also largely out of stock or backordered by several weeks at resellers such as Best Buy, AT&T, and Verizon in the United States. That's in sharp contrast to the 9.7-inch iPad Pro, which remains well stocked and available to ship immediately on both Apple's website and at resellers.

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Lengthy shipping times can sometimes indicate that a product refresh is imminent, but in this case, the supply chain could be to blame.

In its latest earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook said the company underestimated iPad demand this quarter and had an issue with one of its suppliers. Cook said he does not expect the shortage to be totally resolved this quarter, and that could reasonably explain why the 12.9-inch iPad Pro is increasingly hard to find.

Apple analyst Neil Cybart of Above Avalon said Apple has been experiencing "increasingly noticeable supply chain troubles," as evidenced by long shipping estimates on products that launched months ago, such as Apple Watch Series 2 and AirPods. With a 2-3 week wait, the 12.9-inch iPad Pro can be added to that list.

Rumors suggest Apple will launch an all-new 10.5-inch iPad Pro with slimmer bezels as early as March--or as late as the second half of this year per hit-and-miss supply chain source DigiTimes. Apple is also expected to release updated 9.7-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models with faster A10X processors.

Japanese blog Mac Otakara said the next-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro will feature a True Tone display like its current 9.7-inch counterpart, using advanced four-channel ambient light sensors to automatically adapt the color and intensity of the display to match the light in the surrounding environment.

The new 12.9-inch iPad Pro will also gain the 9.7-inch iPad Pro's same 12-megapixel rear-facing iSight camera and True Tone flash, and it will allegedly still have a 3.5mm headphone jack, according to the blog.

"We've got some exciting things coming on iPad and I'm optimistic about where things are headed," Cook said last week.

Article Link: 12.9-Inch iPad Pro in Short Supply Ahead of Rumored March Update
 
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All I want is that 10.5" iPad in the 9.7" frame size with a USB-C port and added support for USB peripherals on iOS. The fact that I need three different card readers between an iMac, MBP and iPad is just sad (Or one card reader and two adapters, still 3 peripherals total.)
 
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I have been wanting an iPad with pencil support to replace an older iPad. The question will be either the new 10" one or the 12" one.
With the pencil and it's ability for higher precision and with it the ability for far better incremental UI input than even a mouse, i sure hope they finally give the iPad UI far more capabilities. For anything other than type input intensive use-case, the iPad can be the go-to computer for many applications.

Just needs to live up to the promise of "desktop-class". We need the applications to prove that.
 
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I am tempted to pick one up just for study notes - will be between this and a (future) Surface Pro 5.

How has peoples experience been writing code/equations? Compatibility/issues with Word/PDF documents?
It's terrific for taking handwritten math notes using Apple Pencil. I do it all the time and it has completely changed my workflow in that regard. But that's handwritten notes. I also tried using it for LaTeX and it sucks for that. doing it on a computer with a mouse and a real keyboard is WAY faster. I don't see that changing either because LaTeX requires constant access to special characters and constant switching between the tex source and the output files. So as much as I hate Windows I am actually thinking of getting a Surface Pro next time I upgrade. It's one device that can be used for both tasks.
 
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Yeah, they're great for the dongle makers. I hear all this wonderful talk about the bandwidth of TB3, but how many thumb drives or external HDs can even use a fraction of it. The real world still runs on USB. A few days ago I was confronted with the need to print a document away from home. The only available printer had a USB connection. Couldn't use my iPhone or iPad, but my ancient 2011 MBP with those dinosaur USB ports got the job done. A new MBP with zero USB connectivity would have been useless.
It's not that hard to carry a cable or two. It isn't as if this is the first time that Apple has dropped all legacy ports in favor of the future. In fact, they did just that with USB-A back in 1998.

Apple is obviously trying to push the market forward rather than look backward. USB-C is superior because it combines power delivery and data delivery.
 
I am definitely WANTNG to buy the new iPad 12.9" Pro already and I know nothing about the specs. The iPad 3 is getting a bit clunky now (although it still works). I am just concerned that it will be completely out of my reach as I won't be able to afford it thanks to crazy expensive Apple prices that seem to have gone out of control in the UK (thanks to Brexit morons).

