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If I were in your situation, I'd have gotten a 24" imac with 4TB SSD with a NAS for TimeMachine and iTunes backup. But hey, it's a free world and there's choice so each can pick his own!

If you'd have read my initial post; you'd have seen that moving to a 24" iMac would have made no sense whatsoever 👍🏼
 
I'm tempted to sell off my 16" 32GB/2TB MBP while I can still get something for it and grab a lesser spec M1 or M1x machine. I paid $3800 for my configuration and Apple is only offering me $1500 for trade in as of today. It runs so hot that it's basically unusable on my lap for anything but the most the basic web browsing tasks. I've disabled turbo boost and am forcing it to run on integrated graphics and it's still blazing. My initial plans were to use the 16" as my main machine but the heating issues with monitors killed that plan. I'm sure once the new models are announced next week resale will be even worse. It's a great time to be an Apple user! ;)

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I'm tempted to sell off my 16" 32GB/2TB MBP while I can still get something for it and grab a lesser spec M1 or M1x machine. I paid $3800 for my configuration and Apple is only offering me $1500 for trade in as of today. It runs so hot that it's basically unusable on my lap for anything but the most the basic web browsing tasks. I've disabled turbo boost and am forcing it to run on integrated graphics and it's still blazing. My initial plans were to use the 16" as my main machine but the heating issues with monitors killed that plan. I'm sure once the new models are announced next week resale will be even worse. It's a great time to be an Apple user! ;)

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If you are not traveling with the machine consider a Mac Mini. The next generation should have a much more powerful Mxx SOC. If you do travel consider the Mini plus a lower-end laptop. Even both of these will be cheaper than the single high-spec 16" . I dumped my 16" for a M1 Air and very happy, and debating on adding the Mxx Mini or a 14" MBP.
 
If you are not traveling with the machine consider a Mac Mini. The next generation should have a much more powerful Mxx SOC. If you do travel consider the Mini plus a lower-end laptop. Even both of these will be cheaper than the single high-spec 16" . I dumped my 16" for a M1 Air and very happy, and debating on adding the Mxx Mini or a 14" MBP.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the next iteration of the Mini should be interesting. I currently have a 2018 i7 32/512 mini that is my main audio and dev workstation. I probably don't want to be on the cutting edge of Apple Silicon but in a perfect world I'd have a quiet mid spec MacBook Pro and a Mac Mini "Pro".

Regards,

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I'm selling my 2019 iMac 27" as unfortunately its exacerbating my ongoing neck issues (long story, but damaged C5/C6 and an impinged Ulna nerve through playing rugby for 16 years powerlifting and lifting bloody heavy stones) 🤨😂

So basically I'm too close to it, have no options of moving it further back etc, so it's going!

Anyways; having owned a few MBPs in the past (15.4" and a 13") they're superb devices...

But would I be mad buying a 16" Intel MBP now; or should I go for the 13" M1 MBP?

Both can either be used, but still in full warranty, or possibly happy to buy new up to a certain budget (eBay resellers etc)

It's to work from (Chrome, Safari, iTunes, MS Office suite, Adobe Acrobat etc); so no power hungry apps etc...

Cheers
I'd only go for an Intel Mac if there are things specific to Intel Macs that you need (i.e. Boot Camp, x86-64 OS virtualization, compatibility with apps that likely won't get updated for Apple Silicon and/or run like crap in Rosetta 2). An Apple Silicon 16" MacBook Pro seems extremely likely to launch within the next seven months. Otherwise, the M1 13" MacBook Pro is going to be plenty powerful for the things you use and will be a great machine to get now.
 
