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lightuser333

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I am thinking of getting a base model 2014 13" rMBP, but I have heard that the ui lags a lot. Will lag make my experience dreadful, or is it worth it? My other option is to buy a maxed 13" MBA, will that be fine. I will probably use Xcode, java, browse web, watch netflix, and sometimes/rarely play games such as cod4 or assassins creed 2.

-lightuser
 

yjchua95

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I am thinking of getting a base model 2014 13" rMBP, but I have heard that the ui lags a lot. Will lag make my experience dreadful, or is it worth it? My other option is to buy a maxed 13" MBA, will that be fine. I will probably use Xcode, java, browse web, watch netflix, and sometimes/rarely play games such as cod4 or assassins creed 2.

-lightuser

Preposterous. UI lags were a problem in the Ivy Bridge ones, but not in the Haswell ones. The Iris 5100 is pretty capable.

I've a late-2013 2.8GHz i7, 16GB RAM and 512GB 13" rMBP, and it never lags. Even if it does, it's rare.
 

Weaselboy

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I am thinking of getting a base model 2014 13" rMBP, but I have heard that the ui lags a lot. Will lag make my experience dreadful, or is it worth it? My other option is to buy a maxed 13" MBA, will that be fine. I will probably use Xcode, java, browse web, watch netflix, and sometimes/rarely play games such as cod4 or assassins creed 2.

-lightuser

Not sure what you read that has you concerned, but I have that exact machine and under Yosemite I experience zero UI lag.

Can't comment on gaming since I don't use it for that.
 

afhstingray

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i wouldnt bother upgrading the processor though, unless you're using it for CPU intensive tasks a lot. no difference at all. save the money and use it to get a bigger SSD or some other accessories.

TF2 i know is an older game, but i can play it at native resolution and its smooth like butter. Serious sam BFE i can play at High, but not Ultra @ HD resolution
 

Meister

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Despite what folks on here have writen so far, there is a quite obvious UI lag/stutter on all retina macbooks.
If you do not believe me, go to a store, put a mba and a rmbp next to each other and see for yourself.
 

afhstingray

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Despite what folks on here have writen so far, there is a quite obvious UI lag/stutter on all retina macbooks.
If you do not believe me, go to a store, put a mba and a rmbp next to each other and see for yourself.

i havent noticed any, if you dont mind could you let me know what scenario to test? i have a mid 2014 13" rMBP with 16GB ram. im comparing to my colleagues MBA's which i used to use a lot.
 

Meister

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i havent noticed any, if you dont mind could you let me know what scenario to test? i have a mid 2014 13" rMBP with 16GB ram. im comparing to my colleagues MBA's which i used to use a lot.
For example scrolling through pages templates and certain webpages.
This one was really extreme when I tested about a year ago: rewe.de

I notice it, others have noticed it, too and when I went to the apple store and showed them, they noticed it. It's not subtle. Don't know why some see it and others don't :confused:

That said if you don't notice it, good for you. Don't start looking for problems.
 

lightuser333

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I know there isn't any lag on 2014 11" mba because that is what i have currently. I have to give it to my sister because she is not able to afford an apple product...
 

afhstingray

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For example scrolling through pages templates and certain webpages.
This one was really extreme when I tested about a year ago: rewe.de

I notice it, others have noticed it, too and when I went to the apple store and showed them, they noticed it. It's not subtle. Don't know why some see it and others don't :confused:

That said if you don't notice it, good for you. Don't start looking for problems.

just tried that site, no issues. using latest safari and yosemite. i'm not looking for problems, im trying to understand what kind of situation. after all , you did put a confused emoticon. im confused as well because i really havent seen any lag vs 1st gen retina (1st gen had noticable lag)
 

Weaselboy

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just tried that site, no issues. using latest safari and yosemite. i'm not looking for problems, im trying to understand what kind of situation. after all , you did put a confused emoticon. im confused as well because i really havent seen any lag vs 1st gen retina (1st gen had noticable lag)

Same here and I don't see any UI lag at all on that page.

Meister> Do you still see lag on that page? Or are you not on a Retina at this point?
 

bigpoppamac31

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Preposterous. UI lags were a problem in the Ivy Bridge ones, but not in the Haswell ones. The Iris 5100 is pretty capable.

I've a late-2013 2.8GHz i7, 16GB RAM and 512GB 13" rMBP, and it never lags. Even if it does, it's rare.

I have the late 2013 rMBP 2.6Ghz, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD and I sometimes experience some lag which I didn't experience on my previous 15" MBP (early 2011) with "hi-res" display. One thing I experienced on both though is when swiping pages in Safari the swipe effect will stop mid motion and freeze. I have to quit and re-open Safari and sometimes even restart the whole Mac. I've also seen this happen on Macs at the Apple Store so I know it's not just my Mac.
 

yjchua95

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I have the late 2013 rMBP 2.6Ghz, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD and I sometimes experience some lag which I didn't experience on my previous 15" MBP (early 2011) with "hi-res" display. One thing I experienced on both though is when swiping pages in Safari the swipe effect will stop mid motion and freeze. I have to quit and re-open Safari and sometimes even restart the whole Mac. I've also seen this happen on Macs at the Apple Store so I know it's not just my Mac.

