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mikeo007

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Was just browsing geekbench results and came across a new 13" MBP benchmark that was run yesterday. Likely someone with a review model is running geekbench on it to test performance.

It's about 10-15% faster than last years model, which is about par for the course for a "tock" in Intel's cycle.

But what's more important is that fact that people have these in their hands and are using them right now! I'm expecting reviews to be out soon.

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https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/983171
 

terminator-jq

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Not bad. Not bad at all! Should be interesting to see what other people come up with. If this is true, it will be a very nice upgrade from my current MBP.

Looks like we get a pretty big jump in multicore performance over the base 13" without touchbar.
 
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chabig

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I'm looking forward to the results from all three models, i5 @ 2.9, i5 @ 3.1, and i7. The base performance is really good. I wonder if the 3.1 is worth an extra $100. I'm almost certain the i7 won't be worth a $300 premium. But let's see.
 
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Macalway

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Wouldn't the non-TB with the lower TDP have much more aggressive throttling? It seems to me that if I were to tax that thing out it would throttle down at some point. That sort of thing makes me nervous if i'm running a couple apps I need.

Of course I don't know. Just guessing. The reason i'm asking is the Geekbench for the 2GHZ isn't far off from the 2.9GHZ, which confuses things a bit. I understand the boost aspect, just saying. Got to 'try' to sort this out. :)
 

mikeo007

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Wouldn't the non-TB with the lower TDP have much more aggressive throttling? It seems to me that if I were to tax that thing out it would throttle down at some point. That sort of thing makes me nervous if i'm running a couple apps I need.

Of course I don't know. Just guessing. The reason i'm asking is the Geekbench for the 2GHZ isn't far off from the 2.9GHZ, which confuses things a bit. I understand the boost aspect, just saying. Got to 'try' to sort this out. :)

As mentioned above, the 2GHz will throttle much more aggressively than the 2.9. They both have very similar turbo frequencies (3.1 vs 3.3) but the CPU in the base model won't be able to maintain the turbo for nearly as long as the one in the touchbar model.
 
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Macalway

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As mentioned above, the 2GHz will throttle much more aggressively than the 2.9. They both have very similar turbo frequencies (3.1 vs 3.3) but the CPU in the base model won't be able to maintain the turbo for nearly as long as the one in the touchbar model.

Yes that's what I figure. It would be interesting to test this; see how long the 2ghz can go at varying loads. Because it's an attractive package. It's just an unknown this way, so until I see charts, I can't really commit to it.
 

hj576

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And the results, as expected are better than the Kabylake i5 (in Dell XPS 13) that some people are soo sad was not included in the Macbook Pro. How dare apple use an older generation processor when its clearly better than the newer generation one available in the market right now
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/compare/986436?baseline=983171
[doublepost=1478618773][/doublepost]Whats more surprising is, the baseline 13 inch w/o touchbar actually has better results than the new XPS13 with 7th gen ..

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/compare/983217?baseline=989057

(sorry I know out of topic)
 

dmelgar

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Here it is compared to the 13" without Touch Bar:
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/compare/983171?baseline=908540

Not really a big gain. But the higher TDP and better cooling should allow for better performance when both the CPU and GPU is taxed at the same time.
I had a MBP wo touch bar and could not make it slow down. I pegged the CPU until the entire chassis was quite warm and ran geekbench immediately after and it was pretty much the same speed.
 

hj576

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I had a MBP wo touch bar and could not make it slow down. I pegged the CPU until the entire chassis was quite warm and ran geekbench immediately after and it was pretty much the same speed.
Louis try to see thermal throttling as well in his video, couldnt find any
 

keviig

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I had a MBP wo touch bar and could not make it slow down. I pegged the CPU until the entire chassis was quite warm and ran geekbench immediately after and it was pretty much the same speed.
I could. Try running a game without Vsync. The GPU will max out at around 800-900 MHz (max speed is 1000 MHz) and the CPU will hover around 1.8-1.9 GHz (max turbo 3.1 GHz). This combined results in a 24-29W power draw and 90c temp with 5000 rpm fan (according to Intel Power Gadget). Geekbench only tests the CPU, not the GPU (unless you do the compute benchmark, which no one seems to do).
 

markusberger

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guys, not meaning to be bashing, but considering the price tags, these scores are nothing to get too excited about:

(Geekbench 3 scores, geekbench 4 scores below)

my 11in MacBook Air 2015: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8127053
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my 17in MacBook Pro 2011: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8121533
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my Hackintosh, because MacPros are the most useless overpriced thing since the MiniDisc player: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8129561
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And unless you spend your working days duplicating 30GB files a faster SSD (beyond 500 MB/s) will NOT make macOS "feel" faster ... these are pure benchmark values ... just saying ;)
 
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Phisherman81

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guys, not meaning to be bashing, but considering the price tags, these scores are nothing to get too excited about:

my 11in MacBook Air 2015: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8127053

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my 17in MacBook Pro 2011: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8121533

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my Hackintosh, because MacPros are the most useless overpriced thing since the MiniDisc player: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8129561

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And unless you spend your working days duplicating 30GB files a faster SSD (beyond 500 MB/s) will NOT make macOS "feel" faster ... these are pure benchmark values ... just saying ;)


FWIW - those are all GeekBench 3 Results, the link in the original post in GeekBench 4.
 

raymond7

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The increase compared to my MBPr early 2015 is only 8% for multicore and for single core roughly 2%. Not worth the extra money for this unnoticeable speed difference.
 

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Ma2k5

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The increase compared to my MBPr early 2015 is only 8% for multicore and for single core roughly 2%. Not worth the extra money for this unnoticeable speed difference.

Only 8%? I don't know, 5-10% is usually the annual performance jump by Intel, as they work more on efficiency rather than performance.

Anyway, the new rMBP's, the performance of the SSD's/RAM and the better display/speakers are the main selling points, a long with the smaller form factor - not the CPU/GPU side of things.
 

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