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Originally posted by Choppaface


you mean you want paint chips? I'd call the chipping tibooks that apple won't repair under warranty a ripoff....
Apple repainted my TiBook a couple of times!!!
All you have to say is: I didn’t spend $2700 for a Goddamn chipped (paint) PowerBook!! ;) :p :D
 
wheres the airport card?

so in the pics of the alu book harddrive swap... I cant find the airport extreem card.... the apple site has it featured in all its mathcing grey glory, but in the torn down alu book, its no where to be seen..

are these cards no longer user installable?
 
Re: wheres the airport card?

Originally posted by vincentmeanie
so in the pics of the alu book harddrive swap... I cant find the airport extreem card.... the apple site has it featured in all its mathcing grey glory, but in the torn down alu book, its no where to be seen..

are these cards no longer user installable?
there is a door for it. If you remove the battery from the bottom you will see a little side door, i meant to take a picture of it but my battery went dead. next time i go to work i will take one. all i can say is the aiport extreme card is WAY smaller than the regular airport card. there is also a little rectangle on the bottom that you unscrew to put ram in. also on another note, you can no longer take off the keyboard from the top of the computer.

iJon
 
I've used the 12" AlBook at my Apple Store, and I like it. Even the employees at the store liked it. Mac people were flocking to it.
The Aluminum really is better than the Titanium, and the whole thing has a good feel to it.
An all around well designed notebook.
Originally posted by MacAztec
Its not for people who want a mobile desktop. Its for students/adults that want a MOBILE laptop.
I totally agree with you there. The 15" and (especially) 17" models are more mobile desktops. That doesn't mean you couldn't use the 12" as a desktop, I just see it as one awe-inspiring laptop (despite the lack of FW800 and the Memory limitations).
BTW, I liked to Cube! ;)
 
Originally posted by Sun Baked
Take a look at this...

http://deafchurch.net/hdswap/

Maybe you can figure of how to squeeze in a PCMCIA slot into this thing when Apple engineers couldn't.

Though, there does seem to be enough space if you remove the logic board, or the battery. ;)
Two questions. Fist, is the IBM drive larger? Second, is the IBM drive faster? There's not much info. Any the home page only boasts about Jesus, which I haven't found, but still searching for.
 
Re: scratches

Not too sure about Al-oxide being the second hardest substance known to man, but I guess I'll take your word for it. Apple may as well make the shell out of diamond, with Aus prices on the current powerbooks it would probably be just as affordable - but that is another matter.

In any case, pardon the pun, anodised Al will still scratch, as will any metal. I have a few Al products with anodised coatings, even colours, and the surface does wear through handling, and any scratches are quite visible.

What I would like to see is how it stands up to the acidic nature of sweat and skin oils from hands and fingertips over time. I'd reckon other metals would be superior to Al in this regard - but they won't be as light.

...I still want one!
 
Airport Extreme in 12" AluBook

I just looked at the service manual (I work for an apple service center) and yes, like iJon said, the airport extreme slot is right inside the battery compartment.

Can't post the pics and such, but it looks more more accessible than it was on the iBooks, or the TiBooks. I also like the new location for memory on the Powerbook 12". .... "Just like my Dell" :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by alex_ant
Hmm, well, if the Albook gets stolen and recovered, the police can do a fingerprint analysis to find out whose it is. :)

One problem with that...if a lot of PC users suddenly attract their fingers to the Al surface, there is going to be more than one person standing in front of a big, brown desk and someone in a black cloak. :D :D
 
My Dad's 12" PowerBook jsut arrived today, and I can now say with certainty that this is an amazing laptop. I used it for a presentation with iPhoto, and my friends, all PC users, were obsessed with it. I had to chase them away from the laptop because I needed to run the slides. It is awesome!!!

Jonathan
 
Originally posted by pyrotoaster


That doesn't mean you couldn't use the 12" as a desktop, I just see it as one awe-inspiring laptop (despite the lack of FW800 and the Memory limitations).


i got to finally try out the 12 inch albook today and i was impressed...while it was a little lighter and smaller than the 12 inch ibook, it felt more solid and durable

the 12 inch has the tibook credentials and with the monitor out , you've got a real desktop replacement for most of us...it would go good with 17 inch external lcd

dollar for dollar, it's just as good a bargain as the imac and the $999 ibook

value for the dollar is geting better and better with apple and at this rate, one day no one will accuse apple of being overpriced:D
 
Originally posted by jefhatfield


i got to finally try out the 12 inch albook today and i was impressed...while it was a little lighter and smaller than the 12 inch ibook, it felt more solid and durable

the 12 inch has the tibook credentials and with the monitor out , you've got a real desktop replacement for most of us...it would go good with 17 inch external lcd

dollar for dollar, it's just as good a bargain as the imac and the $999 ibook

value for the dollar is geting better and better with apple and at this rate, one day no one will accuse apple of being overpriced:D

Yeah, man - the one thing missing is the CRT iMac upgraded to maybe the low-end iBook specs (700 MHz, 16MB VRAM ATI Radeon 7500, 20 GB drive), along with a price drop to $599. And the current $799 price point would have 800 MHz, 32MB VRAM, 30 GB Drive, and combo drive! And of course the low-end eMac, to stay competitive, would have to get a speed bump to 800 MHz along with a price drop to $999. So basically, for $200 more you get a G4, 17" screen, and 10GB more hard drive space, which I think sounds about right.

