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iphonefreak450

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I hope this ain’t going to be true because I just ordered the 12 Mini and the reviews are mostly positive.

For those of us that have the 12 Mini, does this mean that Apple will still support this model with security updates?

 
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Significant1

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No. It will be updated. Hardware is the same as 12 and screenres the same as 11 pro. So not really much extra work. It might even become a collectors item, if supply is scarse :-D. However I think it is here to stay and down the line replace the 4.7" models.
 

Cryates

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The 12 mini will be software supported with any major or minor OS updates through at least 2025. No since in worrying about such things now.
 

TechLord

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My prediction is we will get a 12s/13 mini in 2021 since it’s heavily rumoured this is just an S year and the 4 models will be the same size wise. But that in 2022 we will likely get new sizes/designs and at that point the mini may be sleeping with the fishes unless it does much better next time around.
 
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DexBell

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My prediction is we will get a 12s/13 mini in 2021 since it’s heavily rumoured this is just an S year and the 4 models will be the same size wise. But that in 2022 we will likely get new sizes/designs and at that point the mini may be sleeping with the fishes unless it does much better next time around.
What will they do in 2022? iPhone 14 will be 7 inches and the Max will be 9 inches? Its beyond absurd how big they are already. Just put calling features in the iPad and let people who want massive devices lug those around and leave the PHONES to the rest of us.
 

ericwn

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What will they do in 2022? iPhone 14 will be 7 inches and the Max will be 9 inches? Its beyond absurd how big they are already. Just put calling features in the iPad and let people who want massive devices lug those around and leave the PHONES to the rest of us.

By your trajectory iPads will stop to exist as the 2024 iPhone max is the size of the iPad Pro. So, easy solution. Keep the cheap SE for those who want it small, develop the mainstream devices (just like to already do) in the sizes the market wants. Oh, and kill iPads.
 

iphonefreak450

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Can anyone please confirm that in case Apple decides to discontinue the 12 mini, will the iOS still continue to receive security updates?
 

DexBell

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By your trajectory iPads will stop to exist as the 2024 iPhone max is the size of the iPad Pro. So, easy solution. Keep the cheap SE for those who want it small, develop the mainstream devices (just like to already do) in the sizes the market wants. Oh, and kill iPads.
That’s not a solution if Apple wants to retain its customers. That will drive millions like myself, who bought a Mini, to other brands to get a smaller device. Most don’t want cheap, outdated devices with inferior batteries, displays and cameras. Google has the right idea with their budget model A series of phones. If all Apple offers in the future in small form factor is a cheap, outdated SE model with inferior specs, I’ll gladly get a Pixel A series phone instead of an iPhone, and so will plenty of others.
 
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Significant1

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What will they do in 2022? iPhone 14 will be 7 inches and the Max will be 9 inches? Its beyond absurd how big they are already. Just put calling features in the iPad and let people who want massive devices lug those around and leave the PHONES to the rest of us.
Foldable and/or glasses.
 

Falhófnir

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This doesn't mean discontinuation from sale, it's a stock management exercise. They have all the stock of the mini they need for now, but by all accounts need more 12 Pro units, so will likely shift production capacity to boosting stocks of that model. The mini will remain on sale for the duration of this cycle, and will probably also be succeeded by an updated model in September.

Further out weaker than expected mini sales might mean it won't be updated again in Sept. 2022 in favour of introducing a non-pro 'Max' model, maybe reintroducing the 5.8" size as the new 'mini' and bumping the 6.1" to 6.5", but who knows at this point.
 

Khaleesi Kendall

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Can anyone please confirm that in case Apple decides to discontinue the 12 mini, will the iOS still continue to receive security updates?
Think of it this way, the iPhone 7 and 8 both got updates after it they were discontinued, the x/xs line as well so even if they discontinued the mini you’re literally going to get updates as long as the other 3 iPhones get their updates, because they will eventually be discontinued as well (similar to how the iPhone 11 Pro/max were last year) but they will be getting iOS 15 as well this year lol
 

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ericwn

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That’s not a solution if Apple wants to retain its customers. That will drive millions like myself, who bought a Mini, to other brands to get a smaller device. Most don’t want cheap, outdated devices with inferior batteries, displays and cameras. Google has the right idea with their budget model A series of phones. If all Apple offers in the future in small form factor is a cheap, outdated SE model with inferior specs, I’ll gladly get a Pixel A series phone instead of an iPhone, and so will plenty of others.

Apple offers four screens sizes, there’s plenty to chose from and it’s certainly obvious where the market is headed. Apple knew that all along and went for the “small” niche anyway with two models. They’ll certainly keep at least one around for a bit so you should be good.
 

DexBell

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Apple offers four screens sizes, there’s plenty to chose from and it’s certainly obvious where the market is headed. Apple knew that all along and went for the “small” niche anyway with two models. They’ll certainly keep at least one around for a bit so you should be good.
I replied to the guy who was talking about Apple dropping the Mini and keeping only a budge model SE as a small iPhone. Would be a huge mistake. I would never buy another iPhone again if the smallest with current gen specs were some massive iPhone, and there are plenty others who feel the same.
 
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Apple_Robert

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There is no need to stress out. Those of you who have the phone will continue to get support updates, should the phone be discontinued. If it is, you will still be able to buy the phone. It's not like they will all disappear without a trace.

No need for so many threads about possible mini....
 
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ericwn

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I replied to the guy who was talking about Apple dropping the Mini and keeping only a budge model SE as a small iPhone. Would be a huge mistake. I would never buy another iPhone again if the smallest with current gen specs were some massive iPhone, and there are plenty others who feel the same.

Yup these many probably make like 5% of the market but as said, Apple cared for your niche with not just one but two models for now.
 

joeblow7777

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Can anyone please confirm that in case Apple decides to discontinue the 12 mini, will the iOS still continue to receive security updates?
I, and others, have already said, yes it will. Apple supports hardware with software/security updates for as long as that hardware can run them. It has nothing to do with the production status of the device. The 12 Mini has the same internal hardware as iPhone 12, and only differs from the 12 Pro/Max by a little bit of RAM and less fancy camera setup. Based on all past history, all iPhone 12 models will receive full support for 5 years or more.

For instance, the iPhone 6s which was released in 2015 and has been out of production for years still runs the lastest OS with all software/security updates.
 
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