For those intrested in the bigger imac, or 16" mbp with 32 cores gpu, its clear apple is targeting the power of the mobile Rtx 3070
Remember, current 5500M 83W and that 3070 consume 93W, while this new M1x the gpu cores will consume around 40W being on par with 3070 and almost double the performance of the 5500M
 

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If you are not traveling with the machine consider a Mac Mini. The next generation should have a much more powerful Mxx SOC. If you do travel consider the Mini plus a lower-end laptop. Even both of these will be cheaper than the single high-spec 16" . I dumped my 16" for a M1 Air and very happy, and debating on adding the Mxx Mini or a 14" MBP.
I'm in exactly the same situation, verbatim. And while I considered getting a desktop + el cheapo portable, I didn't think it sensible. 2 machines? Why not get one that does it all? But now I've done the figures, I get your point. If I guess the prices, then a 16" 32/2TB would be €1150 more expensive than a 32/512GB mac mini with an external 2TB disk and a base MBA 8/256. That's, like, another MBA 8/256 in savings o_O Great tip, thanks!
 
I'd only go for an Intel Mac if there are things specific to Intel Macs that you need (i.e. Boot Camp, x86-64 OS virtualization, compatibility with apps that likely won't get updated for Apple Silicon and/or run like crap in Rosetta 2). An Apple Silicon 16" MacBook Pro seems extremely likely to launch within the next seven months. Otherwise, the M1 13" MacBook Pro is going to be plenty powerful for the things you use and will be a great machine to get now.

If you read further up or look at my signature; you'll see I'm already sorted...
 
I'm tempted to sell off my 16" 32GB/2TB MBP while I can still get something for it and grab a lesser spec M1 or M1x machine. I paid $3800 for my configuration and Apple is only offering me $1500 for trade in as of today. It runs so hot that it's basically unusable on my lap for anything but the most the basic web browsing tasks. I've disabled turbo boost and am forcing it to run on integrated graphics and it's still blazing. My initial plans were to use the 16" as my main machine but the heating issues with monitors killed that plan. I'm sure once the new models are announced next week resale will be even worse. It's a great time to be an Apple user! ;)

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I did the exchange and it was worth it :) No more hot VRM for me and I know have an Air I can take everywhere. Might upgrade to M1X or M2 down the line.

For my work usage, on Windows environments I use the provided Citrix so no problem on that front. At personal level Remote Desktop to my gaming PC at home
 
I did the exchange and it was worth it :) No more hot VRM for me and I know have an Air I can take everywhere. Might upgrade to M1X or M2 down the line.

For my work usage, on Windows environments I use the provided Citrix so no problem on that front. At personal level Remote Desktop to my gaming PC at home
Nice. Are you gaming over Remote Desktop or just accessing windows? I would image the lag would be unacceptable for gaming. I’ll probably hold off on any decisions until the next gen Apple silicone machines are announced.

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Nice. Are you gaming over Remote Desktop or just accessing windows? I would image the lag would be unacceptable for gaming. I’ll probably hold off on any decisions until the next gen Apple silicone machines are announced.

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Oh I don't game from my Mac just work and use it on the go :) I just remote to my NAS or my gaming PC to download some games or something.

However I do remote to my PS5 and it's fine
 
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So I recently picked up a 13 MBP M1, and I have had the 16 MBP for about 8 months now. I was thinking about selling the 16 MBP or even selling the 13MBP if I didn't see a need to keep it. But I could see how having both machines are handy depending on if you are traveling, workspace available, etc. So far as of course many have said this machine is very snappy. The screen real estate is of course a little smaller, but that would be the case for any MBP. So far very pleased with this purchase!
 
So I recently picked up a 13 MBP M1, and I have had the 16 MBP for about 8 months now. I was thinking about selling the 16 MBP or even selling the 13MBP if I didn't see a need to keep it. But I could see how having both machines are handy depending on if you are traveling, workspace available, etc. So far as of course many have said this machine is very snappy. The screen real estate is of course a little smaller, but that would be the case for any MBP. So far very pleased with this purchase!
You can use the 16" as a desktop, it's what I did after the whole battery not lasting and the rest of the issues plaguing the hell out of me.

