Not sure they could drop the entry level cMPB and give it retina at the same price so soon.
Only Apple could sell in volume any laptop over $1000, but over $1400 is pushing it?
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13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Pricing to Start at Roughly $1699
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Not sure they could drop the entry level cMPB and give it retina at the same price so soon.
Only Apple could sell in volume any laptop over $1000, but over $1400 is pushing it?
you do understand youre paying for miniaturization and portability in a laptop, right? and that compared to DIY, youre paying for all sorts of overhead from design to development to labor to fulfillment to supply chain to marketing to advertising, right?
if thats not for you, then stick to building yer own. but to compare the two is insanity.
OEM pricing is irrelevant to Apple pricing. SSD and RAM upgrades don't follow OEM pricing for the rMBP and MBA. I don't see why this laptop would be an exception.
What else would you throw in at that price anyway? Best case scenario the base model will have a dual core i7 and the second will have a quad i7 like I said.
It isn't targeted at students. They have the air for that.
Most students actually buy Macbook Pro's not Air's I myself forked out the money for 15" Retina - might as well get it while you have the student discounts, so I can definitely imagine students buying the 13" Retina especially if they are doing graphic based courses. Plus Air's don't have Retina displays!
To pay the greedy lawyers fighting Samsung in various countries and courts. Or maybe they want to pass this on to the hard workers at Foxconn by giving their employees a salary raise
They may need higher earnings profits on their next earnings report to keep stock from tanking furtherTerrible pricing.
I suppose its in line with Apple's pricing this year...as such
300 starting for the 5g ipod touch
150 for the nano, which is overpriced at this point
250 for the classic that has been priced the same for 3 years now with no improvements
Next thing we're going to see is the iPad mini start at 400.
I suppose its in line with Apple's pricing this year...as such
300 starting for the 5g ipod touch
150 for the nano, which is overpriced at this point
250 for the classic that has been priced the same for 3 years now with no improvements
Next thing we're going to see is the iPad mini start at 400.
It's more for reference. Apple can price their components based on what they believe they can sell them at but that will be compared to what pricing is currently being offered from online retailers.
To pay the greedy lawyers fighting Samsung in various countries and courts. Or maybe they want to pass this on to the hard workers at Foxconn by giving their employees a salary raise
Don't fall on the way down from your soapbox.
If those are the spec's, I'll order as soon as it shows up in the store. Anything less (concerned the 650m is a pipe dream) and I'm going to wait for reviews.
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Glad to know I was right on in my price estimate. I was afraid it would be more.
Apple is very generous in the pricing, it is the best 13" laptop ever and is worth much more.
To people who were in dream world and said $1499... you need help.
lol/
no computer with integrated graphics is the best ever
Apple owes nothing to customers. The money belongs to the owners of Apple, who are the large institutional investors on Wall Street like pension funds and hedge funds.
Apple is not some kind of a charitable organization like the Red Cross or Planned Parenthood. They are a corporation with only one goal: to funnel money out of your pocket and into the pocket of the 1%.
Sheesh. What's the world coming to?
Why do you think that Apple owes you anything? Have you put your capital at risk? They ONLY goal of Apple is to convert your money into money that belongs to the hedge funds, et. al.
Make no mistake: customers are just a means to that end.
You're kidding, right?
Proof that this site has an abundance of idiots on it...
That said... Too rich for my blood... I would totally buy any of the retina designed Mbps but with a non-retina downgrade... Better battery life, faster video processing and all the benefits of the new design.
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Given that what he said is 100% true, I don't understand your remark.
Apple exists to convert your paycheck into profits for Wall Street. If you think otherwise, you need to get over it.
Soooo, just to be clear. 2000 clams for a laptop with no discrete graphics...
Talk about taking a piss on the consumers, eh?
Ditto. Too pricey for what you get, no matter how good the screen is. Most laptop screens on the market are 1366 x 768, so cost-conscious buyers will definitely opt for the 1280 x 800. Not much difference in pixels.
I also wonder just how well the integrated graphics drivers will perform?...