Mine's a late-2013 2.8GHz i7/16/512 and only scrolling through some resource-heavy websites like Facebook (viewing lots of photos, that is) will cause it to lag.

Happens to my early-2011 (BTO 2.3/16/512 840 Pro/1GB 6750M/HR-AG) as well.
 

Meister

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I have the late 2013 rMBP 2.6Ghz, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD and I sometimes experience some lag which I didn't experience on my previous 15" MBP (early 2011) with "hi-res" display. One thing I experienced on both though is when swiping pages in Safari the swipe effect will stop mid motion and freeze. I have to quit and re-open Safari and sometimes even restart the whole Mac. I've also seen this happen on Macs at the Apple Store so I know it's not just my Mac.
I have that also from time to time.

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Same here and I don't see any UI lag at all on that page.

Meister> Do you still see lag on that page? Or are you not on a Retina at this point?
I'm using my 2013 rmbp right now and there seems to be no lag anymore, but I would have to put it next to a mba to really see if the stutter is gone.
Maybe I just got used to it.

For myself the lag was never a real reason to go to a mba, but since I noticed it very severely before it deserves a mentioning.
 

Samuelsan2001

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Mine lagged and stuttered a bit...

I have that also from time to time.

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I'm using my 2013 rmbp right now and there seems to be no lag anymore, but I would have to put it next to a mba to really see if the stutter is gone.
Maybe I just got used to it.

For myself the lag was never a real reason to go to a mba, but since I noticed it very severely before it deserves a mentioning.

Mine had a small amount of lag and stutter in various situations (not enough to annoy me just a little and the rest of the performance was worth it) until the last OSX update, that seems to have sorted it out, also turning down transparency helped a lot before then.

I alaways assumed it was a software issue and hopefully it is finally ok....
 

Meister

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Mine had a small amount of lag and stutter in various situations (not enough to annoy me just a little and the rest of the performance was worth it) until the last OSX update, that seems to have sorted it out, also turning down transparency helped a lot before then.

I alaways assumed it was a software issue and hopefully it is finally ok....
The lag was under Mavericks.
And maybe updates did fix the issue.
I've tried to ignore it, so I am not really looking out for it.
I will check, the next time I put my my rmbp next to a mba.
 

bushido

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the only lag I am getting on my late 2012 rMBP is when I scroll my application folder in list view from the dock but that has even happened on Mavericks and before that

For example scrolling through pages templates and certain webpages.
This one was really extreme when I tested about a year ago: rewe.de

I notice it, others have noticed it, too and when I went to the apple store and showed them, they noticed it. It's not subtle. Don't know why some see it and others don't :confused:

That said if you don't notice it, good for you. Don't start looking for problems.

are you sure it's not a plug in you got installed causing it. no lag on mine using safari or chrome
 

jackdtz

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I have a mid 2014 rMBP with 16g ram. i have lag. it is ridiculous. i clean install yosemite two days ago and now it still lags.
 

jackdtz

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Maybe go back to Mavericks?

I actually prefer the latest os cause all of my previous work were done under yosemite. i'll wait for 10.10.3.

Some people don't have lag at all, which makes me wondering if this is a hardware issue. i went to apple store a few days ago and it turned out the hardware's fine. I have no clue why this is happening.my friend has a base model and it runs like buttery smooth

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It would help to know the details.

it lags a few days later after a restart. if i restart my mac, it is pretty smooth, but gradually gets laggy and jerky. it lags in mission control or when i switch between desktop. The animation is unbearable
 

Meister

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I actually prefer the latest os cause all of my previous work were done under yosemite. i'll wait for 10.10.3.

Some people don't have lag at all, which makes me wondering if this is a hardware issue. i went to apple store a few days ago and it turned out the hardware's fine. I have no clue why this is happening.my friend has a base model and it runs like buttery smooth

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it lags a few days later after a restart. if i restart my mac, it is pretty smooth, but gradually gets laggy and jerky. it lags in mission control or when i switch between desktop. The animation is unbearable
What apps you running?
 

NT1440

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Despite what folks on here have writen so far, there is a quite obvious UI lag/stutter on all retina macbooks.
If you do not believe me, go to a store, put a mba and a rmbp next to each other and see for yourself.
I set up rMBP's all day every day for work. I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of lag.

One of my favorite demos is launching photoshop (cs6) on a professor's previous machine (2010-2011 MBP). Takes about 35 seconds for photoshop to become usable. After imaging the new rMBP, I watch their eyes light up as photoshop becomes usable by the time the icon finishes it's first bounce.

The machines are incredibly fast, given their use of PCIe SSDs. You have to REALLY be looking for a stutter to find one, but in my experience setting up several hundred in the last 9 months they are speed demons.


It should be noted that our image is based on Mavericks 10.9.5, we aren't ready to deploy Yosemite yet.
 
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