15-Inch MacBook Pro AMD Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Options Now Available to Order

[IdentityCrisis]

My Vega 20 MacBook Pro with 2tb/32gb/i9 Arrived !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Permorning Time Machine backup re-install now.

Wait on the time machine!! Do benchmarks first man! Geez.

 

[koyoot]

You have some very strange ideas about market economy. Or computers in general. Especially since there is no 8-core CPUs or Vega 56 for laptops and 64GB RAM alone costs around 600-700 euro...

Ryzen laptops. They have 8 core CPU and Vega 56.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Already in 2011 the W520 weighed 2.6kg and it certainly did not need a 300W power supply. I never really wanted a crummy 3.3kg laptop.

Okay, a 180w PSU, LOL. My son has the ASUS ROG Strix GL503 and even he laughs all the time about the size weight and absolute lack of on battery time when trying to do any serious gaming.

 

[cube]

Okay, a 180w PSU, LOL. My son has the ASUS ROG Strix GL503 and even he laughs all the time about the size weight and absolute lack of on battery time when trying to do any serious gaming.

Mobile workstation battery time would be enough for commuting (not that 12-core which lasted 30 minutes).

And you can find power sockets on some trains and planes.

A 90W PSU would work for this, maybe not always (and not charging and operating at the same time).

 

[MasterStormcrow]

I am new to benchmarking graphics... where do I go for graphics benchmarks?

EDIT: i've attached heaven benchmarks from heaven.

Custom Extreme Score: 827
Extreme Score: 967

 

[chucker23n1]

32 GiB RAM, at least 3TB storage, at least 6-core. What I was looking for around 2014.

I would have bought a Xeon 12-core laptop for around $4000, but it was not practical when not driving.

You need at least 3 TB of internal 3 GB/s storage?

 

[cube]

You need at least 3 TB of internal 3 GB/s storage?

My 2TB drive had been full for a long time by 2014. External is out of the question (I did leave behind my music in an external drive).

 

[lec0rsaire]

If someone's selling it for that price, it's really his own fault. Even twice as much would be a bargain for that config.

I know but it only takes a couple of cash strapped people for them to ruin prices for everyone else. The same applies on the higher end of prices.

I am a collector of Swiss watches and when a couple of people sell a $12,400 Rolex Daytona for 22 grand and a $28,800 Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 blue for 50-60 grand, those are the prices that everyone will now ask.

It goes both ways.
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My 2TB drive had been full for a long time by 2014. External is out of the question (I did leave behind my music in an external drive).

Dude, just use the internal NVMe for your apps and whatever video and/or audio you’re working on at the moment. Completed projects, your music library and stuff of that sort should be kept on cheap external storage whether it’s just a regular USB-C 7200rpm drive or a USB 3.1 gen 2 or Thunderbolt 2 SSD.

Check out the Samsung T5s. 500 GB for $100 and 1 TB for $200. Speeds of 540 MB/s. That’s really not bad at all for those prices. Once you pass 500 MB/s, that speed is sufficient for all but the most demanding work.

 

[cube]

Dude, just use the internal NVMe for your apps and whatever video and/or audio you’re working on at the moment. Completed projects, your music library and stuff of that sort should be kept on cheap external storage whether it’s just a regular USB-C 7200rpm drive or a USB 3.1 gen 2 or Thunderbolt 2 SSD.

Check out the Samsung T5s. 500 GB for $100 and 1 TB for $200. Speeds of 540 MB/s. That’s really not bad at all for those prices. Once you pass 500 MB/s, that speed is sufficient for all but the most demanding work.

I already did not like to not have the music outside the Mac.

 

[Precursor]

<facepalm>

Vega M GL has 1011 MHz boost clock.
Vega Pro 20 has 1.3 GHz boost clock, so it will be around 25-28% faster than Vega M GL.

Also there are already leaked 3DMark11 benchamrks of Vega Pro 20 with 12405 GPU score which put it on the same level as Quadro P3000, and 25-30% faster than GTX 1050 Ti.

<facepalm>
Benchmarks are out. It's only 10-12% faster than Radeon Pro 560 in OpenCL.

 

[Elijen]

4. People whine that it is "too expensive", conveniently ignoring the cost of the graphics cards and the requisite arc-welder-grade power supplies; both of which are anything BUT insignificant!

eGPU cases WITHOUT a GPU cost around $400. Maybe you can find a cheap one for $300. The power supplies they carry are not worth more than $50. And you get ~20% less performance. Still way too expensive.

Now, ask yourself how any other solution would work for a Mac mini, Macbook (of any variant), or even an iMac. In fact, these GPUs are getting SO power-hungry, that even the Power Supply in the venerable Cheese Grater Mac Pro might be insufficient.

I am fine with MacBooks not having high end GPU's and eGPU might be the way to go for people who need it, but for Mac mini which is technically a desktop machine that you almost never move ... having to pay extra for eGPU solution seems unreasonable.

 

[cube]

You can find eGPU cases that are good enough for a midrange card for $200. They did not exist a couple years ago.

 

[thisisnotmyname]

I don't miss sending it back 3 times to fix the GPU thou buddy

don't call me buddy, pal ;-)

 

[koyoot]

<facepalm>
Benchmarks are out. It's only 10-12% faster than Radeon Pro 560 in OpenCL.

And how much is it faster than Radweon Pro 560 in everything else, including real world operations?

Radeon Pro Vega 20 is currently the most power efficient GPU in the world. It is the same performance level as Vega M GH in games.

 

[JordanNZ]

<facepalm>
Benchmarks are out. It's only 10-12% faster than Radeon Pro 560 in OpenCL.

http://barefeats.com/macbook-pro-vega-20-versus-560x.html

 

[lec0rsaire]

I already did not like to not have the music outside the Mac.

You can either use iTunes Match or Apple Music and just stream (download) tracks on demand. Having a 40-50GB library or bigger is a waste of internal NVMe storage. Sure if Apple’s prices were lower and everyone could buy 2-4 TB NVMes it would be fine but for those with 128/256/512 and even 1 TB NVMe it is a waste of storage in my opinion. Of course everyone is different and can do whatever they want with their storage.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

I am fine with MacBooks not having high end GPU's and eGPU might be the way to go for people who need it, but for Mac mini which is technically a desktop machine that you almost never move ... having to pay extra for eGPU solution seems unreasonable.

It wouldn't seem unreasonable if you were the design engineer for the Mac mini, being told that you CANNOT expand the dimensions of the enclosure to accomodate a larger power supply or cooling system.

It will be interesting to see if they update the mini to have those Vega-equipped CPU/GPU combos, like in the MBP. That MAY shut some people up a little bit...