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Let me rephrase.

The entry-level price of the 2022 MBA just increased by 20%, and everyone is celebrating the price of the 2022 MBA as the better buy between the 2022 MBA and 2022 MBP.
Is it a 20% price increase? The 2022 MBA is not a replacement for the 2020 MBA but rather a different, higher end model.

As to whether the 2022 MBA is a better buy than the 2022 MBP that should be debated on the configuration of the two systems and not that the 2022 MBA saw, as you say, a 20% price increase. That's irrelevant to the comparison.

> As for entry level isn't the 2020 generation MBA still being offered at its original price?

That's my point. In 2020, you got the latest MBA hardware for 1k. In 2022, the latest MBA hardware is now 1.2k. They have diverted attention from that by retaining the older 2020 MBA model at the 1k price point.

Very effective strategy of boiling the frogs slowly.
Only if you consider the 2022 a replacement for the 2020. Since the 2020 is still being offered I think it could be argued the 2022 is not a replacement but a different model.
 
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They posted scores from Monica Chin at The Verge (https://www.theverge.com/23177674/apple-macbook-pro-m2-2022-review-price-specs-features). But they didn't do a comparison to show the percentage differences. Here they are.

I left out the 4k Premiere export time, which was actually slower on the M2, because Chin wrote: "...the M1 actually finished first in most cases because the M2 kept getting caught on certain graphics. I don’t want to read too much into that because Premiere can be finicky with that kind of stuff, so it’s always hard to know exactly what’s going on."

The relatively small improvement in Cinebench R23 is consistent with reports that CB is poorly optimized for AS. Though the fact that the R23 Multicore looped (30 mins) had the same average score as a one-time run speaks well for the M2's thermals, at least on a CPU-only load.

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Did I read the measurements correctly ? It looks like 4K export is degraded vs 2020 model.
Yeah, those are correct. They came from Monica Chin's article in The Verge. Chin wrote: "...the M1 actually finished first in most cases [for 4k Adobe Premiere export] because the M2 kept getting caught on certain graphics. I don’t want to read too much into that because Premiere can be finicky with that kind of stuff, so it’s always hard to know exactly what’s going on."
 
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"Viewed in a vacuum"

very well said !

although for us eu users,the mbp 13 m1 is a better deal if u can find it . oh and apple increased the price of the m2 mbp btw, it's 1600 euros compared to mbp m1's 1450 ...
 
Cinebench single core is only about 4% faster. What does it says? That performance cores are in fact less powerfull then in M1 but more energy efficient and they are faster only because higher frequency? It was know before that design of A15 was focused on power consumption so it would make sense. Cinebench is purely CPU benchmark.
 
Cinebench single core is only about 4% faster. What does it says? That performance cores are in fact less powerfull then in M1 but more energy efficient and they are faster only because higher frequency? It was know before that design of A15 was focused on power consumption so it would make sense. Cinebench is purely CPU benchmark.

Can we expect better sustained performance on the Air?

Regardless, I already have my mind made up on the 14” MacBook Pro. I just don’t need it since my 2012 15” rMBP still feels modern and well, so I can hold off for the M2 Pro chip which will probably admittedly be a minimal improvement.
 
Cinebench single core is only about 4% faster. What does it says? That performance cores are in fact less powerfull then in M1 but more energy efficient and they are faster only because higher frequency? It was know before that design of A15 was focused on power consumption so it would make sense. Cinebench is purely CPU benchmark.
It says that Cinebench isn't well-optimized for Apple Silicon, and thus shouldn't be used as a benchmark (this has been discussed on other threads). It will be interesting to see what Anandtech finds if they do a comparison with the SPEC CPU benchmarks but, for now, the comparative Geekbench 5 scores, which show a 12% SC performance increase, are probably a reasonable measure of the change.
 
Yeah, those are correct. They came from Monica Chin's article in The Verge. Chin wrote: "...the M1 actually finished first in most cases [for 4k Adobe Premiere export] because the M2 kept getting caught on certain graphics. I don’t want to read too much into that because Premiere can be finicky with that kind of stuff, so it’s always hard to know exactly what’s going on."
Thanks for the confirmation. We'll have to wait for recompilation of Premiere probably.
 
They posted scores from Monica Chin at The Verge (https://www.theverge.com/23177674/apple-macbook-pro-m2-2022-review-price-specs-features). But they didn't do a comparison to show the percentage differences. Here they are.

I left out the 4k Premiere export time, which was actually slower on the M2, because Chin wrote: "...the M1 actually finished first in most cases because the M2 kept getting caught on certain graphics. I don’t want to read too much into that because Premiere can be finicky with that kind of stuff, so it’s always hard to know exactly what’s going on."

The relatively small improvement in Cinebench R23 is consistent with reports that CB is poorly optimized for AS. Though the fact that the R23 Multicore looped (30 mins) had the same average score as a one-time run speaks well for the M2's thermals, at least on a CPU-only load.

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M2 is a great GPU update. The M2 Pro / Max are going to be interesting versitale chips. Imagine puttin M2 Pro on Apple TV. Apple could deliver a nice gaming experience with 10% of the power draw compared to Xbox or PS5. And 1/20 size. With these energy prices… Eco gaming.

I can see Macbook Pro with M2 Pro / Max chips to become a popular mobile machine learning developement tools. Apple has past two years improved support in this field a lot. Can they beat Nvidia in mobile computing field this year?
 
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It says that Cinebench isn't well-optimized for Apple Silicon, and thus shouldn't be used as a benchmark (this has been discussed on other threads). It will be interesting to see what Anandtech finds if they do a comparison with the SPEC CPU benchmarks but, for now, the comparative Geekbench 5 scores, which show a 12% SC performance increase, are probably a reasonable measure of the change.
Those 12 % are just frequency increase. GPU, especially with Metal 3, will be much more interesting improvements.
 
It says that Cinebench isn't well-optimized for Apple Silicon, and thus shouldn't be used as a benchmark (this has been discussed on other threads). It will be interesting to see what Anandtech finds if they do a comparison with the SPEC CPU benchmarks but, for now, the comparative Geekbench 5 scores, which show a 12% SC performance increase, are probably a reasonable measure of the change.

Cinebench is at least a real world stress test under sustained load though, while Geekbench is a nice show off of some theoretical numbers for the most part.
Unless your applications also only consist of a couple of seconds bursts where thermals management doesn't play that much of a role yet, where Geekbench scores can indeed be valid indications
But of course Cinebench concentrates more on the video editing side of things and production in general and might not be the great of an indication for let's say gaming performance.
In the end, all of these are just some synthetic tests to give the user some general idea.
 
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