I got the Air and there's nothing I can say bad about it, battery is amazing, no heating issues, no choppy intel GPU issues browsing around the web
 
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Picked up the MBP16 (5500M) in April of this year for a very good price. Already had die Mac Mini M1 and after making some considerations preferred the MBP16 over the MBP13. Each computer has their own advantages, for example:

13 inch vs 16inch - I wanted a mobile desktop without relying on a external screen so went 16
Bootcamp vs no bootcamp - Chose for bootcamp since I wanted to play GPU demanding Windows games with eGPU support
Keyboard - working on my MBP13 felt cramped up after working on the MBP16 which I found more comfortable.
Battery life - Is very long battery life important to you or are you able to make use of power on the road?

Here on MacRumors and Reddit I did hear many stories of heath and fan issues. I was prepared but found that I had no real issues and combined MacFanControl and disabling Turbo Boost to make sure the device runs without noticeable fans. Of course when playing RDR2 on 1080P and ultra setting the fans start blasting, but what do you expect?

When comparing it to the Mac mini M1 and MBP16 on speed the M1 is indeed faster for some tasks. However, to me it is barely noticeable and greatly exaggerated. In the MacOS power settings I did disable the intel GPU which affects battery life, but this led to no real issues.

Overall I found the M1 a bit hyped up and I think that for a good price, if it matches your use case and main wishes the 16 can sometimes be a better choice for you than a 13inch M1. I am still happy with my choice and would recommend you not to blindly follow the M1 hype crowd.
 
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You can use the 16" as a desktop, it's what I did after the whole battery not lasting and the rest of the issues plaguing the hell out of me.
Now that would be a project... Tear down the 16", then reassemble it in a desktop box. I guess a decent slab of copper with some heatpipes or water pipes to a decent radiator would take care of most problems plaguing this machine when it's inside its slender laptop enclosure. Has anybody ever done that? 😁
 
Now that would be a project... Tear down the 16", then reassemble it in a desktop box. I guess a decent slab of copper with some heatpipes or water pipes to a decent radiator would take care of most problems plaguing this machine when it's inside its slender laptop enclosure. Has anybody ever done that? 😁
Clamshell mode..?
 
You can use the 16" as a desktop, it's what I did after the whole battery not lasting and the rest of the issues plaguing the hell out of me.

I got the Air and there's nothing I can say bad about it, battery is amazing, no heating issues, no choppy intel GPU issues browsing around the web
So far with my usage on the 16 MBP I haven't gotten terrible battery life - easily runs at least 8-9 hours depending on usage. I don't do very intensive tasks though mostly office work and streaming, occasionally light photo or video editing. I mainly like the 16 for the screen, but having more battery life (and not having to dim the screen) is nice. Not to mention, the 16 inch is not light, although I haven't minded the weight. I used to have a 2010 13 inch MBP, and loved it. Went to the MacBook Air for awhile, and wanted to try the 16 out. The screen really is fantastic. I have only had the M1 2 days, and really like the portability of it. My husband has the 2017 12.9 iPad Pro, and he loves that device. It actually appears to be just a bit bigger than the 13 MBP. I went back and forth on Air or Pro, but wanted the tad bit brighter screen for outdoor use.

Even though its the same design as the intel MacBooks, it really is a tried and true beast!
 
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Clamshell mode..?
That won't solve it overheating in Microsoft Teams. It overheats all the time even used as a laptop. Particularly when I open a Windows VM, which I do only occasionally, so then Windows needs to check for updates etc...

Of course I was daydreaming, but why not?
 
That won't solve it overheating in Microsoft Teams. It overheats all the time even used as a laptop. Particularly when I open a Windows VM, which I do only occasionally, so then Windows needs to check for updates etc...

