First Look Video of iCloud.com Beta

[Anaemik]

• with apple you can get 155GB per year for $100. (includes 5GB free)
•with dropbox you can get 152GB per year for $120.(includes 2GB free)
apple doesn't charge for music, apps, photostream pics against your free 5GB, dropbox does.

Umm, no you can't. Please read the OP again. Dropbox's upgrade plan offers you twice as much storage space as Apple's for the same price. I won't go into ancillary benefits, but just going by raw data storage of your choice, then Dropbox offers much better value for money.

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I'm curious about iTunes sync. I'm waiting to find out whether it will honour local metadata or if it will just impose itunes' default tags on my library. If it's the latter that would leave me very underwhelmed as I have a very large music library that I've spent a long time customising. I prefer to have a relatively small number of genres, with things further broken down using the Grouping field. If iTunes match undoes all that it will be next to useless for someone like me, so I'm really keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[weing]

Well,Thanks for reminding me how totally UNFUNCTIONAL the calendar is .

Icons you can't SEE because they are BLACK ON BROWN!


GRAYED OUT DATES????? and SMALL???

Holy crap. What were they thinking?

 

[Jerome Morrow]

Umm, no you can't. Please read the OP again. Dropbox's upgrade plan offers you twice as much storage space as Apple's for the same price. I won't go into ancillary benefits, but just going by raw data storage of your choice, then Dropbox offers much better value for money.

What upgrade plan? The upgrade link found in every free account?

 

[Sheza]

Why are old style iOS Notifications being used?

They are going to be defunct by the time iCloud launches with iOS5?

 

[Joe HS]

I wish it would sync my notes. Those things are hard to get to -not on the iPhone - I don't use the Apple Mail app on my mac (is that the only place they are stored?).

Sign in to Mail with a Gmail account and set "Notes" to "ON" in Settings.

Any changes you make in the notes app or in Gmail's notes section will automatically reflect on the other within a few seconds.

 

[HelveticaRoman]

These are the same people who EOL'd FCP with zero warning thus canning the better part of an entire industry and we're supposed to trust them with every scrap of data we own?

 

[Olivier81]

what happens after a year or itunes match? Does the music they converted to the itunes ibrary remain in its 'better' form on your mac and iphone or is it reverted? Will they always appear as if I bought them from itunes?

 

[Popeye206]

I think this is great for users like me. 5Gb's for basic syncing and sharing is awesome. Especially since Music, Apps and Photo Stream don't count.

However, I'm surprised this didn't include movies or TV shows from iTunes? Maybe that's coming or there is something else in the works surrounding video?

The pricing for the extra space is a little high. But that may change as time goes on. But I would think since most people are worried about their huge music library, $25 for iTunes Sync is a bargain.

 

[Popeye206]

what happens after a year or itunes match? Does the music they converted to the itunes ibrary remain in its 'better' form on your mac and iphone or is it reverted? Will they always appear as if I bought them from itunes?

Don't know for sure, but they indicate that your songs are matched to the iTunes library and made available for you to access from any of your iDevice. They also say you can control what is local on your device so you can go portable. So I would assume, you can convert and download the whole library back to your library for the $25 and it's yours to do with as you see fit.

 

[Anaemik]

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jerome Morrow

What upgrade plan? The upgrade link found in every free account?[/b]

Yes. You say this like it's a bad thing.

 

[tardegrade]

Was anyone else able to login, even if you aren't a developer, when the site first launched? It worked for me for about an hour.

I was able to login with my iTunes login for about 10 minutes until I logged out and couldn't get back in again.

I uploaded my profile picture and some additional contact information and was just trying to figure out how I could sync all my contacts. I wonder if the information I added will still be there when the service goes live.

 

[GaryMumford]

Got on there long enough to see that the pale diarrhea leather calendar has made it onto another platform, god help us.

Still can't believe the same people who designed the iPhone 4, the MacBook Air, the iMac etc., put this hideous thing into the world. It makes no sense.

I'll second that!!!

 

[Mr. Gates]

I like how they sneeked Installus in there

 

[cyberthom]

Of course, iCloud has an advantage there. But I meant for storing general files and stuff. Anyway, 5 GB is enough for me, and I can keep using Dropbox for other stuff. I'm not really complaining, just pointing it out. It's not fair to say Dropbox only gives you 2 GB.

actually it is fair - dropbox counts shared folders fully towards every subscribed users limit which is a joke if you think about it and saves them ********s of actual storage (it's not like it's stored twice in the cloud)..

icloud seems to only count storage your very own files use up - i'd be curious to see how iTunes match works but if none of the matched files count towards your limit that would be pretty amazing..