No thanks. I'm not biting on this Hi-Res screen yet, especially without a discrete graphics chip.
the issues is not everyone will benefit from the retina display.
retina display iPad, iPhone are different from MBP
I agree that this makes sense. Perhaps there won't be a need for three lines, though. If all of the laptops are thin, have Retina displays, have no optical drives, have no hard drives (just SSDs), have no user-upgradable parts, and look essentially the same in terms of design, why not just have one product line, such as "the new MacBook" (although Apple probably would come up with a different name)? In all three models (11", 13", and 15"), you'd have a choice of processor, amount of RAM, and SSD capacity. The 15" either would only come with a discrete graphics adapter, or it would be an option, since presumably the integrated graphics adapter in Broadwell and subsequent processors would be powerful enough for the 15" for all but the most high-end video-processing tasks.
As for the marketing value of having a laptop with "Pro" in the name, I'm not convinced it will be an issue in two years. One, Apple has been focussing increasingly on consumer products, since that's where most of the money is. Two, the power of so-called consumer products already has surpassed what most consumers need, and plenty of pros are using them. How many pros avoid buying an MBA or an iMac just because those machines don't have "Pro" in the name? They buy based on whether the machine will do what they need it to do.
As for me, I'm a high-end amateur user (Aperture, Photoshop Elements, and Logic, in additional to the usual web-surfing, email, and word processing), and my early-2008 15" MBP has been slowing down significantly over the past year. I'm going to wait for Haswell before I upgrade. I love the screen on the 15" rMBP, but I'm leaning toward a refurbished 11" or 13" MBA and a Thunderbolt Display, since I do most of my photo processing on an external monitor (a 21" Samsung LCD I bought in 2001, which isn't as bright as it used to be, but which has served me well).
No online retailer part will fit in a rMBP. Apple is charging more because they can, they have no competition in the super-high DPI laptop market and there's no way to upgrade a non-Retina MBP into a Retina one.
Asus makes laptops with a 1080p IPS screens but that's still pretty far from the 13" rMBP's 2560x1600 and unlike the Asus, the rMBP will use a more powerful LV CPU.
It's not like you can buy a 13" cMBP and upgrade it to a 13" rMBP. Sure you could get a 13" cMBP and buy aftermarket RAM and SSD and pay way less than $1699, but you're still going to be stuck with a TN 1280x800 panel.
The premium you pay is basically for the Retina display. If you don't think it's worth it you're still free to buy a 13" cMBP. From a business perspective it would make no sense to sell the 13" rMBP for almost the same price as a 13" cMBP a user would upgrade himself with aftermarket parts. 95% of people don't do that.
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If you mean used, refurbished, or clearance as new models come out, sure.
They are selling out of everything at premium pricing, though. I doubt we'll ever see apple produce this machine at a lower price point.
This is the perfect argument I make when people get all butthurt over "phone wars"
Like these companies Apple, Samsung, LG, etc are not our buddies. They don't help us out when we need em. There is no loyalty program or anything of that sort.
I don't know why people get so crazy and stick up for these companies. At the end of the day people are going to buy what they want and others shouldn't bash them for doing so.
I personally will never buy a macbook for the prices they sell em for. Mind you I do enjoy using them and are very nice. I just can't justify the prices. But not about to rip someone who does want to get one.
This is a double hit on price as these machines not only have the more expensive displays but also have SSD only configurations and also far more complex cooling which is more complex and therefore costly to manufacture. Apple is probably making no more markup on these machines than the non-retina models. These are not easy or cheap to make and it shows that no other manufacture has introduced a similar product yet even though the rMBP is selling well.
I've been thinking along the same lines ... at one point, after hearing about the rMBP while the 17" was still available, I thought we might see delineation between the Air and Pro line by display size. MBA 11" and 13" and MBP 15" and 17", or maybe even a new Pro size class of like 14" and 16".
The Airs would be mid-ranged CPUs, integrated GPU, resolutions along the lines of the current models, the MBP would have quad CPU, discrete GPU, bigger SSD options, 2X TB and "retina spec" displays.