Of course I was daydreaming, but why not?
Teams was the main reason I moved to an Air, for Windows I just convinced myself to use the Citrix Jump Host for the 10-20 mins tasks I have to use windows for (powershell and legacy apps)
 
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I had a 16" MBP for a good 6 months and sold it for the M1 for mainly two reasons: The 16" would get hot when using an external monitor and the screen had a little bit of ghosting. I sold the base 16" and got a M1 MBP 512GB/16GB to replace it. I love everything about the M1 MBP, but it can't run x86/x64 VMs. I was relying on a ESXi host to do my Windows stuff, but I no longer have the host (sold the server setup). I plan to either build another ESXi host so I can do my Windows stuff.... or just buy a Dell XPS with Win 10 Pro so I can use Hyper-V. I gotta be honest though, I miss having the 16" sometimes due to the screen real estate and because it can run x86/x64 VMs natively. If Apple released a Ryzen 16" MBP I would buy it and sell the M1 immediately. I really need to be able to run x86 VMs on the go, that's the only thing I miss about the 16".
 
Picked up the MBP16 (5500M) in April of this year for a very good price. Already had die Mac Mini M1 and after making some considerations preferred the MBP16 over the MBP13. Each computer has their own advantages, for example:

13 inch vs 16inch - I wanted a mobile desktop without relying on a external screen so went 16
Bootcamp vs no bootcamp - Chose for bootcamp since I wanted to play GPU demanding Windows games with eGPU support
Keyboard - working on my MBP13 felt cramped up after working on the MBP16 which I found more comfortable.
Battery life - Is very long battery life important to you or are you able to make use of power on the road?

Here on MacRumors and Reddit I did hear many stories of heath and fan issues. I was prepared but found that I had no real issues and combined MacFanControl and disabling Turbo Boost to make sure the device runs without noticeable fans. Of course when playing RDR2 on 1080P and ultra setting the fans start blasting, but what do you expect?

When comparing it to the Mac mini M1 and MBP16 on speed the M1 is indeed faster for some tasks. However, to me it is barely noticeable and greatly exaggerated. In the MacOS power settings I did disable the intel GPU which affects battery life, but this led to no real issues.

Overall I found the M1 a bit hyped up and I think that for a good price, if it matches your use case and main wishes the 16 can sometimes be a better choice for you than a 13inch M1. I am still happy with my choice and would recommend you not to blindly follow the M1 hype crowd.
Now the M1 are junk too. Next year the M1 Max will be junk too. In this forum it's always like this, when the model it's launched, it's amazing, the best of the world, 1 year later it's dead junk.
 
Now the M1 are junk too. Next year the M1 Max will be junk too. In this forum it's always like this, when the model it's launched, it's amazing, the best of the world, 1 year later it's dead junk.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Even the M1 chips are still way more than most people need for basic computing tasks and I have a feeling they will stay relevant for much longer than the previous Intel counterparts.
 
I don't think that's necessarily true. Even the M1 chips are still way more than most people need for basic computing tasks and I have a feeling they will stay relevant for much longer than the previous Intel counterparts.
Yes, I agree 100% with you. What I'm trying to say, it's that this forum always will claim that the last year model becomes junk, and the newer one it's waaaaaaay better. I remind when the 16" 2019 came out, everyone here shout "Amazing!". Now they're shooting "Junk!". When the MBP M1 came out, everyone here shout "Fantastic!". Now if you buy one, you are be calling as dumb.
 
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Yes, I agree 100% with you. What I'm trying to say, it's that this forum always will claim that the last year model becomes junk, and the newer one it's waaaaaaay better. I remind when the 16" 2019 came out, everyone here shout "Amazing!". Now they're shooting "Junk!". When the MBP M1 came out, everyone here shout "Fantastic!". Now if you buy one, you are be calling as dumb.
I would argue these new 14"/16" created a nice sweet spot niche for 13" M1 machines for those that want the most value and battery life...goldilocks effect. But basically, Mx made all previous Intel chips look like junk to people on this forum ?
 
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