13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Coming in October?

[ikir]

OMG 3 choices for a 13 inch laptop, that is really confusing, poor customers

Always less than pc world. Remember this is probably only for this year.

classic MacBook pro will die, you will have Air, Pro (retina) maybe also in 13".

The ones you see today with super drive are just for the transition.

 

[kazmac]

nice when this happens

And it will.

 

[Northwind877]

Same for me - dedicated GPU and I will buy it! Intel 4000 is great now, but also to low for my purpose. That's the reason I never have bought a 13" mac book...

 

[kolax]

I really hope they offer an antiglare screen, preferably with the silver bezel.

That's the only thing that's stopping me being the 15" retina right now, though a 13" would be nicer. If they give both 13" and 15" antiglare screens, I'll be in the market to get one right away.

 

[CausticPuppy]

I really want an Air with a retina screen, but I have a feeling it's just going to be the Pro models at first. Maybe the 2013 Air will get it.

 

[Dangerous Theory]

arghh why haven't you american people switched to the metric system already?
it's the 21th century folks

Tbf we still use stone, miles, and yards

 

[Bubba Satori]

Wow, Macbook Air 13", Macbook Pro 13", or Retina Macbook Pro 13"?

That'd be very confusing. At least now there's only max 2 variations of each size.

OMG 3 choices for a 13 inch laptop, that is really confusing, poor customers

:ROFL

See, Apple was right all along.
Choice is confusing.

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I will put any amount of money on it not being $1200. $1500 is more like it.

Yep. And probably $2K with the needful upgrades.
But then again, If they can charge that, why not?
I know people that will buy ciggieboos when they hit $20 a pack.

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One more thought. The current MBPs are cheap...

Never thought I'd live to see that.

 

[jclardy]

In the keynote they introduced the Retina MacBook Pro as the Next Generation MacBook Pro.

I think it is safe to assume the old unibody design with DVD slot is on its way out.

So my guess is there will be this lineup:
MBA 11" $999
MBA 13" $1199
MBP 13" Retina $1399
MBP 15" Retina $2199

The 13" Air will become their standard 13", and for a little bit more you can bump up to the 13" Pro Retina. Of course, if the 13" Retina Pro came out in October I don't see Apple dropping the old models. Although, it is possible as it would be right after their Summer school sales, so those expecting to get a laptop with a normal HDD and lots of storage can still get it, then they drop the line in October with the new line ready for next Summer.

All that I am hoping for though is that the 13" Retina Pro has a discrete graphics card. It can be less powerful than the 15" to help keep the price and heat down, and they will probably drop one thunderbolt port and chop off some battery space.

 

[Thunderhawks]

arghh why haven't you american people switched to the metric system already?
it's the 21th century folks

It all starts with education and unless a law is passed forcing it, this will never happen.

Country is too big and wherever it's necessary the industries take care of it.

We do already have 2 LITER Coke bottles.

Now there is a start

 

[MatDave]

Mba

What about retina macbook air??

 

[Loge]

So is it a 13 inch MBP or a 33.02 cm MBP?

 

[cmChimera]

That would be really nice. The 13" is actually a really nice size.
Also, $2000+ is a bit too much for some people to fork out on a laptop.

My mid-2010 Macbook Pro costed over $2,000.

I'm wouldn't be surprised at all that this came to the 13 inch. This "next-generation" line is just that, the eventual replacement of the current Macbook Pros.

 

[donlab]

In the keynote they introduced the Retina MacBook Pro as the Next Generation MacBook Pro.

I think it is safe to assume the old unibody design with DVD slot is on its way out.

So my guess is there will be this lineup:
MBA 11" $999
MBA 13" $1199
MBP 13" Retina $1399
MBP 15" Retina $2199

The 13" Air will become their standard 13", and for a little bit more you can bump up to the 13" Pro Retina. Of course, if the 13" Retina Pro came out in October I don't see Apple dropping the old models. Although, it is possible as it would be right after their Summer school sales, so those expecting to get a laptop with a normal HDD and lots of storage can still get it, then they drop the line in October with the new line ready for next Summer.

