I've never seen this video till today but it shows a very impressive comparison. This is a good for someone considering the new MacBook Pro. This is making me want to get one!
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$1299 vs $1799 2020 MacBook Pro 13" - Full Comparison!
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2020 $1799 MBP Unusual Benchmark Performance
The new $1799 13-inch MBP has some unexpected benchmarking results so far, according to the video MaxTech made comparing it to the 2020 $1299 MBP. In the Cinebench R20 CPU benchmark, it seems like Apple is letting the $1799 MBP draw more power than the $1299 MBP, so the more expensive model is...
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It might have been where I saw it because it was on the forums. I think this comparison video deserves a thread of it's own. He gets very detailed and even take the back off to show inside. I haven't seen a comparison like this or even a review that is this detailed.Already in a thread on page 1.
2020 $1799 MBP Unusual Benchmark Performance
The new $1799 13-inch MBP has some unexpected benchmarking results so far, according to the video MaxTech made comparing it to the 2020 $1299 MBP. In the Cinebench R20 CPU benchmark, it seems like Apple is letting the $1799 MBP draw more power than the $1299 MBP, so the more expensive model is...
If you have any other videos that show stuff like this link them because the YouTube algorithm hasn't shown me anything like this.
Edit my bad it is a thread based on this... I don't know how I missed it. Maybe the title doesn't really imply what is going on in the video.
Yeah it looks like someone already posted it but the title of the thread makes it sound like a question about benchmark problems. This is by far the best detailed review I've seen. I didn't think the internals would be this significantly different.
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They sound the same but there's a huge difference.
I think that's what @Philpug is saying - if you going to go up to 16GB memory and 512GB storage - you might as well go 10th gen.
Which I agree with.
I'm actually thinking of ordering the base model. The single-core performance is similar to my 2018 MBP i7, and the multi-core is very similar between the 8th and 10th gen.
Definitely different story if you need GPU power though! (I do not)
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💯 % on that. As a value proposition, once you spec out to 16GB memory and 512GB storage, you might as well go 10th gen.
In saying that, I think I might go base-model. It's pretty reasonable and if you don't need GPU, and single-core power it's kind of 'good enough'.
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Well if you're buying the base model you'd be silly to spec it out. You would buy it in that configuration. I think the target audience is someone who needs a bit more power than the Air but doesn't really need the power or want to spend the $$$$ for the MacBook Pro. At $1299 it's not a bad deal. I would go for the higher end model but what can I say I like fancy things 😂I think that's what @Philpug is saying - if you going to go up to 16GB memory and 512GB storage - you might as well go 10th gen.
Which I agree with.
I'm actually thinking of ordering the base model. The single-core performance is similar to my 2018 MBP i7, and the multi-core is very similar between the 8th and 10th gen.
Definitely different story if you need GPU power though! (I do not)
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💯 % on that. As a value proposition, once you spec out to 16GB memory and 512GB storage, you might as well go 10th gen.
In saying that, I think I might go base-model. It's pretty reasonable and if you don't need GPU, and single-core power it's kind of 'good enough'.
Cheers ✌
Fair call too on the 'fancy things' ! Sometimes it's a case of why not
My reasoning is next year there maybe a new model and don't want to spend top-dollar just at the moment. Depreciation on them will be brutal - will definitely being 'Diminishing value' depreciation on this asset
Yeah there is the unicorn 14" MacBook Pro. If that doesn't appear before then end of this year I'll probably end up buying the 13". I don't consider depreciation when it comes to buying computers. If you sell it used six months out of the package you'll get about 50-60% depending on how long you want to drag it out. With Windows laptops it's much less than that. This is from personal experience. It's better just to keep them till they're no longer practical then either recycle or put them in the old computer collection.Fair call too on the 'fancy things' ! Sometimes it's a case of why not
My reasoning is next year there maybe a new model and don't want to spend top-dollar just at the moment. Depreciation on them will be brutal - will definitely being 'Diminishing value' depreciation on this asset
Do you really think they'll release a 14" this year after this update? I honestly can't see it so you're looking at least a year I think - maybe next year WWDC and then a few months after that for availability.
