iPhone 13 Pro 120hz a bit overrated?

[Zaft]

Anyone else feel it’s a bit overrated on the phone? It’s more noticeable with the iPad for me.

I had previously thought it would spoil me as my wife has the 13PM and I have a 12PM. It definitely is nice but I don’t have an issue as my eyes adjust very quickly.

 

[tbuzleski]

I can notice the difference between my work iphone 11 and my 13 Pro but when I have to use my 11 it doesn’t bother me.

 

[con500]

I’ve heard comments saying it’s difficult going back to 60hz if they’ve tried 120hz but doing it every day between my 12PM and iPad I have genuinely never been caught off guard. I’ve never noticed a difference. I know there is a difference but My perception switching between devices isnt strong and I don’t find it jarring in any way

 

[HDFan]

Anyone else feel it’s a bit overrated on the phone? It’s more noticeable with the iPad for me.

Some people swear that it is essential. I don't notice the difference unless I specifically look for it.

 

[throAU]

The big thing about 120hz is that it can scale to 24, 30, 60 or 120 perfectly. Which means traditional content at say 24 fps will look right.

 

[Tsepz]

I’ve heard comments saying it’s difficult going back to 60hz if they’ve tried 120hz but doing it every day between my 12PM and iPad I have genuinely never been caught off guard. I’ve never noticed a difference. I know there is a difference but My perception switching between devices isnt strong and I don’t find it jarring in any way

I’m the same, go between my 11 Pro Max, Mate 40 Pro and iPad Pro all the time, that is 60Hz, 90hz and 120hz respectively and I am perfectly fine to go back to the 11 Pro Max, it’s still smooth and fast, doesn’t feel like a poorer experience.

 

[Spetsgruppa]

i have had phones with 120Hz screens and the only time i miss it is when i play games.And that if the game supports it... other than that im fine with 90Hz or 60Hz.

 

[Al Rukh]

Probably it is for casual users. But after using it for some time, my eyes are well-trained to notice the difference. Now that I have it on my MacBook, it’s hard to go back to anything that’s 60Hz.

It’s one of those things where you only know what you’re missing when you use it. It’s not a gimmick.

 

[Craigf56]

I couldn’t go back. I honestly don’t get how people can’t say the difference. However, I do think the difference is less noticeable on iPhones compared to Android as the touch latency is so good on non 120 hz handsets. I suspect that’s why it took Apple so long to make the change.

 

[Al Rukh]

I couldn’t go back. I honestly don’t get how people can’t say the difference. However, I do think the difference is less noticeable on iPhones compared to Android as the touch latency is so good on non 120 hz handsets. I suspect that’s why it took Apple so long to make the change.

I think pricing on devices with 120Hz plays a huge role in forming an opinion. I’m sure a lot of people can tell the difference but not many would think it’s worth the extra dollars to pay to get them.

 

[snipr125]

120hz refresh rate is nice to have. Its shameful by Apple that they deem it a Pro feature, when £200 Android phones have it as standard. They should have at least put 90hz displays on the Non Pro iphones though considering £100 Android phones come with it (no joke).

 

[Hal~9000]

Anyone else feel it’s a bit overrated on the phone? It’s more noticeable with the iPad for me.

I had previously thought it would spoil me as my wife has the 13PM and I have a 12PM. It definitely is nice but I don’t have an issue as my eyes adjust very quickly.

While don’t really care about the smoother visual differences of 60hz vs 120hz, from my understanding the LTPO panel of the 13 Pro allows for the refresh rate to go way down whenever you’re not actively moving things on the screen with your finger.

When you compare the iPhone 13 vs 13 Pro there seems to be a big difference in battery life due to this type of 120hz display, which is very much worth it for me 🙂

 

[unrigestered]

60Hz is good and IMO shouldn't prevent anyone from working perfectly fine on such a system

120Hz is the premium, much smoother option though

 

[perezr10]

I thought about selling my 13 Pro Max because it was so freakin’ expensive and I still had my 11 Pro Max. But after a couple of days using the 60hz screen again I decided that the 120hz was worth the money. I love ProMotion.

But I don’t deny that it‘s not a big deal for some people. If someone is colorblind, they won’t appreciate vivid colors. Likewise, there are some people with eyes that are incapable of perceiving the 120hz difference.