All that I am hoping for though is that the 13" Retina Pro has a discrete graphics card. It can be less powerful than the 15" to help keep the price and heat down, and they will probably drop one thunderbolt port and chop off some battery space.

spot on! +1

 

[KnightWRX]

The GPU. An Intel HD4000 GPU will not be good enough for the resolution of such a laptop, simply put. There needs to be a more potent GPU for this

Uh ? My first unibody Mac with mDP had a 9400m and could power a 30" 2560x1600 monitor at the same time as the internal 1280x800 display. How do you figure an Intel HD 4000 GPU that can do the same using TB wouldn't be ... wait... that doesn't even make sense.

The Intel HD 4000 GPU is already powerful enough to power 2560x1600. It does so over mDP. MacBooks from 2008 had GPUs powerful enough to do it. GPU power is not an issue.

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I can't see it doing 1920x1200 equivalent, things would just be too small.

The Sony Vaio Z with 1920x1080 display says otherwise. Things are just perfect at 160 PPI.

 

[Diaz72]

If Only...

As much as I want this rumor to be true, I would love to know what people think the rationale would be for this. This is exactly like all those rumors about the 7 inch iPad being released in the fall right after we just released an iPad. Apple is only in competition with itself and doesn't need to rush these products out. They have established a year cycle with most of their products (admittedly with some exceptions) and usually sticks to it pretty close. That being said, the only reason I don't already have this new computer is because it is a 15 inch computer. It may be nit picky, but its hard to part with the ultra portability of the 13 inch MacBook Air. Plus it's already hard enough to see a DJ in a wheelchair behind a set of turn tables and a 13 inch Air. People would think that it was controlling itself if I was behind a 15 inch!

 

[Codyak]

Uh ? My first unibody Mac with mDP had a 9400m and could power a 30" 2560x1600 monitor at the same time as the internal 1280x800 display. How do you figure an Intel HD 4000 GPU that can do the same using TB wouldn't be ... wait... that doesn't even make sense.

The Intel HD 4000 GPU is already powerful enough to power 2560x1600. It does so over mDP. MacBooks from 2008 had GPUs powerful enough to do it. GPU power is not an issue.

He probably means for anything GPU intensive, of course integrated can take care of just simple desktop use, but the second you want to do, say a game or any program that takes advantage of the GPU, forget it.

 

[lord patton]

Makes no sense. What's the point of a 13" Pro with no optical drive? It would have 0 benefit over the Air.

Just give the 13" Air a hi-res/retina BTO option.

The 15" Retina is amazing because it retains the quad core and discrete GPU while being the smallest/thinnest laptop you can get at that screen size. Unless they can fit a quad core processor and a discrete GPU in the 13" Pro, the Air with Retina display makes more sense.

Everything you say is true… which is why the 13" rMBP will have a quad-core processor and discrete GPU.

 

[malman89]

Uh ? My first unibody Mac with mDP had a 9400m and could power a 30" 2560x1600 monitor at the same time as the internal 1280x800 display. How do you figure an Intel HD 4000 GPU that can do the same using TB wouldn't be ... wait... that doesn't even make sense.

The Intel HD 4000 GPU is already powerful enough to power 2560x1600. It does so over mDP. MacBooks from 2008 had GPUs powerful enough to do it. GPU power is not an issue.

While it's certainly powerful enough to power a monitor of that resolution, it's probably not powerful to do it well enough while handling a variety of intensive tasks. That's why I think something along like the NVIDIA 640M LE would be the best bet.

It's an under-clocked GPU based off the regular 640M made for thin laptops with 1GB or 2GB models, capable of running up to 3840x2160 and should be able to play games like Diablo 3 at medium/high if the comparisons to the 635 or 555 are true. Just not sure on its power consumption and if something else might come out that's better.

 

[betoranaldi]

I call bullcrap.