I don't mean 'depreciation' as in what they are worth solely on the second-hand market but in conjunctuon given that if the 14" comes out I think the 13" will be hit hard in value too. I was also referring to actual asset depreciation as an accounting function within my business. Diminishing value depreciation means I can depreciate it more in the first year compared to the linear 'straight-line' method over many years. This means it isn't such a loss if you sell within 2 years (you cannot depreciate an asset in the year you dispose of it).
You are so right on windows laptops being worth so little in the secondary market. I typically aim for 65-75% on my Apple laptops, which (depending on the model), means selling within 2-4 years max.
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I don't see them releasing the 14" till sometime next year either. I was hoping for a dedicated GPU and better screen but that didn't happen. It's still a good laptop and I'd say the best one since the Touch Bar came out. I don't think they'll ever make one as good as my old 13" but such is life. I understand if you're buying a laptop for business then depreciation is an issue but I'll be buying it for personal use.
I don't need a new computer but I could use one...my current one will go to one of my contractors..he needs one. I really want the 14"...but waiting doesn't guarentee it either. I agree with some here, I seriously doubt we will see it this year even IF there is one coming down the road.
In my case, I do need the 512 storage. I have almost 300K used my my 2014/8G/500K and I expect to keep this computer at least as long.
In my case, I do need the 512 storage. I have almost 300K used my my 2014/8G/500K and I expect to keep this computer at least as long.
Don't forget about the MacBook Air. If you don't need the continuous CPU power of the Pro it looks very nice, has longer battery life, and is cheaper.
I just upgraded to a 2020 MacBook Pro 13 inch base model. I previously had an Early 2013 15 inch MacBook Pro with largely the same base model specs as the 13 inch that I replaced it with.
Having used the 15 inch for 7 years, going down to a 13 inch is still pretty jarring. But in nearly every way, I feel like the 13 inch 2020 model is a more premium upgrade and well worth the $1500 price tag with taxes and Apple Care so far.
Hell, if my 15 inch could handle what I threw at it, I don’t think the performance on the 13 inch could fair much worse, given technological, hardware, and even software updates within the last 7 years.
I thought about the higher end 13 inch model, but honestly, I’m planning on keeping this model for 3-4 years and may upgrade to a more powerful machine at that time- or even keep this one depending on my situation at the time. Going down to the more portable machine is pretty weird, but it’s also really portable, which is a welcome change.
So far, I don’t have many issues. I’ve owned this since Monday, so I haven’t had it too long. But i do like this machine so far!
Having used the 15 inch for 7 years, going down to a 13 inch is still pretty jarring. But in nearly every way, I feel like the 13 inch 2020 model is a more premium upgrade and well worth the $1500 price tag with taxes and Apple Care so far.
Hell, if my 15 inch could handle what I threw at it, I don’t think the performance on the 13 inch could fair much worse, given technological, hardware, and even software updates within the last 7 years.
I thought about the higher end 13 inch model, but honestly, I’m planning on keeping this model for 3-4 years and may upgrade to a more powerful machine at that time- or even keep this one depending on my situation at the time. Going down to the more portable machine is pretty weird, but it’s also really portable, which is a welcome change.
So far, I don’t have many issues. I’ve owned this since Monday, so I haven’t had it too long. But i do like this machine so far!
Thanks for your experience so far!
I am also moving from a 15" to a 13". How have you found it 'jarring'? I dislike the size of the 15" -- it just isn't very portable. It's not even usable on your lap let alone on the road.
Interested to hear more on your experience. I'm literally about to pull the trigger on the base model 2020 13" MBP
I just feel like the screen real-estate on the 15 inch is just so good that going down a bit to a size a bit bigger than the iPad Pro is a bit odd to me, after 7 years of the same 15 inch screen the last 4/5 days of a 13 inch screen - which honestly feels like a more premium screen with the True Tone -needs a bit more time to get used to.
So far just making sure I have all the basic programs installed and with my Apple ID signed in, etc iCloud account connected... ive heard the fan a few times and the machine has run hot, but I don’t see this as abnormal, since my 15 inch does the same thing with that workload as well. It’s a bit more snappier with these tasks though. I feel the fan/heat issue wont bother me and it’s just the price to pay for a Mac these days... overtime it might improve since the workload will be different.
