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12 Reasons to Wait for Next Year's iPhone 17
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Downgrade for customers, but upgrade for tight Tim who will shave dollars off the costings just for the sake of his shareholders.
Apple Marketing at its best,..talk up titanium as the worlds greatest and lightest alloy, then delete it for the sake of a few dollars in savings.
If this rumour is true, something major must be going with Apple's titanium supply.
Even from a "cost-cutting" perspective, it makes no sense to drop all that money into R&D, procurement/supply, and construction of/with titanium and then drop it only 2 years later.
Even if this is a rumor it’s still crazy to have 12gb of ram just to only view one app at a time
A downgrade in casing might be necessary to maintain the current price point in the face of the supposed 10% tariff on Chinese goods the next US administration is threatening. So, don't blame Tim.
Whenever I’m writing something a bit complex, I rely on the proofreading and rewriting tools. They help me catch typos and grammar errors, and they can also help me simplify complex sentences.
So, to answer your question directly, I’m thoroughly enjoying Apple Intelligence. It is a lot easier than using an LLM app and then doing the copy/switch-app/paste/query/copy/switch-app/paste shuffle.
The Dynamic Island is a silly feature. Apple is trying to make the best of the bad situation of still needing a notch. If I were in charge, I would have nixed it because it adds too little and creates inconsistencies across devices. Besides the UI inconsistency, it also introduces additional code, which makes more work for developers and increases the chances of bugs.
That said, I’ve grown accustomed to the useful notifications I get in the Dynamic Island. I will probably be disappointed when it’s removed when I upgrade the phone in a few years. This is another reason Apple should have passed on the idea. It made half the users critical when it was added. Since it is temporary, half the users will be upset when it is no longer necessary. I was in the first group. Now that I find the feature useful, I'll probably also be in the second group.
If you want a phone now or need one now get one. Don’t wait because we have no idea if any of this is true
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It really does. There has to be some sort of method to this madness lol
Aluminum overall lighter than titan.???
My guess is yes simply because aluminum foil comes to mind first when I think alum. Hah
That’s interesting “reinforced?”…hmmm (really wish we had a thinking emoji 🧐)
What if it was reinforced (only
Makes sense to me if alum. IS lighta than titan.). This makes it “the most durable iPhone ev.)… but that would seemingly take away from Apple care cases and out of pocket screen /body fixes…
Yikes I just came from 14 PM 2 16 PM and lemme tell you…those old pros were HEAVY. Such a great QOL update the titanium…you shouldn’t wait for next yr just grab a 16 pro ..weight, spatial vids/pics, AI, battery, great zoom, usbc, great heat management, awesome microphone, etc.
I actually would add 15 pro to your list because of spatial capture capability for the first time some plus AI…then 16 cuz it has spatial vid and pics plus full AI suite when ready, biggest screen ever, 120/4k, camera button for blazing fast camera access, and biggest zoom yet by a wide margin on an iPhone.
Don’t forget to take some spatial captures w ur 15 pro camera!!! Thank me lata…
Doubt it lol
I went from an 8 plus I unboxed myself to 12 pro I did likewise and my old 8 battery was on the exact same level as my new 12 pro. Smh
I was speechless. Smh
It took only a couple days and I realized it was for real and I was duped. I thought “pro, oh yeah let’s do this”…if I read reviews at that time I would’ve seen people saying max’s have the best battery life
WHAAAAAAAT??!!!?!?!?…coulda sworn that was new on 13 or 14 pros…and you say not even the pro model had it?…that’s the feature where when taking a video the camera stays steady so footage isnt too shaky?
Ive been doing Always on Display since my 12 pro….without looking it up, will you be able to guess? I’ve Neva seen or heard of someone doing the same thing and I do it for a very very specific reason..
