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Apple launched its iCloud.com beta tonight. The beta is intended for developers to test their iCloud syncing functionality, though there has been some confusion about who exactly had access. Early on, it seemed that Apple inadvertently allowed access to more than just developers, but we now hear that Apple has started shutting out these non-developer users.

iCloud is Apple's upcoming syncing and storage service for both iOS 5 and OS X Lion. iCloud (the service) stores your music, photos, apps, calendars, documents and keeps it in sync across multiple devices. iCloud.com (the website) represents Apple's MobileMe website replacement that gives users online access to their Calendar, Email, Address Book, Find My Phone and iWork data. The entire interface borrows heavily from iOS and Lion and incorporates many nice graphical flourishes and animations.

This quick walkthrough video by helpfulmactips2010 shows the different pieces in place:

Apple has also revealed the pricing for additional iCloud storage. iCloud comes with 5GB of free storage, and the additional pricing is as follows:

• 10GB Additional, $20/year
• 20GB Additional, $40/year
• 50GB Additional, $100/year

Apple has said that purchased music, apps, and books, as well as Photo Stream, don't count against your free 5GB storage.

Much more about iCloud should be revealed as the launch nears. Apple has promised that iCloud will launch this fall alongside iOS 5. OS X Lion will also need an update to fully support iCloud.

Article Link: First Look Video of iCloud.com Beta
 
I wish it would sync my notes. Those things are hard to get to -not on the iPhone - I don't use the Apple Mail app on my mac (is that the only place they are stored?).

But I "jot" things down on my phone all the time.

Oh and I want the old palm "graffiti" on my iPhone.
 
They say Dropbox only gives you 2 GB for free, but that's not really true. You can get up to 8 or 16 GB additional for free, if you send out some referrals. With iCloud, you can't do that.
 
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They say Dropbox only gives you 2 GB for free, but that's not really true. You can get up to 8 or 16 GB additional for free, if you send out some referrals. With iCloud, you can't do that.

However if you own thousands of songs the 16gb looks very small along with apps and photos.
 
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However if you own thousands of songs the 16gb looks very small along with apps and photos.
Of course, iCloud has an advantage there. But I meant for storing general files and stuff. Anyway, 5 GB is enough for me, and I can keep using Dropbox for other stuff. I'm not really complaining, just pointing it out. It's not fair to say Dropbox only gives you 2 GB.
 
I wish it would sync my notes. Those things are hard to get to -not on the iPhone - I don't use the Apple Mail app on my mac (is that the only place they are stored?).

But I "jot" things down on my phone all the time.

Oh and I want the old palm "graffiti" on my iPhone.

You could try Evernote. I bet there are a lot of others that sync via DropBox. Soon to be a lot a lot of others that sync through iCloud.

I want to know if I need Lion to sync iCal events. The wife and I have iPhones, but I don't plan on upgrading to Lion for awhile (too much $$$ to upgrade my 3rd party apps). We want wireless syncing of events (daughter's ballet, etc.). Will these sync back (wirelessly, via iCloud) to Snow Leopard iCal from iOS 5 iPhones?
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_5 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8L1 Safari/6533.18.5)

I'm finding it hard to care, I'm not paying apples prices for music. Amazon and the used record stores have helped me accumulate my 110 gb's of music. My iPod video does a very good job of playing that music. Call me old school but I dont feel like paying at least 100 bucks a year to store my music hat I already own and have stored in three places.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_5 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8L1 Safari/6533.18.5)

I'm finding it hard to care, I'm not paying apples prices for music. Amazon and the used record stores have helped me accumulate my 110 gb's of music. My iPod video does a very good job of playing that music. Call me old school but I dont feel like paying at least 100 bucks a year to store my music hat I already own and have stored in three places.

Music to store on iCloud is $25 a year.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_5 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8L1 Safari/6533.18.5)

I'm finding it hard to care, I'm not paying apples prices for music. Amazon and the used record stores have helped me accumulate my 110 gb's of music. My iPod video does a very good job of playing that music. Call me old school but I dont feel like paying at least 100 bucks a year to store my music hat I already own and have stored in three places.

