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13.3-inch iBook?
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As long as the 13" iBs donts have lines I may have to go for it.
If they do a 15" PB Intel without the crappy screen that a definate sale.
If they do a 15" PB Intel without the crappy screen that a definate sale.
1280x720? That's exactly HD 720p resolution, so is Apple finally moving from 16:10 wide screen to 16:9?
I want an 8" Powerbook
1024x768
total size of 10" x 7" x .75"
2lb max.
All i need is a Mac to offload my pictures onto when traveling
1024x768
total size of 10" x 7" x .75"
2lb max.
All i need is a Mac to offload my pictures onto when traveling
dernhelm said:
I agree. There's no way in heaven or hell for Apple to drop the 12 incher without a suitable replacement. Apple has always been the master of the design/feature ratio in industry (sorry, 10" subnotebooks are just too small for any serious work).
But Apple needs to streamline its production, and this means dropping one or two models from the portable lineup, this is for sure.
The 14" iBook is an obvious filler which will be gone in no time; and at the 12"/13" level, it will merge the PB/iBook line to create a well-performing yet cheapo small notebook for the masses.
Intel chips allow for it, new low-end GPUs allow for it, and Apple, with a wonderfully new form-factor, will put the cherry on top of the icecream...just wait and see.
But PULLLLEASE, put the backlit keyboard in there as well, will ya???
Sunrunner said:That postulation is up for debate. After all, most of the components in the mini's are laptop components... mostly adapted iBook stuff.
There is really no debate needed. The mini is a desktop system. Look at the Apple Store page. Its listed next to the iMac and Powermac.
No more 12" PB???? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
My 12" PB is absolutely the best computer I've ever had -- including my
dual G5. Portable, capable, everything I need for the road and for home.
Let's hope they come up with something equally portable -- but the form
factor (including the screen) works really well for me. I'm not sure I want
something too much wider or taller. Lighter and faster would be ok, of course.
My 12" PB is absolutely the best computer I've ever had -- including my
dual G5. Portable, capable, everything I need for the road and for home.
Let's hope they come up with something equally portable -- but the form
factor (including the screen) works really well for me. I'm not sure I want
something too much wider or taller. Lighter and faster would be ok, of course.
Likewise
I have been using a 12" PowerBook for 3 years and completely agree. It's portable, tough and has never complained about being thrown into my rucksack. Treatment that has seen many a PC notebook I've had refuse to work completely. Those that are looking for a £400 notebook I don't think realise what they are getting when they buy a Mac. How many extras like printing PDFs from any program and the new spotlight feature that have made my life researching for an English PhD a pleasure. I still smile when I sit down at my Mac for the day, something I never did at a PC.
vaprof said:
I have been using a 12" PowerBook for 3 years and completely agree. It's portable, tough and has never complained about being thrown into my rucksack. Treatment that has seen many a PC notebook I've had refuse to work completely. Those that are looking for a £400 notebook I don't think realise what they are getting when they buy a Mac. How many extras like printing PDFs from any program and the new spotlight feature that have made my life researching for an English PhD a pleasure. I still smile when I sit down at my Mac for the day, something I never did at a PC.
A 13.3" widescreen PowerBook/iBook would be as tall if not a little shorter than the 12" and a fraction wider. With new potentially cooler chips it could be thinner and lighter than before. I think it's a good move. I'd love a widescreen as portable as my 12" iBook. A 1280x768 or even 1280x800 screen would be awesome in such a small package. Especially if they load the PowerBook up with all the goodies from it's bigger brothers, the backlit keyboard, PC Card slot, decent graphics card with DVI and S-Video out. Who knows, they may even be able to find room for a second RAM slot?a456 said:
13.3" 1280x800 Widescreen Intel PowerBook with 2GB RAM and a 128MB Graphics Card, backlit keyboard, PC Card slot, dual layer SuperDrive, Screen spanning via DVI out and TV via S-Video and some new half decent built in speakers. Sounds like my next Mac, can't wait to see what 3 more years will turn it into.
shen & Stella, what does any of this OSX-burning/text-editor debate have to do with a 13.3" iBook rumor? If you want to debate OS features go to the "Mac OS X" forum or something....all of MR is off-topic
I can't stand tablet PCs either, but a tablet Mac I bet I could get used to. Imagine having OS X with the input abilities of a Wacom tablet save for you're writing on the screen with the ability to launch apps and output to a projector for presentations! Amazing! It probably won't be the greatest product for home/consumer use, but I bet businesses will eat it up as long as it functions at a decent performance spec given its size/cost. I'd love one for taking notes in class and quick notes in the field while working. If it was small enough (say 8" screen) you could easily take it with you shooting (photography) or any other 'field' related study for taking notes or as a portable hdd that gives you an 8" preview ability
I just can't see people using a 19/20 *Book of any sort, that is just massive! Take a look at standard briefcases/backpacks/etc, 20" would hardly fit, if at all! Not to mention issues with power (although larger size does commonly mean larger battery, but still).
On the other end of your argument, 7/8/9 seems incredibly small. At that point you are basically talking about a 'large' PDA, which if that is what you want then perhaps that is a solution, but as a full-power laptop in that size, keep dreaming. I'm not a fan of the ultra-small 10.x" laptops because they all use low-power processors w/ integrated graphics, small hard-drives, and low amounts of ram. In a platform of that size, I can't see getting too many features. You are essentially taking a Mac mini, adding a screen, a battery, and probably a couple other portable essentials, and wanting it to stay the same size....I just don't see that.
mongoos150 said:
I can't stand tablet PCs either
, but a tablet Mac I bet I could get used to. Imagine having OS X with the input abilities of a Wacom tablet save for you're writing on the screen with the ability to launch apps and output to a projector for presentations! Amazing! It probably won't be the greatest product for home/consumer use, but I bet businesses will eat it up as long as it functions at a decent performance spec given its size/cost. I'd love one for taking notes in class and quick notes in the field while working. If it was small enough (say 8" screen) you could easily take it with you shooting (photography) or any other 'field' related study for taking notes or as a portable hdd that gives you an 8" preview ability strange days said:oh well, if they REALLY come out with a 20" powerbook, i'd sell my monitor and computer and go for it ! ( well, if i have enough money, that is... ). Otherwise, 13'3" is just the sweetest choice and about time apple designers bow to the sexy lines of widescreen laptops ( ibook or powerbook, whatever ). On a side note, i'd love a 7,8,9" widescreen laptop as well...