 

[The Game 161]

Nah it’s a must have for me…using XR as a spare the difference for me is massive

 

[unrigestered]

Likewise, there are some people with eyes that are incapable of perceiving the 120hz difference.

i think that it's actually not the 120Hz per se, it's just that it hides the imperfections and hiccups in scrolling way better, as games at a rock solid 60fps already are already looking perfectly smooth to me, unless we're talking about some super fast first person shooter played via mouse & keyboard.
in fact, those 60fps (if they actually are perfectly solid) look more smooth to me, than ProMotion on the iOS or MacOS GUIs

 

[Andeddu]

i think that it's actually not the 120Hz per se, it's just that it hides the imperfections and hiccups in scrolling way better, as games at a rock solid 60fps already are already looking perfectly smooth to me, unless we're talking about some super fast first person shooter played via mouse & keyboard.
in fact, those 60fps (if they actually are perfectly solid) look more smooth to me, than ProMotion on the iOS or MacOS GUIs

Yep, it depends on the input. 120hz is pointless on something like a console with a controller input because you cannot carry out sudden movements like when using a mouse. That is why 30fps on a console is perfectly fine whereas PC gamers tend to aim for 60fps.

 

[unrigestered]

Oh, 30fps definitely aren't as fluid as 60fps, even on consoles, so 60fps should be the target for perfect fluidity.
But most developers prefer more graphical fidelity over super smooth framerates.
which of course is also fine, since some slower paced genres like RPGs or adventure games don't benefit as much from super smoothness as arena shooters, fighting games or racing games, but from better graphics for better the atmosphere

 

[maternidad]

I used to use my iPad almost exclusively, and when I switched to a 60Hz device, it was very obvious. It was like switching between 60 and 30 hertz for me. Then, I began to use 60Hz displays more, and that difference, although still very noticeable, largely went away.

 

[Andeddu]

Oh, 30fps definitely aren't as fluid as 60fps, even on consoles, so 60fps should be the target for perfect fluidity.
But most developers prefer more graphical fidelity over super smooth framerates.
which of course is also fine, since some slower paced genres like RPGs or adventure games don't benefit as much from super smoothness as arena shooters, fighting games or racing games, but from better graphics for better the atmosphere

Although the difference is noticeable, it’s not as pronounced on consoles which is why 30fps is serviceable and the target for most developers.

Consoles are limited so graphical fidelity is targeted over frame-rate. I personally prefer high quality graphics over frame-rate so as long as I can get a stable 30fps on a PS5 title with PC grade graphics, I am happy.

 

[ndouglas]

Scrolling along this thread with my (I think?) 120hz ipad pro 2021, it does look nice. I still don’t really understand what I’m looking for or seeing though. Perhaps it’s like “audiophiles” who can hear this or that difference between airpods pro and some other wired, way nicer brand/model headphones. For me personally, I can’t really say what if any difference is here in my 120hz ipad compared to my iphone (SE 2020) and 16” macbook pro 2019, both of which I think don’t have the 120hz. I suppose it’s a good thing for me to not be able to see it, and thus in turn not be annoyed by my non-120hz devices…?

 

[snipr125]

Although the difference is noticeable, it’s not as pronounced on consoles which is why 30fps is serviceable and the target for most developers.

Consoles are limited so graphical fidelity is targeted over frame-rate. I personally prefer high quality graphics over frame-rate so as long as I can get a stable 30fps on a PS5 title with PC grade graphics, I am happy.

30 FPS was fine on the previous gen consoles, but on the PS5 and Xbox Series S or X, everyone is expecting 60 FPS. Im playing Elder scrolls 4 oblivion on the Series S which has been updated to 60fps and its basically like a whole new game now, compared to when released in 2007.

 

[Andeddu]

30 FPS was fine on the previous gen consoles, but on the PS5 and Xbox Series S or X, everyone is expecting 60 FPS. Im playing Elder scrolls 4 oblivion on the Series S which has been updated to 60fps and its basically like a whole new game now, compared to when released in 2007.

I expect 60fps or higher on older or cross gen titles, yes. Once the new and far more demanding engines are out we will see current gen consoles drop back down to 30fps once again.

 

[jcorbin]

Just went from a 13 pro to a SE3 and scrolling isn’t as smooth but I don’t think it’s worth the heft of the bigger phones. If they had pro motion on the minis I might have had a harder time deciding between the mini and the SE3

 

[con500]

Scrolling along this thread with my (I think?) 120hz ipad pro 2021, it does look nice. I still don’t really understand what I’m looking for or seeing though. Perhaps it’s like “audiophiles” who can hear this or that difference between airpods pro and some other wired, way nicer brand/model headphones. For me personally, I can’t really say what if any difference is here in my 120hz ipad compared to my iphone (SE 2020) and 16” macbook pro 2019, both of which I think don’t have the 120hz. I suppose it’s a good thing for me to not be able to see it, and thus in turn not be annoyed by my non-120hz devices…?

This is similar to my experience. I have both 60 and 120hz but I only ever notice the difference if I’m focusing on the difference if that makes sense. I’m only aware right now because I’m reading, scrolling a thread that’s discussing the difference. Otherwise I’m none the wiser