 

[szleski]

I wish it would sync my notes. Those things are hard to get to -not on the iPhone - I don't use the Apple Mail app on my mac (is that the only place they are stored?).

But I "jot" things down on my phone all the time.

Oh and I want the old palm "graffiti" on my iPhone.

Try Simplenote for iPhone and Notational Velocity for Mac - works like charm!
(Windows clients are also available.)

 

[techy298]

They teased me

being a very fast user to find these things I was on before they blocked non devs, and I saw it, but it was impossible to hook up to the computer, also the dev resources were blocked

 

[KALLT]

The website does look nice with all its graphics and animations. You can clearly see that Apple is starting to love HTML 5. I wonder though whether the website will be accessible in older browsers. My university is still clinging to Windows XP and Internet Explorer 7.

 

[sirozha]

So, can iCloud be used with one master (admin) account and several sub-accounts? Sub-accounts could be created and deleted by the master account? Any way to organize this into some sort of workgroup and use it in a small business for document sharing?

Or is it purely one independent iCloud account per individual?

If iCloud is purely a cloud-based syncing system, can your documents be somehow shared with another iCloud member?

Can you mark which documents and/or folders should be synced to iCloud or is this done automatically every time you create an iWork document on a "all-or-nothing" basis per each iWork application? I see there is an option left for third-party applications to use the documents-syncing option into iCloud. Does this leave the door open for non-iWork documents (e.g. PDFs) stored on the local hard drive to be synced into iCloud and possibly shared with other iCloud members? Or is this feature available for third-party applications only and not for files, per se? In other words, will iCloud be underlying-file-system aware when it comes to syncing or will it treat every iCloud-enabled application, be at an iWork application or a third-party application, as a "sandboxed" file system, kind of like apps are treated in iOS? In iOS, an app does not get access to the underlying file system but can create its own "sandboxed" file system for storing user files generated in that app, and no other app has access to that "sandboxed" file system.

Will Photo steam work with Aperture in Lion or is this only for iPhoto?

 

[RobQuads]

Looks very expensive to me

Googles offering...

20 GB ($5.00 USD per year)
80 GB ($20.00 USD per year)
200 GB ($50.00 USD per year)
400 GB ($100.00 USD per year)

So

Apple - $100 a year = 50GB
Google - $100 a year = 400GB

Thats quite a difference. Ok there may be slight differences in the capability of each but in terms of pure space they are different ball parks.

 

[Mr. Gates]

Looks very expensive to me

Googles offering...

20 GB ($5.00 USD per year)
80 GB ($20.00 USD per year)
200 GB ($50.00 USD per year)
400 GB ($100.00 USD per year)

So

Apple - $100 a year = 50GB
Google - $100 a year = 400GB

Thats quite a difference. Ok there may be slight differences in the capability of each but in terms of pure space they are different ball parks.

So true !

Even MS Skydrive gives 25gb of FREE storage

Compared to Apples • 20GB Additional, $40/year


A hard pill to swallow. I didn't get rich by throwing my money away.

 

[samcraig]

I'm not the target audience (and that's ok)....

I have no interest.

Those that have built their iTunes library in the last few years by buying music from Apple will benefit by not having their music count "against" them (storage). But for people like myself who have been buying music from when CDs (and LPs for that matter) are the the bulk of our collection there's little benefit other than syncing photos, etc.

I had about 1000 cds which I ripped and now have on a 2TB (along with my entire DVD collection - not blu-ray). I'm using about 1.5 tb (plus I have two backup drives just in case).

From that - I would guess that MAYBE 500 megs at MOST is from music purchased through iTunes. And that's being incredibly generous.

 

[pubwvj]

• 10GB Additional, $20/year
• 20GB Additional, $40/year
• 50GB Additional, $100/year

Linear pricing. Interesting. Boring. Why not simply say $20/10GB/yr That would be simpler.

Normally as the quantity goes up the price per unit goes down.

 

[FriarNurgle]

Are PhotoStream and Notes just going to be backed up and inaccessible?

 

[troop231]

I wish it would sync my notes. Those things are hard to get to -not on the iPhone - I don't use the Apple Mail app on my mac (is that the only place they are stored?).

But I "jot" things down on my phone all the time.

Oh and I want the old palm "graffiti" on my iPhone.

Are PhotoStream and Notes just going to be backed up and inaccessible?

Notes are synced within your iCloud's email:

 

[writingdevil]

Umm, no you can't. Please read the OP again. ..
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i did and was totally wrong...it's what i get for staying up past my bedtime (three days in a row...bad bad bad)