120Hz + new faster scrolling in Safari must be amazing

Discussion in 'iPad' started by bryanrs, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. bryanrs macrumors newbie

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    I'm not anti-app but I'm pretty much always in Safari on my iPad 4th gen. I'm getting the new iPad Pro next week and it just occurred to me, between the 120Hz display and the new faster scrolling coming to Safari in iOS 11, scrolling in Safari must be dramatically different. I can't wait to try it! Has anyone here downloaded iOS 11 beta onto their new iPad Pro? What's the scrolling like?
     
  2. jschu22 macrumors regular

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    I haven’t noticed much difference between 10 and 11, can’t tell you now since I don’t have access to 10 anymore, but it’s so much better than previous iPads. You can now slowly scroll while reading and not feel like you suddenly need glasses while the text moves.
     
  3. jterp7 macrumors 6502a

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    the other thought is that your laptop/desktop screens will now annoy as well since mac doesn't natively do 120hz. PCs have had this for some time now of course.
     
  4. punchwalk macrumors regular

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    I had this concern when I bought my 10.5, but my MBP doesn't seem any worse so far.
     
  5. ManyThreads macrumors member

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    Its nice to have, but over-hyped IMHO. The most noticeable difference is with the pencil and in some games that can support it. You still can't read anything while scrolling unless it's really slow, otherwise it still blurs the words. If you use your finger to 'anchor' a word and then scroll up/down it is slightly smoother than normal. YMMV of course.
     
  6. ipodlover77, Jun 23, 2017
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    ipodlover77 macrumors 65816

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    Agreed. After reading all the posts of "I dont think i can go back" and other great hyperboles I readied myself for a crazy experience when I visited the apple store.

    While I THINK i see a difference, i can't outright say that its day and night. I don't have an iPad anymore but when I swiped left and right on my phone compared to the 10.5, I wasn't really blown away, needless to say, I don't have any trouble going back to the iPhone after "experiencing the amazing ProMotion."

    Disclaimer, I use a 160hz monitor for my PC and I don't really tell a difference from my Mac so maybe I'm just not sensitive to this stuff.

    DEFINITELY not a bigger or even a CLOSE jump in comparison from previous gen screens to retina screens though.
     
  7. Trogdor796 macrumors regular

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    I think you just must not be sensitive to high refresh rates like you said.

    I have a 144hz monitor for my gaming PC, and currently have a 12" MB and iPhone 7+. I went in to try the new iPad Pros at my Best Buy last week, and the difference is immediately noticeable. Definitely night and day, just like when I upgraded from my old 60hz PC monitor. I'm planning on selling my 12" MB and getting either a 12.9 or 10.5 iPad Pro. Not just because of the screen, but that certainly helps.
     
  8. The Game 161 macrumors G5

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    It's a real noticeable difference from the pro 9.7

    I would struggle going back to ab iPad at that speed.
     
  9. scupking macrumors 6502a

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    Was nice but not worth paying $700 over my air 2. Just returned mine.
     
  10. urkel macrumors 68030

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    What’s most interesting about this 120hz hype is that its only noticeable to people who were told what to look for. Ive been to check it out a few times and none of my family or friends understood what I was talking about until I demonstrated it multiple times. I’m like “See... watch, its smoother when you swipe screens” or “Look at the text as I scroll”. Eventually they’d see it (or just give in so I’d shut up) but it definitely wasn’t something that an uninformed user would pick up without assistance.

    ProMotion is a great evolutionary spec bump but I really think it’s one of the most obnoxiously over-dramatized features we’ve seen yet.
     
  11. rowspaxe macrumors 68000

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    Similar experience. Promotion is a nothing burger
     
  12. jonnyb098 macrumors 68020

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    I wouldn't say its overhyped. Its actually quite amazing how responsive everything on the new iPads is. Using other iPads or even my phone now make it feel slow in comparison. ProMotion is one of those things (like retina) that once you see and experience it, it makes everything else just feel old and slow. Not everyone is going to be blown away but its definitely really really cool and will be the new standard going forward.
     
  13. upandown macrumors regular

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    Definitely not overhyped. I really hope Apple implements it in the rest of their products soon. I want a new mbp with it.

    Watching movies at 24hz is a lot more enjoyable.
     
  14. bryanrs thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's not Apples 'fault' that the 120Hz isn't in-your-face better, the issue is that LCD's have poor response time, that's absolutely the bottleneck in the new iPad Pros. I imagine the OLED iPad (comes out next year?) at 120Hz will be shocking. I would happily put up with a heavier iPad if it had an OLED display, it would be worth the tradeoff
     
  15. jonnyb098 macrumors 68020

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    It looks like the response time is still better on the new pro models in comparison to last year. But yeah once you get to OLED everything at ALL framerates will look better .
     
  16. Ixidor macrumors regular

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    I caved and upgraded from my 9.7 IPP by using my carrier's tablet upgrade program.

    All I can say is that the extra RAM and screen size makes the biggest difference. I initially thought the screen size wasn't a big deal, but it turns out to be especially when you use the iPad for multitasking or as an external monitor.

    ProMotion is very noticeable and I love it. But I didn't mind my older IPP's 60 Hz screen either. ProMotion is more like icing on the cake if that makes sense.
     
  17. Roy G Biv macrumors 6502

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    I finally checked out a 10.5" at Best Buy. I was ready to be impressed, but I could not tell a difference while scrolling nytimes.com in Safari. I was surprised by how light it is and small compared to the 12.9".

    I was thinking of selling my 12.9" to buy a 10.5", but now I think I'd miss the bigger screen more.
     
  18. jterp7 macrumors 6502a

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    After using a mini for so long the 10.5 seems huge. Matter of perspective hah
     
  19. gobikerider macrumors 65832

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    Uh that new one was also over 2x more powerful and had better battery life.
     
  20. itsmilo macrumors 65816

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    I see no difference and TrueTone is annoying so i turned that off.
     

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