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Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by sukanas, Jun 8, 2009.
same withe the new 15" base model
Which means we finally have a 15" Macbook after all these years.
and 13" macbook pro..
In name only.
I guess it depends on what you need to be a Pro, huh?
I hope in matte option...
nevertheless huge aggressivity from Apple...
i completely agree.
the 15" without an expresscard is too a bit iffy. :S more like a 15" macbook.
True plenty of professionals using MacBooks and iBooks.
Apple's "Pro" notebook line becomes more and more questionable.
fw800 is great though... would make me think twice now before buying the 15".
It's Pro, because it's what Apple says it is.
Anyway, I'm keen on the other additions (of which is there a lot over the original aluminum MB), except the 9400M? Any thoughts on why they didn't include the GT?
Well to the first point the new name probably is everything about marketing, so the coffee shop kiddies can think they look smart for having MBP.
As for the second, to keep us buying 15s, though I would ditch mine quite quickly for a 13 with 9600gt in it
The additions are great but personally, it makes Apple's line a bit more confusing and highly questionable. Like someone said earlier, what makes the Pro a Pro now? Then you have a MacBook Pro without the 9600M GT but that's what made it a Pro along with the 2" display difference instead you now have a 13" MacBook Pro. Again, the introduction new specs is fine but Apple should really think their naming scheme for their lines.
better screen (?)
faster specs (?)
That's a good amount of differentiators.
I was a 1-click away from the 15" until the 13" came along. I'm still undecided because of the 9400M.
Looks like I'll be keeping this computer of mine for as long as I can.
This seems to be happening much more often. The older models do offer features that just aren't there anymore.
Aw man, I really wanted a dedicated graphics card in the base MBP :/
i hear ya, me too
I'll have to second that. I was strongly considering getting the early-2008 until the 8600M GT was confirmed as being faulty so I just waited out for the next model. Happy with my unibody but if there wasn't a fault, I'd go for the early-2008 over the unibody.
The low-end 15" Macbook Pro irks me. It's a substantial machine so you'd expect specs to match. It's like those big honking, flashy laptops at Best Buy that have 160 GB hard drives, an integrated GPU and a 2.0 GHz Core Solo. Also, at least put a multi-card reader in there or something. What a waste of space. It seems like Apple put in the SD card reader just to appease the reviews that say Macs don't have card readers.
I could see it be frustrating to those who want to buy a MacBook Pro w/ the 9600M GT. Say they wanted to get a MacBook Pro that had the 9600M GT, they would have to pay more just to get the mid-entry one because the base model didn't. So those who don't want to spend so much just get something that really does separate it from the MacBook will be paying $2,299 rather than $1,999.
You nailed it right there. I do check out laptops from time to time in Best Buy. I'll see all the hardware power for the price only to cringe at the Intel GMA 4500HD integrated graphics.
The 9400M is the only passable solution for Intel. AMD offers mobile variants of their 760 and 780G chipsets.
If I have to "suffer" integrated graphics I'd at least want those.
is the graphics card in my 2.2 ghz santa rosa 15.4" MBP 8600 nvidia better than the new 13" MBP or is that better? Im thinking of switching to 13" but don't want to downgrade in size.
You're better off with the 8600M GT.