I set up my remote desktop access for my work from home set up and it didn't get too hot and I feel like the machine breezed through connecting compared to the 15 inch, which was already a <15 second process on that machine. I also ran some Apple Music at the same time, which is something that's pretty much always on regardless of task. No speed issues or lag issues at all. I feel like the machine was 20 times faster than the connection I'm using. Compared with the 15 inch where I feel the connection sucked and the machine was on the slower end of handling it.
I'm using my 15 inch again today for work because I'm trying to migrate everything and wipe this machine so I could sell it. Figured that I could do both today ha.
My original thought was the MBA before this new MBP was released but the price difference isn't as great any more plus the MBP, Going to 16G and the better processor, it is only $150 difference. Plus I don't need the Nth degree of light weight, the new MBP is still lighter and thinner than my 2014 but it is still tempting.
I've been using my 15" at home too (eww err) and the screen real estate is nice. Since the working from home deal (since Mid-March!), I am finding the 2nd large screen (i took one from the office) has been irreplaceable, so think I am going to get one for home full-time!
The retina and true-tone screen's have a premium quality to them that's for sure.
Thanks for taking the time to put down your experience and how you're finding it!
Enjoy!
I have been using a 4K 43" TV as a second monitor at home. While they might not have Retina level clarity, you can pick them up reasonably at Costco or Sam's Club.I've been using my 15" at home too (eww err) and the screen real estate is nice. Since the working from home deal (since Mid-March!), I am finding the 2nd large screen (i took one from the office) has been irreplaceable, so think I am going to get one for home full-time!
The retina and true-tone screen's have a premium quality to them that's for sure.
Thanks for taking the time to put down your experience and how you're finding it!
Enjoy!
That's a good idea on the TV option as they are usually cheaper! There's no way a 40"+ would fit on my desk without it feeling like being in the front row here 😂
I have heard of costco but not this "Sam's club" (not based in the US)
I may be interested in replacing my 2016 12” MacBook, for a 13” Macbook Pro. However I have doubts about which model to choose: if the base model with RAM upgraded to 16GB or if the 4 thunderbolt port model.
I don’t do any video editing, only regular tasks tasks (productivity), web, some programming (hobby) and some image editing. However the important detail here is that I plan to purchase a computer to keep the most time possible.
I think that having 16GB of RAM is mandatory in order to “future proof” the computer.
Between these two models there is more difference in terms of GPU than CPU power. Will the extra GPU power be important in “future proofing” the computer?
Is the 4tb ports worth +495€ for the configurations I indicated above?
Thanks for the help
I don’t do any video editing, only regular tasks tasks (productivity), web, some programming (hobby) and some image editing. However the important detail here is that I plan to purchase a computer to keep the most time possible.
I think that having 16GB of RAM is mandatory in order to “future proof” the computer.
Between these two models there is more difference in terms of GPU than CPU power. Will the extra GPU power be important in “future proofing” the computer?
Is the 4tb ports worth +495€ for the configurations I indicated above?
Thanks for the help
Any MacBook Pro will be considerably faster than your 12” MacBook, and would work well with what you described. The GPU is a bigger deal for video editing than the tasks you describe. Most of the time, the GPU isn’t active when you are just browsing, using Office/iWork, etc.
Hey mate - one of the computers my partner ended up replacing as a portable laptop was a MacBook 12". She went with a MacBook Air and couldn't be happier. The MBA is much much snappier than the MB 12, and whilst not completely silent (the MB 12" is fanless), it's very near silent. It certainly uses it's fans a lot less than my 2018 MacBook Pro i7 on video calls!
Nothing is really future-profile. Given your use-case the MacBook Air might well be sufficient. We went with the i3 for the battery life. Something to consider anyway, and the Air is $300 cheaper (or more with ed discount), and arguably has a more modern CPU.
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p.s. I am about to change my 15" MBP to a 13" so happy to report back on the differences in performance. I'm changing the spec though so delivery is a couple of weeks away at least.