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Being able to upgrade RAM and replace the HD is why my 2008 Macbook is still in service. Bought it with 2GB of ram and the hard drive died once and was too small for my needs. In fact I'm now thinking about dropping a 1 TB drive in there. Machine still runs good but with the all the VMs I use I could use more ram and couple more cores.

IMHO Apple is leaving the door wide open for competitors.



I'm not too convinced that the inability to add items like RAM after the fact is that detrimental. For example, I have a 2008 MacBook and I bought it and installed my own 4GB's of RAM when I purchased it in 2008. Well, it's 2012 and I never utilize all of my RAM save for some heavy editing and such but even then, the RAM is not the bottleneck of my 4 year old machine. If you max it out with the RAM at the time of purchase, there should be no reason that your computer should be obsolete or, more accurately, unable to complete tasks efficiently within say, a 2 year time frame. My MacBook has another couple years in it, if not more, and the bottleneck isn't the RAM. If anything, it's the processors ability to keep up and churn through tasks.
 
Well, if it's coming out in the fourth quarter, it's likely to have discrete graphics. Absent some major developments in Mountain Lion or waiting for Haswell processors, you'd have a very sluggish computer trying to run Retina graphics on integrated Intel. I'd honestly thought they'd wait for Haswell before putting the 13 inch models on Retina.
 
Man, I've wanted discrete graphics in a 13" macbook forever. I love my 15" macbook, but if this 13" retina has discrete graphics I will be selling my pro for this retina w/ a 512GB ssd.
 
2560 x 1600
13.3" screen

227 dpi

Actually a little bit sharper than the 15" Retina MBP, at 220 dpi....
 
Honestly why do we need two 13" models?

11" & 13" MBA plus 15" & 17" MBP-Retina would be a perfect balance.

The retina screen is wasted on a 13" device.

I want the desktop replacement 17" MBP back :(
 
Discrete GPU, please oh please.

+1... I would prolly sell my current MBP and get one if it were so...

I'd have thought it would need one with so many pixels to push. Surely integrated won't be up to it.

To be honest, this is just wrong according to the research I've done... The Intel HD4000 has more than enough juice to power a 13" retina screen. Unfortunately it won't be a gaming machine by any means but the 13" MBP never has been... Oh how I wish it was though, it's the only thing keeping this laptop from being the ultimate portable computer at a non ridiculous price, for me.

13" rMBP + 256 SSD + nvidia GT650m = :cool::apple::cool:

Honestly why do we need two 13" models?

11" & 13" MBA plus 15" & 17" MBP-Retina would be a perfect balance.

The retina screen is wasted on a 13" device.

I want the desktop replacement 17" MBP back :(

The non retina 13 and 15 will get phased out over time. Eventually all screen's will be retina or thats what I think anyways. 13 > 17 when it comes to sales figures so why would Apple bring back the 17? I considered it to be a ludacris machine to begin with but just because I wouldn't want/need one doesn't mean someone else doesn't.
 
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Hopefully the price point is in line with this. I've been waiting to pick up a MBP, so I guess I will wait a little longer and see the details on this.
 
I'd have thought it would need one with so many pixels to push. Surely integrated won't be up to it.

Surely for most computing tasks the retina MBP uses the integrated GPU? The discrete GPU on my retina MBP is only required when photo editing or gaming and even then I'm not sure if it's absolutely required - it just appears to be any "core graphics" apps cause it to automatically switch to discrete GPU.
 
Great. But I'm holding out for the Retina MacBook Air. It will probably be a couple of years...

This is the rMPB I've been waiting for. I think it'll be a nice compromise between the power of the 13" Pro and the portability of the Air.

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I'd have thought it would need one with so many pixels to push. Surely integrated won't be up to it.

The 13" retina screen doesn't have that many more pixels than a 27" t-bolt display. And even a lowly HD3000 can drive a t-bolt display.

You won't be able to run the latest games at high resolution, but even the integrated chip will keep up with the GUI demands.
 
With how easy it is to install OS X on [almost] any system, a lot of people with moderate+ computer savvy have been/are beginning to build their own "Hackint0sh" systems (or Windows/Unix/etc.)

Yes, yes, "EULA" issue, however when you can have the "Mac Pro" with current hardware and a little time (or any old system with the right specs), you can have a beast.

When OSx86 boards are booming, and businesses in the design industry have/are beginning to leave OS X, Apple has to wonder if the mobile craze will keep them going in the future.
 
they should make the screen resolution on the base model MBP at least the same as the MBA
 
Ultra Fast 1280x800 ?

So if the new MBPR pushes 2560x1600 with a GPU, will it be able to display a sharp 1280x800 on the same screen, without any pixel-edge blur (like when you set a non-native resolution on a monitor) ? That would presumably be both sharp and very fast for gaming etc :) :)
 
Great - now bring back the 17".

Apple seems to be dropping everything not iToy. I hate to say it, but it's beginning to look like a typical selling out.

Steve Jobs built Apple and rebuilt it again, both times with money from Mac users. Now we're dinosaur liabilities. It's making me hope for the New Geek Messiah to come along (the Anti-Jobs?).

Gee, you know if half as many people BOUGHT 17s as complain about it being dropped, if never would have been dropped.

Steve Jobs rebuilt Apple on the iPod and the iPhone and, to a much lesser extent, the 13-inch MacBook Pro.
 
Honestly why do we need two 13" models?

11" & 13" MBA plus 15" & 17" MBP-Retina would be a perfect balance.

The retina screen is wasted on a 13" device.

I want the desktop replacement 17" MBP back :(

I agree 100%. If Apple releases a Retina 17in MBP (don't even care if it's retina, just thinner/lighter), I will buy it immediately. The 15in does not replace the 17. Period.

I would have been happiest with an updated 17 like they did with the "old" 15, but a rMBP 17 would work. I just want the bigger screen. I don't really see the big deal with retina on a large screen like that; my Feb 2011 MBP17 is fantastic. At least I can milk this one until it dies, but it'll be nice to know Apple didn't completely pull the rug out from us large screen lovers. Here's to hoping.:D

Please, Apple? PLEASE???
 
I think it may *require* discrete graphics. When I plug in my TBD to my rMBP, it forces use of the nvidia chip. If 13" rMBP will drive similar number of pixels it may well be needed for external display support.

I highly doubt that they will remove ability to drive external display simultaneously from mbp...

Just my 2c based on my limited experience...:apple:
 
Well this is nice and all but what about the flacking iMacs and Mac pros :eek
This is starting to get ridiculous :mad:

It seems that Apple is gradually switching to marketing driven from tech driven. ;)

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Discrete GPU, please oh please.

For sure, or the integrated GPU will not be able to drive tons of pixels. ;)
 
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