Ok, first of all:
It costs $25 a year, not $100, to store your music in iCloud. Stop being so ignorant.
Secondly, if you have 3 places to put your music, then that's all good. iTunes Match isn't for you. Its meant to make your music iCloud compatible. If you don't find the service to fufill your needs, don't complain about it. No one said you had to get it. :rolleyes:
 
Only with OSX Lion

If iCloud works only with OSX Lion, then I'll stick with Dropbox for now. Wirelessly syncing photos and music at night while my phone is charging is enough for me.

Still using my MacBook 1st generation (Core Duo) for 5+ years, and running Snow Leopard just fine!:D
 
Why no web space now

I don't use it a lot but the webspace and photo albums have been great for me. Ok other services exist, true, but I don't want any more user accounts, passwords etc to keep track of.:(

Mobile Me is not perfect true, but it did what I needed it to. Why not have a "basic service" that is free and give us a "premium or pro service" with bolt on options, oh and while your at it Apple please centralise your Apple IDs so I don't have to log in and out to update the Apps I have purchased/downloaded via different email accts/apple ID's - I'm he same person but now have Mobile Me (or should that be had?) so let me "shift" my apps across to the one acct. :mad:
 
hmmm, so what could you put in there to count against it then?

Documents such as from Pages, Keynote, Numbers, PDFs. Also, your contacts is another example. Mainly small files, which is why Apple believes 5GB should be enough for Joe/Jane Average.

If developers get APIs to use iCloud syncing, I'm guessing whatever data gets passed back and forth would count.
 
"Apple has said that purchased music, apps, and books, as well as Photo Stream, don’t count against your free 5GB storage."

Do they mean only music purchased from iTunes?
 
"Apple has said that purchased music, apps, and books, as well as Photo Stream, don’t count against your free 5GB storage."

Do they mean only music purchased from iTunes?

If you don't pay the $25/year then it will only be the purchased music. If you pay the $25/year then it will be all music you have that could be found in the iTune database.
 
Got on there long enough to see that the pale diarrhea leather calendar has made it onto another platform, god help us.

Still can't believe the same people who designed the iPhone 4, the MacBook Air, the iMac etc., put this hideous thing into the world. It makes no sense.
 
music match may prove to be a dud

I think music match for $25/year will prove to be a dud. With wireless syncing, do you really need music match? I think with the 5GB free iCloud service, Apple will give Dropbox, Google and others some competition. I think the vast majority of us will take advantage of this free service and only a small percentage of us will pay for the service. With competitions heating up, you never know what service will be free in the future, especially when Google is involved!
 
I think music match for $25/year will prove to be a dud. With wireless syncing, do you really need music match? I think with the 5GB free iCloud service, Apple will give Dropbox, Google and others some competition. I think the vast majority of us will take advantage of this free service and only a small percentage of us will pay for the service, and with competitions heating up, you never know what service will be free in the future, especially when Google is involved!

I am planning on paying the $25/yr for 3 reasons. #1, it is more clean with all the correct information and cover art for all the music. #2, it is an upgraded sound for most of my library. #3, if I ever happen to lose all of my music from my mac I can just legally download it all from iTunes again! (HUUUGE plus in my opinion!)


- Joe
 
Question, why use iTunes match?? aka why store music in cloud?? what does it do?? Stream on the iDevice without taking up storage??

Also, if you do the iTunes match, and it converts your low quality songs so higher, will that JUST be for streaming?? or will it be better quality locally on the hard rive itself as well??
 
Question, why use iTunes match?? aka why store music in cloud?? what does it do?? Stream on the iDevice without taking up storage??

Also, if you do the iTunes match, and it converts your low quality songs so higher, will that JUST be for streaming?? or will it be better quality locally on the hard rive itself as well??

It makes it as if you downloaded the song through iTunes to begin with. ;-)
 
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