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15-inch Screens Demand Exceeding Supply

Hmm, 15" iMacs don't seem to be in short supply though. If this was a problem, wouldn't it affect those too?
 
Possible delays? From Apple?

YOU'RE KIDDING ME.

Damn I hope my Dual 2ghz shows up soon.
 
This made page one? This is news?

The PowerBook's 15.2" screen is:

a. widescreen (sorta)
b. 1280 x 854 resolution

This has nothing to do with 15" desktop LCDs which are:

a. conventional aspect ratio (4:3)
b. 1024x768

If anything, this has more to do with availability of the 15" iMac than anything to do with PowerBooks.

Is it me, or are Mac rumor sites sinking to new lows? :rolleyes:
 
It would be hard to believe that 15-inch iMacs are in high demand. The only people I know that have them are school employees.
 
Originally posted by bikertwin
This made page one? This is news?

The PowerBook's 15.2" screen is:

a. widescreen (sorta)
b. 1280 x 854 resolution

This has nothing to do with 15" desktop LCDs which are:

a. conventional aspect ratio (4:3)
b. 1024x768

If anything, this has more to do with availability of the 15" iMac than anything to do with PowerBooks.

Is it me, or are Mac rumor sites sinking to new lows? :rolleyes:
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Are you faulting the rumor sites or the guy who referenced the iMac above.

The macrumors article and the MacWorld article did not talk about desktops - only laptops/notebooks.

"Demand for 15-inch screens – as used in many notebooks – has also exceeded supply, as manufacturers move production to more profitable larger-sized screens ."
 
Originally posted by bikertwin
This made page one? This is news?

Is it me, or are Mac rumor sites sinking to new lows? :rolleyes:
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LCD supplies affect product lines. Both notebook and Display supplies of 15" screens are limited.

I'm not sure why this isn't relevant.

I removed the speculation from the main article -- as people seem to be reading too much into it. But yes, low 15" supplies could affect PowerBook or iMac lines.

arn
 
OK, perhaps I was a little too harsh. I read "monitor" as something free-standing that sits on a desk, and "screen" as something that's either part of a monitor or part of a notebook. But in retrospect the article is pretty vague about the difference, if any.

In any case, many many notebooks (and freestanding "monitors") use 1024x768 LCD screens/panels. They are commodities. I can definitely see a shortage here.

But how many desktop monitors use a 15.2" or 15.4" widescreen LCP panel/screen? None that I know of.

And Dell & Emachines are the only other notebook makers with a widescreen 15.x" panels/screens. (Are there others?) I doubt there's a shortage, since these are higher priced and not the commodities that the 1024x768 4:3 panels are. No one makes a high profit on commodities, so companies pull back from making them, leading to shortages.
 
Originally posted by bikertwin

In any case, many many notebooks (and freestanding "monitors") use 1024x768 LCD screens/panels. They are commodities. I can definitely see a shortage here.

But how many desktop monitors use a 15.2" or 15.4" widescreen LCP panel/screen? None that I know of.
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True... and I suppose the supply is specifically low for the 15" size -- and not the raw materials.... since it seems screen-manufacturers are moving away from 15" to larger sizes.

arn
 
I'll stick with my 19in CRT till I can afford a nice 18in+ LCD. That might be a while though. I dont' want anything on my desk with Dell's name on it and those are the only affordable ones out there.
 
Does this mean 17 inch screens are hard to get too?
Please forgive my ignorance...

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The Titanium has been a disappointment

My G3 PowerBook has outlasted every-one of our Titaniums at my TV station. This same G3 PB is pushing its fifth birthday and has never had a problem with the chassis. All of our Titanium designs have broken a chassis within a year of everyday use. I am waiting for a better design before we purchase another PowerBook, though we do love the iBook design. Give us a G4 in the iBook and we shall once again purchase a PowerBook. Don’t, once again, blame another company for your problems. The Titaniums and Aluminiums are pretty, but very, very fragile when putting them in the field.

