What's the likelihood that Apple could update the 13" Pro with a more powerful discrete graphics card like the 9800 GT or 260M GTX? That would enough for me to buy the 13" MBP!
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13" MBP update with discrete graphics?
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Um... the 12" Powerbooks had a descrete ATI chip in them, so it is very possible. My 1.3" thick Samsung from 2003 had an option for a descrete Nvidia chip in it. Heat isn't the factor, money is. Apple wants you to have to pay more for a discrete graphics chip by forcing you to pay for the 15" or 17" Laptops.
I wouldn't be surprised if, in a few years, the 17" is the only "pro" with a sescrete graphics chip in it.
I wouldn't be surprised if, in a few years, the 17" is the only "pro" with a sescrete graphics chip in it.
Eh, I think that's because at the time, there weren't any PowerPC chipsets with integrated GPU that had any reasonable end-user performance.
With Intel we have nVidia chipsets with integrated video, as well as Intel.
but if dell can have a better graphics card, why cant apple? this is still my main reason not to jumo to apple. this is really frustrating. and with a pleasant surprise with windows 7, some ppl like me will be pushed away. "in my opinion" apple is still far far weaker than micro$oft and even though i dont like that company, the regular lappies with win 7 offers me far better performance and flexibility "in my opinion"
Okay, thanks, that makes sense. Are there any integrated graphics cards coming out that could compete with the 9600 GT that's currently in the top Pro line?
Iirc the 12in PB was thick enough so that Apple could have two layers of motherboards (yeah idk what to call it) in there, it just wouldn't happen at .95in.
The only realistic way Apple is going to get a dedicated card in there would be to remove the optical drive.
but if dell can have a better graphics card, why cant apple? this is still my main reason not to jumo to apple. this is really frustrating. and with a pleasant surprise with windows 7, some ppl like me will be pushed away. "in my opinion" apple is still far far weaker than micro$oft and even though i dont like that company, the regular lappies with win 7 offers me far better performance and flexibility "in my opinion"
If you're talking about the 15" and 17", I agree. The 9600GT isn't the greatest for a "pro" machine. But for the 13", the high end Dell at that size, the studio XPS 1340, comes with the very same 9400M. That machine is also thicker, made of plastic, and runs HOTTT (I have a Studio XPS 1640 with an ATI 3670, even hotter.)
I'll agree with you on a few other points, though you sound trollish. There is a better selection for raw power and features for the price in the PC market, but the unibody construction cannot be overlooked. My Dell doesn't hold a candle in body construction to the MBP. Windows 7 is a pleasant surprise, and in many technological respects, is equal or superior to OS X, but the reverse is true, OS X is superior to Windows in many respects as well. At the end of the day, Apple offers presentation and balance, a quality OS with a good user experience running on quality made hardware.
me Asus F9s-B1 only has 1x fan and 1 heatsink, but it has a 2,2GHz C2D (T7500) and a deticated nVidia 8400GS 128MB card.
its warm but not hot.
copper heatsinks and heatpipes will allow you to run a C2D and a deticated GPU.
tell that to my 9800gts laptop the gpu will get to 200f easily lol. to the op i think that apple will stick with integrated in the 13 inch there really is not enough room for anything good and the cooling needed for it
8400GS is no better than the 9400M... therefore won't produce the heat as the 9600M would.
The 9600M produces way too much heat for a thin copper heatpipe and one fan to handle in the confines of the 13"
...that Nvidia card isn't the newest thing out and a quick search of benchmarks put it on par with the 9400m so you're not getting much of a performance boost with it...
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How many times are you going to post your negative comments about the 13 inch MBP? I think we all know your oppinion. The size of the screen or a bit more graphics power does not make the larger versions "professional". I'm guessing you are on the younger side and still have some growing up to do.
How many times are you going to post your negative comments about the 13 inch MBP? I think we all know your oppinion. The size of the screen or a bit more graphics power does not make the larger versions "professional". I'm guessing you are on the younger side and still have some growing up to do.
What's the likelihood that Apple could update the 13" Pro with a more powerful discrete graphics card like the 9800 GT or 260M GTX? That would enough for me to buy the 13" MBP!
Not even the 15 inch can fit those graphics cards. The uses twice the power of the 9600M GT..
And the 12-inch Powerbook had nvidia fx420, not ATI, and it ran extremely hot while gaming.. I burned two graphics card in my 1.33GHz and after much hassle apple offered me a 1.5GHz for free
They can manage to reposition the fan in the case, and Add some discrete graphics, I would think a mobile 4850 would be better on heat then a 9600m GT, but if they can get one in with a smaller footprint, then that would be nice. IMO, if the 12" PB can have a discrete graphics card, the 13uMBP can and should.
I wouldn't worry about it mate, no-one listens to this idiot anyway. He strolls into a credible thread, cuts a huge fart and leaves. And thats how we will remember him as.
A huge fart.