Man, oh, man, MAJOR switcherama if Apple were to surprise us all and announce that along with the upcoming FP iMac and eMac speed bumps /price drops. Can you imagine how those CRT iMacs would sell bundled with iLife? And if Apple REALLY wants to get saucy, they could even offer a Superdrive CRT iMac for $999. Can you IMAGINE the ruckus a sub-$1000 Mac with Superdrive would cause (of course the Superdrive eMac would have to be lowerd to $1299 and the Superdrive FP iMac to $1499). Man, if Apple can pull off those prices and still be profitable, they should do it! Their market share would double!
 
Originally posted by iJon
People who are thinking getting a powerbook, you may want to take a look at the barefeats comparisons, the powerbook barely beats the ibook. the ibook is cheaper, plus you can so spanning across monitors with a firmware hack on the ibook.

iJon

OK, Just to clear something up and save a few people from themselves---

Only attempt the monitor spanning hack if you are willing to toast your ibook. Read up on it at www.xlr8yourmac.com and think hard about the risk before attempting it.

Second, If you are doing any G4 related activity, then the powerbook will be much faster, period. Just compare some imovie render benchmarks between and Ibook and anything with a G4. The difference is obvious. iJon is talking about an Xbench benchmark and from what I can see xbench doesn't represent the power and advantage of altivec adequately. Finder copies and render tests are key for me.
 
Originally posted by markomarko



Only attempt the monitor spanning hack if you are willing to toast your ibook. Read up on it at www.xlr8yourmac.com and think hard about the risk before attempting it.



That's only for the iBook models that have an unsupported video card (Rage chip), the ones built after that will be fine. (just so long as you follow the instructions to the letter)
 
Originally posted by jefhatfield
and the 12 inch screen is too small to see with its resolution

and the casing is aluminum instead of real titanium...what a ripoff

NO **** MORON, why do you think they call it ALUMINUM POWERBOOK? :rolleyes:

This is the bumbest thread I've read on this site. Steve said on stage at the show, IT's MADE OF ALUMINUM BECAUSE IT'S STRONGER, AND WON'T HAVE THE CHIPPED PAINT ISSUE.

move on people, sorry for yelling.
 
Oh, you were trolling to get people to defend or attack the 12" powerbook for your sick personal pleasure. My bad for the post above.
 
What most people don't seem to realize is that this is an ultraportable, not a laptop. When I was looking for a smaller PC ultraportable, the best I could find was a 1.13mhz PIII and a lot less options for about 2000 (Circuit City has them for 1799 or so now). So when you put things in proper comparison, the AI 12" is a pretty sweet deal. I need something that can fit in a backpack or brought to lunch, then go home and plug it into my 19” CRT for home use.

I am currently waiting for the student store to ship some of the AIbooks in. They are only $1569, which makes this a great deal. Mainly all I need it for is some light Photoshop (100 mb), Director, and Illustrator work so I was wondering how exactly it stacks up to the 867 mhz 15" pb. I was considering the 15" for the 9000 card, but the fact that it has all of the old features, skin, and that it costs 500 more put me off and I'm waaaaaaaaay too impatient to wait for the new 15's. Anyhoo, if anyone has some benchmarks could you please pretty please with marmalade on top, give me the link?
 
Originally posted by Kid Red
Oh, you were trolling to get people to defend or attack the 12" powerbook for your sick personal pleasure. My bad for the post above.

mmmmkay then...

see kiddies, this is why one reads a forum's posts before adding one's own gems of wisdom.

pnw
 
>see kiddies, this is why one reads a forum's posts before adding one's own gems of wisdom.

I feel for those poor sap newbies, who have to read the entire Poop thread to reply, then wake up the following morning after a horrible nightmare...and something in their pants. :p :eek:

My dream desktop replacement would be the 17 inch model, because my family and myself travel very often, and my iBook 466 is a little iffy in some areas (320MB memory max., that one red stuck pixel on the side of the screen which is as hard to avoid as trying to not look at someone wearing a pink shirt to work), and also because I do not have a great deal of desk space to work with. I was barely able to manage fitting my iMac 233 in the very corner of my wall-edged desk for about two years.
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
>see kiddies, this is why one reads a forum's posts before adding one's own gems of wisdom.

I feel for those poor sap newbies, who have to read the entire Poop thread to reply, then wake up the following morning after a horrible nightmare...and something in their pants. :p :eek:

My dream desktop replacement would be the 17 inch model, because my family and myself travel very often, and my iBook 466 is a little iffy in some areas (320MB memory max., that one red stuck pixel on the side of the screen which is as hard to avoid as trying to not look at someone wearing a pink shirt to work), and also because I do not have a great deal of desk space to work with. I was barely able to manage fitting my iMac 233 in the very corner of my wall-edged desk for about two years.

that 17 inch will do quite well from the stats...i can't wait to actually see one, but the apple store here will get one, maybe, in a couple of weeks

for my purposes, my wife and i have been laptop only for three years (mostly), so if i go for the 12 inch powerbook, it will be a laptop replacement...or a main computer replacement in my case

for my sick pleasure, i sometimes use pcs or listen to the band disturbed;)
 
Oh and does anyone know if the same keyboard imprint problem will exist with the 12 that did with the older 15's?
 
Originally posted by Das
Oh and does anyone know if the same keyboard imprint problem will exist with the 12 that did with the older 15's?
nope that is a thing of the past. apple put rubber grips at top of the screen, the top of the laptop really never touches the computer.

iJon
 
>does anyone know if the same keyboard imprint problem will exist with the 12 that did with the older 15's?

This has been discussed already. You can keep that fingerprint issue off your computer by keeping the keyboard protectant, which came with your computer from the box, and placing it between the keyboard and the lid when you close the Powerbook for portability.
 

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