I just can't see people using a 19/20 *Book of any sort, that is just massive! Take a look at standard briefcases/backpacks/etc, 20" would hardly fit, if at all! Not to mention issues with power (although larger size does commonly mean larger battery, but still).
On the other end of your argument, 7/8/9 seems incredibly small. At that point you are basically talking about a 'large' PDA, which if that is what you want then perhaps that is a solution, but as a full-power laptop in that size, keep dreaming. I'm not a fan of the ultra-small 10.x" laptops because they all use low-power processors w/ integrated graphics, small hard-drives, and low amounts of ram. In a platform of that size, I can't see getting too many features. You are essentially taking a Mac mini, adding a screen, a battery, and probably a couple other portable essentials, and wanting it to stay the same size....I just don't see that.
Chundles said:
A 13.3" 1280x800 widescreen Intel chipped PowerBook w/ 2GB of RAM sounds awesome! 128MB graphics is probably overkill for this platform, although if they can fit it in great....but just an updated chipset and 64MB of GDDR3 or something
, I'd settle. Dual-layer or single-layer SD is a must, a full-size DVI port would be nice, with included converters to s-video and vga for those times when other ports are needed. Speakers aren't a concern to me, I'd rather forgo them all-together if it meant a smaller casing....I use earphones with my laptop more than the speakers.Give or take a few specs, this machines sounds completely amazing. If it comes in at the current price-point, perhaps $100 to $200 less, I'll be in line.
That's exactly what I want, regardless of the backlit keyboard. I'd like FW800 too, as it is a 'pro' machine. Definitely want the extra graphics, it's been 64 for long enough. I definitely wouldn't hold my breath for PCMCIA in a laptop of that size.Chundles said:
Chundles said:
That would be some sweet resolution on a display of that size!! I would love to see that system come true. It boggles my mind how crisp and deep the iPod earbuds sound, but the built in speakers on the Powerbooks have always sounded like a5$.
Add dual-link DVI (for the 30" ACD) and FireWire 800, then its my next PowerBook!Chundles said:
solaris said:Add dual-link DVI (for the 30" ACD) and FireWire 800, then its my next PowerBook!
oh my gosh me too!
I have always felt that the 12" powebook is a joke (display resolution being the only reason) and the 15" is just a tad too big...
the 14" ibook seemed really weird, like someone just "up'd" the scale of the 12" ibook in every dimension...it just seemed a bit off...
The new resolution is all i need to push me over...
I just hope for an increase in speed as well.... question: I take it that everyone believes the new i(ntel)book is definately going to be slower than the current powerbooks...right?
jeez, we know the probable processor, the screen sizes, and everything. The only thing not known is if it will come with a black option!
vaprof said:
Isn't there a limit on how long your signature can be? Like 6 lines or something...
Well, I think the 12" PB is ridiouclsy close to the 12" IB. I mean besides screen spanning and 1.5 Ghz, the differences are non existent. And those are still very minor differences. I think 1 12" notebook is completely fine with me since the lower one wouldn't be held back by a more expenive. I actually would have taken a 12" IB and wished I did since battery life is couple extra hours, better reception, well that was when they were 1.2 Ghz.... its a toughie. All I can say is that Apple is merely making it harder with two such close notebooks. Bettery battery life and reception or better performane and nomincally ebtter screen hacking; hmmm.... ohh wait the white one is cheaper, wrap it up will u?Truffy said:
Instead of 12" iB and 13" iB replacing the 14", they should drop the 14" iBook and use the 13" idea to replace the 12" powerbook.
We then get something like this:
12" iBook, 1.6GHz Pentium M Dothan system -> $1599
64MB Graphics, FW400, USB2, DVI, Superdrive optional
RAM: DDR, 1GB built in and a user slot
13.3" Widescreen Powerbook, Dual 1.6GHz Yonah System ->$2499
64 or 128MB Graphics, FW400 & FW800, USB2, Dual Link DVI, Superdrive standard, possible backlit keyboard.
RAM: DDR2, 512MB built in + 1 user slot.
15" and 17" Powerbooks, Dual 1.8GHz Yonah Systems ->$?
128MB Graphics, PCMCIA, FW400 & FW800, USB2, Dual Link DVI, Superdrive standard, backlit keyboards.
RAM: DDR2, 512MB built in + 1 user slot
We then get something like this:
12" iBook, 1.6GHz Pentium M Dothan system -> $1599
64MB Graphics, FW400, USB2, DVI, Superdrive optional
RAM: DDR, 1GB built in and a user slot
13.3" Widescreen Powerbook, Dual 1.6GHz Yonah System ->$2499
64 or 128MB Graphics, FW400 & FW800, USB2, Dual Link DVI, Superdrive standard, possible backlit keyboard.
RAM: DDR2, 512MB built in + 1 user slot.
15" and 17" Powerbooks, Dual 1.8GHz Yonah Systems ->$?
128MB Graphics, PCMCIA, FW400 & FW800, USB2, Dual Link DVI, Superdrive standard, backlit keyboards.
RAM: DDR2, 512MB built in + 1 user slot
