12 year old girl shoots mom

[jadekitty24]

Ban these sort of "gangster" knives you get for sure. But I think you're missing the point. Guns were made for 2 reasons, to attack and defend. You don't go making a birthday cake with a gun, you don't quietly disperse an insect infestation problem in the basement with a gun, you don't drive a gun to drop the kids off at school or drive to work on. Guns shoot. Nothing more. To say "ban everything!" is just ridiculous and taking other peoples arguments to the extreme.

Umm, apparently you did not detect my sarcasm...banning guns is as stupid as banning everything else. Like you said, guns were made to attack and defend. Attack doesn't necessarily mean murder. I can't believe you really think I was serious about banning anything that could potentially kill. Guns just tend to get more media attention and that gives the whacko groups who have nothing real to do a purpose. I still say banning them would be stupid. People would still get them, only those of us who want to defend ourselves in our own home would be screwed. Drugs aren't legal but I can obtain any one of them easier than I could obtain alcohol.

Here's one, ban alcohol. Alcohol reduces inhibitions which in turn make you more likely to kill someone. How many drunken attacks take place in the world or rather how many attacks or muggings take place because of some link to drink or drugs?

I was gonna add this to my list of "things that would as much sense to ban as banning guns" but it was too far fetched.

I agree at the end. Get rid of them. Anyone who uses a gun needs to be put away. The only exceptions I can think of is protecting your family and home from an intruder or if they have a gun too. Anything else is stupid.
But that point can be skewed. About a year ago (maybe?), a girl in London was stabbed in the neck because she stepped on someone elses toes at a dance.

It's all down to attitudes. People with them; get off Earth.

Glad you agree

 

[MarkCollette]

This is all fine and dandy in a idealistic world.

Reality is different.

For example, how would you feel if a child killed someone you dearly loved?

Would you have this same perspective?

Saying words like "idealistic" and "realistic" in no way diminishes my explanation. I have no idea what you're hoping to argue. It's a simple fact that someone who is sufficiently older will have gained more experiences, and learned more of our social codes. That older person, committing a horrible crime, will be more at fault, because they better understand what they have done. This is why minors receive different punishment, and why insane people are judged differently as well.

Also, it doesn't matter what the family of a victim thinks. Our justice is based on an impartial application of law, not pandering to the hurt emotional vindictive wishes of victims.

But, since you asked, if an adult killed someone I loved, then I'd want to beat them to death. Not in that sort of stereotypical way that everyone always says that. No, seriously, for real. So, when I imagine doing the same to a 12 year old child, I can't help but feel revulsion and horror at the thought. So, no, I would not treat a child the same as an adult, even if they killed someone I loved. Of course I still feel they should be punished. But at the very least I'd like to take a baseball bat to their parents too. In this particular case, the girl killed her mother, so perhaps some justice has already been metted out.

 

[princealfie]

I don't care much for guns at all. In fact, the gun culture scares me quite a bit. In movies and everything else we tend to pick up a gat and why?

Instead, let's pick up an apple instead.

By the way, if you want to know more Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine is awesome. Good commentary on the problems caused by American's glamorization of guns.

To be honest, the NRA is to blame. I think that they are the evildoers of the modern society.

 

[princealfie]

Artist: Boogie Down Productions
Album: By Any Means Necessary
Song: Stop the Violence

Worldwide BDP are the freshest!
Worldwide! Worldwide! Worldwide!

One two three, the crew is called BDP
and if you want to go to the tip top
stop the violence in hip-hop, Y-O

Time and time again, as I pick up the pen
as my thoughts emerge, these are those words
I glance at the paper to know what's going on
someone's doing wrong, the story goes on
Mary Lue's had a baby someone else decapitated
the drama of the world shouldn't keep us so frustrated
I look, but it doesn't coincide with my books
social studies when I speak upon political crooks
It's just the presidents, and all the money they spent
all the things they invent and how the house is so immaculate
They paid missiles, my family's eating gristle
then they get upset when the press blows the whistle
Of course the main profiles are kept low
you temper with some jobs, now the press is controlled
Not only newspapers, but every single station
you only get to hear the president is on vacation
But ehrm, stay calm, there's no need for alarm
You say "go back" to your mom, and you're off to Vietnam
You shoot to kill, come back and you're a veteran
but how many veterans are out there pedaling?
There's no telling, 'cause they continue selling
As quiet as it's kept, I won't go into depth
You can talk about Nigeria, people used to laugh at ya.
Now I take a look, I say "USA for Africa?!"

Huh.
What's the solution, to stop all this confusion?
Rewrite the constitution, change the drug which you're using
Rewrite the constitution or the emancipation proclamation
we fight inflation, yet the president's still on vacation

BDP posse!
I say: one two three, the crew is called BDP
And if you wanna go to the tip top
stop the violence in the hip-hop, Y-O

This might sound a little strange to you
well here's the reason I came to you
We gotta put our heads together, and stop the violence
Cause real bad boys move in silence
When you're in a club, you come to chill out
not watch someones blood just spill out
That's what these other people want to see
another race fight endlessly
You know we're being watched, you know we're being seen
Some wish to destroy this scene called hip-hop
But I won't drop
not I or Scott LaRock
Now here is the message that we bring today:
hip-hop will surely decay
if we as a people don't stand up and say:
"Stop the violence!"
"Stop the violence!"
"Stop the violence!"
"Stop the violence!"
"Stop the violence!"

I say: one two three, the crew is called BDP
And if you wanna go to the tip top
stop the violence in the hip-hop, Y-O

BDP and me
we step into the party top celebrity
Say when we're coming to dance, we never have to pay a fee
Cause that's where we got R-E-S-P-E-C-T
I have this one wife, her name is Miss Melody
I know I'm from the Bronx, she from the Brooklyn posse
I tell ya look a little like this, then I tell you some that I
Sometimes I got my gear on, sometimes I wear a hat
Sometimes I'm in a Mercedes and sometimes I'm in a plain
Sometimes I find myself upon the number two train
Some people look at me and see negativity
some people look at me and see positivity
But when I see myself I see creativity
So if I can create, well then I make some money
Sha man, just put your hands up if you're out here gettin' paid
Sha man, just put your hands up if you're out here gettin' paid
One two three, the crew is called BDP
And if you wanna go to the tip top
stop the violence in the hip-hop, Y-O

 

[Platform]

Maybe, but just the fact that they are there presents a greater danger than if they were not.
I wouldn't have a clue where to get one from, and I think the same would go for the vast majority of people over here.

If you wanted a gun, you would be able to get one anywhere in the world. If you are willing to pay others are willing to sell, will only take you a few of the right people to ask. (Not that I buy illegal guns)

And to say, this seems to be happening a little too much, young people killing others