Haha. What if (way down the line) they offer a massive screen that’s foldable with an outside screen as a mini somehow and it’s not massive thick…you biting??
went from 14 pm to 16 pm and the weight alone is great never mind bigger screen, batt, AI, spatial vid/pics etc
Love my old traded in 14 pm but this 16 is real real nice. Massive upgrade. My jump from 8 plus to 12 pro was not big at all. I didn’t like 12 pro actually because screen was so much slimmer : (
Island is great. Would re-enable it whenever they go full screen (except when watching movies or gaming)…it’s that good, I actually loved the old notch and thought I’d miss it but this island is even better. I’m one of the few that actually likes the way the island looks during a full screen movie, television show or game.
what if somehow this rumored layout makes it sit nicer on flat tables/surfaces?….could be worth the possibly ugly design (but let’s be cereal here, this is Apple we’re talkin…very little (if any) ugly coming out of Cupertino).
Very doubtful…they don’t want to take away from iPad sales…although I think it would be worth it since it would attract MANY of those android fans…
You’re seriously missing out. Read my whole post if you haven’t yet..
This was not even a 7 plus???…you must be a real light user..fascinating.
AI, whatever else iOS is computing in the background…these rams do a lot and I’m sure have been doing a lot for a long time…
You’re over thinking it. Plus, my guess, Apple allows island in some fashion even when we can get full screen display.
That’s an OS feature, not a hardware feature.
It’s not ready for prime time, as expected.
It is not delayed, this is exactly what we knew from day 1.
I’m not entirely against that, but I never thought of an 18.3 feature as an iPhone 16 feature. I can see how you and others might have though, due to the adverts. This isn’t the first time Apple announced an OS feature wasn’t coming until a dot release, though.
It’s mostly a list of rumors. The title implies it might be a reason to wait, if you find any of the rumors worth waiting for. After all, the only reason to wait (besides your personal financial situation) is due to differences between the current model and the next one. I can only assume that a material change offers some advantages, or at least trade-offs Apple thinks most will appreciate.
But of course not every new feature is loved equally by everyone. Some here are hoping the camera bump is eliminated, while I’d be okay with it getting a tiny bit bigger if it improves the camera. Eliminating the bump *now* would make the camera system worse. Trade-offs.
Feel like there will be many changes with the 17 series. First off, the new Air/Slim iPhone will be completely different.
120 Hz on the base models will be a very welcome change. As for the Pro models, looking forward to having improvements to selfie camera along with the 48MP telephoto lens. Expecting to see 10x optical quality like zoom on the 17 Pro Max. Also the smaller dynamic island on the 17 Pro Max will be nice.
All this along with the usual improvements due to the processor upgrades and some new Apple Intelligence features too!!
120 Hz on the base models will be a very welcome change. As for the Pro models, looking forward to having improvements to selfie camera along with the 48MP telephoto lens. Expecting to see 10x optical quality like zoom on the 17 Pro Max. Also the smaller dynamic island on the 17 Pro Max will be nice.
All this along with the usual improvements due to the processor upgrades and some new Apple Intelligence features too!!
It will be cheaper... not for you, for them!
The Sunk Cost Fallacy
You don't know the facts or figures involved, nor the analysis based on that data which was used to justify the change.
My next 300 phone calls and messages are reasons for me NOT to have waited.
Context is as important. Click-Bate is still Click-Bate.
Context is as important. Click-Bate is still Click-Bate.
Why on earth would anyone want to be a Beta Tester for Apple's new Wi-Fi Chip? I was under the impression the new SE was going to be the first to use it?
If they are meaningless go get an iPhone 12 and then tell me.
Yeah. I mean the entire purpose of a RAW photo is to have a completely unaltered image. Doing any post processing to it kind of defeats the purpose.
I've been waiting forever to upgrade my iPhone 13 mini! Haven't yet!
The article doesn't, however aluminum is much better at heat dissipation, which Apple need to improve quickly, because with the AI, things are just going to get hotter.
Apple can't build a vape chamber, because of MagSafe
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Unless much bigger cameras are incorporated, which would necessitate the change in lay out, however you have a valid point, in that the current lay out has become iconic with iPhone pro
who cares, is it small????
can we PLEASE get a one handed phone???
can we PLEASE get a one handed phone???
Just rumors so far. Something more serious will probably leak around march/april.
By the way, as usual a year over year upgrade it’s a bad idea. Skip one or even better two generations is a much wiser idea
By the way, as usual a year over year upgrade it’s a bad idea. Skip one or even better two generations is a much wiser idea