If it has multiple sign in's available for different users that swings it to a must buy. Why we cannot have that for a 'pro' device is beyond me. Not many companies or home users can afford one of these EACH. I know I can't. :(
 
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My iPad Pro should last me for a few years at least. It's truly great for what it is. I can't write apps on it, but I don't want to.

You make a great point. This is exactly why iPad sales are down. There is no compelling reason to upgrade every year or two. For most people, you can easily get 3 years out of an iPad, if not more.
 
Definitely looking forward to the 10.5 inch model since I find the current 12.9 too big and the 9.7 too small now.

But the real issue with iPads is the software; not hardware.
 
Keeps saying this even as iPad sales keep plummeting. At what point does reality hit him that the iPad's OS needs to be more robust than that of a phone if the general public is going to think of it as a viable laptop equivalent?

I'm not looking at it to replace a laptop. But improve on what it does well. Entertainment, doc/comics viewing, drawing..basically. Basically not sitting at a desk and staring at my PC. Whatever I do there, I'm not using the ipad for.

I would have to say the 9.7" Pro isn't really worthwhile to me. I think I preferred the 12" which was more immersive. It will depend on any new Apple Pencil and support for it. But most likely waiting on OLED.
 
"We've got some exciting things coming on iPad and I'm optimistic about where things are headed," added Cook.

Someone needs to inform Cook that when you say the same thing over and over and over (etc) again that the words lose all meaning.

Someone ought to tell the exact same thing to the trolls and critics in this forum as well. But then again, their words never had any meaning or significance to begin with, so...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Agreed. Plus, maybe simplify the iPad lineup. Drop the Air, and have the only difference between the 7.9 Mini, 9.7" & 12.9" be just that: the screen size. Maybe add a 11" iPad, but whatever.

My guess is - that's their plan. The 9.7" iPad Pro becomes the new entry level iPad. The 10.5" iPad is the new "Pro" for mainstream users, and the 12.9" Pro is for power users.

All will support the Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard. Doubt we will see a "Pro" version of the iPad mini.
 
Declining market about the same size as the Mac markets, yet regular updates. Sometimes this stuff is just unbelievable and you have to wonder just what does Apple strategy look like?

But... but... You all criticise Apple and Tim Cook for being too focused on where the money is! "Damn them for not updating the Mac Pro, and discontinuing their outdated routers! Rawr!"
 
I agree -- sort of -- though I haven't fallen as far as ordering a Windows tablet yet.

In fact I owned just about every meaningful iPad, the original one, the iPad 2, the iPad Air and both the 9.7 and 12.9 iPad Pros. Everyone of them bought on release day. For over a year I was iOS-only, keeping only a USB-key with MacOS on to hijack the iMacs at the library if needed (had to do it twice in a year).

What I find maddening about the iPad is that it is almost entirely capable of replacing a laptop (for me at least, I'm an academic, so office-style work is what I do, plus content consumption like any other guy). But Apple doesn't seem very interested in bridging that last tiny bit.

The iPad's problems, as I see them:
1) software. we all agree it can and should do more
2) the peripherals. The Smart Keyboard in particular, should be less ugly, backlit, and they should really come up with some sort of variable angle mechanism*. The Pencil, too, really need a way to stick to the iPad (the third party options are goofy at best)

* Honestly, the day I bought a MacBook Pro and ended my iOS-only year of experimentation I was pushed over the edge by having to try to work for several hours on a desk where the overhead lights and the fixed angle of the Smart Keyboard combined to produce the best reflections I have ever seen, followed by the best headache I have ever had. When I got my MBP I cuddled the hinge and pushed the screen at different angles for an hour just do undo the trauma. And sure, I have tried things like the Brydge for 12.9, but at that stage I am the first to say, you might as well get a laptop.

In sum: if Apple wants me to ditch the MBP and go iPad-only again, I am more than willing to do so. But they need to give me a clear set of use-modes: how do I work when I am at the desk (Logi Base + Magic Keyboard?), what do I take with me on the go (Smart Keyboard?), and when I factor in all these extra accessories, etc, what is the residual advantage over a laptop?

yes, better keyboard and a trackpad would make it immensely more usable. Also as you say, adjustable hinge.

For me though, it is each device for its best purpose. Desktop - productivity, laptop - portable productivity, iPad - drawing / markup, light editing and consumption.
 
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