What is the point of announcing a new line of (slightly) updated MBPs, expecting people to buy them, only to release an updated retina MBP 13" model towards the end of the year, when the people who need or want a 13" apple computer will have already gotten a pro or air?

They released the 15" Aluminium Powerbook in October and 3 months later they released the 12" and 17" so it is very possible they would introduce the MBPr now and in October release the 13" before the holiday season.

 

[brianus]

Everything you say is true… which is why the 13" rMBP will have a quad-core processor and discrete GPU.

You think? I'd like to think so but the consensus among the rumormongers has long been that the 13" will be dual core and integrated. I'd gladly hang on to any bare thread of a hope that isn't so, so... you got one?

Is there any chance (technically speaking) of 13" quad with discrete graphics? If they couldn't do it for the old model 13"s this time around, what hope is there for an even slimmer model?

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They released the 15" Aluminium Powerbook in October and 3 months later they released the 12" and 17" so it is very possible they would introduce the MBPr now and in October release the 13" before the holiday season.

Seconded, this is a common practice for Apple, and it's wise to expect the same this time. They also debuted the MacBook Pro line in January 2006 with the 15" model, only coming out with the 17" version and the 13" MacBooks later in the spring. 15" always seems to be their 'prototype' with the rest of the line fleshing out in the following months.

 

[mnsportsgeek]

The mid range i5 13" MBA costs $1499. I'm not even sure that a retina 13" would cost $1500, probably $1700

I would agree that it will probably more than $1500, I was just throwing out a number. Just trying to get the point across that it will be significantly more than the entry level 13" MBP currently.

 

[KnightWRX]

He probably means for anything GPU intensive, of course integrated can take care of just simple desktop use, but the second you want to do, say a game or any program that takes advantage of the GPU, forget it.

Run your game at 1280x800. It'll use 4 pixels to display 1, thus it won't look like total crap (it won't be blurry because you're not using the native resolution). Tell you me you had thought of that, please.

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While it's certainly powerful enough to power a monitor of that resolution, it's probably not powerful to do it well enough while handling a variety of intensive tasks. That's why I think something along like the NVIDIA 640M LE would be the best bet.

Worked fined with the 9400m, why wouldn't a 4 year younger GPU have problems ?

I'm all for ditching Intel graphics. They're usually years behind nVidia and ATI and suck in general. But to say they aren't powerful enough is just misleading.

 

[cherishzm]

In the keynote they introduced the Retina MacBook Pro as the Next Generation MacBook Pro.

I think it is safe to assume the old unibody design with DVD slot is on its way out.

So my guess is there will be this lineup:
MBA 11" $999
MBA 13" $1199
MBP 13" Retina $1399
MBP 15" Retina $2199

The 13" Air will become their standard 13", and for a little bit more you can bump up to the 13" Pro Retina. Of course, if the 13" Retina Pro came out in October I don't see Apple dropping the old models. Although, it is possible as it would be right after their Summer school sales, so those expecting to get a laptop with a normal HDD and lots of storage can still get it, then they drop the line in October with the new line ready for next Summer.

All that I am hoping for though is that the 13" Retina Pro has a discrete graphics card. It can be less powerful than the 15" to help keep the price and heat down, and they will probably drop one thunderbolt port and chop off some battery space.

The price for Retina MBP 13 will be higher than that at around $1600-1700 range. MBA will never have Retina just because there is no room to put a dedicated graphics card and large battery cells to support running Retina display in the current Air platform. Think of how much space battery cells take inside of Retina MBP 15.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Makes no sense. What's the point of a 13" Pro with no optical drive? It would have 0 benefit over the Air.

Well with that logic there is also no point to a 13" MacBook and a 13" MacBook Pro, yet Apple sold tons of each for years. There were similar, yet different.

Probably differences b/w a 13" MBA and 13" MBP

1) Faster bus and proc in MBP
2) Additional ports on MBP
3) Larger standard SSD in MBP
4) Lower price & weight for MBA.

 

[debodad]

Price?

What you guys think they would price this at? would 1499 be too low? maybe 1599?