We have had to render all of our 3D work on a PC within the last year. I hate that we are doing this, but our dual G4 system are not even close to the same speed. OK, we have ordered these new undelivered G5’s still sitting on a dock somewhere. Yes, we have ordered, but we have yet to receive any of the new G5’s. AND we are an educational institution!!! Our animation project is due by the end of this month and the Dells are kicking G4 butt. My animators are literally crying because we are using Dells to render Cinema XL projects. Just one last word—AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
 
LCDs in general

I knw from reliable sources, though am not an expert myself, that pretty much all LCDs use the same "glass" from a single manufacturer. This means that any shortage of supplies of LCDs should indicate a shortage of LCD raw materials in general or a shift away from the smaller screens.
The use of LCDs is booming as the tight budgets at many large corporations are being relaxed a little to persue necessary upgrades of their IT hardware. A major component of this is the increased installation of LCDs. I know this to be true for medical facilities.
The shortage of the 15 inch probably just represents a shift in production to the larger screens, such as the 20 inch LCDs, while many big purchasers are buying the 15 inch in greater volumes. (BTW the Dell 20 inch LCD is a great screen and very affordable for large purchasers, significantly less than $1000 in volume.)
just my 2 cents...
 
Re: 15-inch LCD Demand Exceeding Supply

If we don't get pb updates next week I'd almost be inclined to believe motorola is the true source of that story! Maybe they are trying to get the spotlight off them for dropping the ball with the cpu's for the new pb's.... Then again SJ wouldn't be going to Paris unless he has something(s) he knows we are all drooling for...
 
I'm with bikertwin here. Most likely this will only affect the 15" iMac--not the PowerBooks--and I don't think it's a huge disaster if it takes 8 business days instead of 5 to deliver someone's 15-incher. I mean, they can't be selling all that many of them anymore--or at least the demand must be more even (and thus easier to satisfy) than with the pro lines. In other words, Joe Blow isn't going to know or care about how long it's been since the last iMac refresh, so he'll buy throughout the cycle ---> fairly constant levels of demand. But those of us who read MR buy a whole bunch of PowerBooks and Power Macs right after they're refreshed, and the demand drops off after that. So, again, I don't think this is much of an issue for Apple.

Of course, I'm planning to order a 15" AlBook the second they show up on store.apple.com, so I might be just a tiny bit biased. :D

WM
 
Originally posted by arn
True... and I suppose the supply is specifically low for the 15" size -- and not the raw materials.... since it seems screen-manufacturers are moving away from 15" to larger sizes.

arn
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My point being that availability of 1024x768 15" LCD panels (used in hundreds of models of desktop monitors and notebook displays) has nothing--as in zilch, zero, nada--to do with availability of high-resolution, widescreen 15.2" PowerBook LCD panels.

It's like comparing 1440x1024(?) 17" widescreen panels (in PowerBooks and 17" iMac) with desktop 4:3 17" (1280x1024) models. I doubt there's any connection in their production. They're different beasts. They both just happen to be 17".

But I could be wrong. :D
 
Re: The Titanium has been a disappointment

Originally posted by Spidermanjohn


We have had to render all of our 3D work on a PC within the last year. I hate that we are doing this, but our dual G4 system are not even close to the same speed. OK, we have ordered these new undelivered G5’s still sitting on a dock somewhere. Yes, we have ordered, but we have yet to receive any of the new G5’s. AND we are an educational institution!!! Our animation project is due by the end of this month and the Dells are kicking G4 butt. My animators are literally crying because we are using Dells to render Cinema XL projects. Just one last word—AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Your undelivered G5s must be even more frustration-inducing knowing that they have to travel less than 10 miles to you, eh?

You had trouble with the Al chassis also? Except for the hinge design, I prefer the look of the Ti. I thought the Al was more robust, however.

Since it appears new 'books are coming next week (http://www.appleinsider.com), they will be Al models.
 
well one thing's for sure: you can't sell PowerBooks without a monitor. :p

we need a good smiley for *nervous*.



i just tried to see that rumors on appleinsider about the PowerBooks coming next week, but i can't get to the story. can someone post the entire story here? all i can get to is the headline. thanks. :)
 
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