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15-Inch Mid 2014 Retina MacBook Pro Benchmark Shows Decent Entry-Level Speed Gains
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Thats easy.. because, just like you said, it's only been out for a few months.. Apple has to ramp up much larger than most, and they need months of design/planning.. You don't just drop a new component in last minute.. not and have it be quality.
Haswell supports it. Problem is that 16GB and 32GB RAM sticks are in very low demand and not readily available. As they tend to go into servers, thats also what the few that are available get designed for.
All manufacturers get pre-production samples, so far as I know. A manufacturer might wait for the final production version before finalizing their boards and making announcements, but that doesn't mean they haven't had their hands on the components for some time.
They do. You're required to sign a NDA of course while working with them; but this is the reason why manufacturers will often release products containing 'the latest Intel chip' etc around the same time. Intel, in this example, prohibits anyone from releasing earlier.
Since someones eventually going to ask - yes Apple already has Broadwell chips and are currently working on machines containing them.
Not sure I agree or disagree here. Other companies rely on Intel so it's not just Apple. In this regard, Apple doesn't really have a competitive advantage in hardware but they've always been a "hardware" company that just happened to make really great software and understood the need to tie both ends together.
Understanding that, people who still use traditional x86 apps would of course be screwed if Apple went to ARM. You can't just run x86 apps on ARM, at least not directly. Apple could pull a Rosetta here and try to emulate the x86 calls in ARM but it'd be slow and you'd alienate everything that made Intel based Macs popular to begin with. Laptops have the least to gain by going ARM—Apple's laptops already have pretty decent battery life, do you really want a laptop with 20 hour battery but doesn't can't run most apps? That's Microsoft's Windows RT based machines.
You'd be a fool not to think Apple isn't experimenting with or has a skunkwarks Mac that runs on an ARM architecture but the flip side of this is, they probably have an iPad that runs on x86 as well if only to cover their bases. People also forget the tablet came first in Apple's labs—the iPhone was a shrunk down iPad—even though the iPhone came out first—and I'd bet they have one that runs on x86.
Intel needs its suppliers more than Apple needs Intel. As the world demands more low powered devices, ARM fit the gap while Intel has tried to "shrink down" its power hungry chips to match. At some point, lower power and decent performance are going to converge and I see Intel getting there faster than ARM. People bagged on Atom when it came out but you can't write off Intel yet. The've been around much longer than most tech companies have these days.
The analogy fits. I have to say though that my 2008 2.4 Unibody MacBook is becoming slower and slower. It does run Mavericks satisfactorily, but only because I upgraded the RAM to 8 GB (from 4 GB) and switched to an SSD.
I’m still holding on to this MacBook, as I’m worried the Retina MacBooks aren’t quite there yet. I want a MacBook that will last me at least five years again, but this time I can’t upgrade anything. I want to be sure that the MacBook can handle the Retina screen and future software updates to an acceptable level. These small incremental updates are definitely welcome.
What's the point of benchmarking a 200Mgz speed increase these days?
A few more clicks.
Apple has plenty of experience shipping hardware with brand new processors/GPUs.
My theory is Apple did this so benchmark comparisons with their Intel-only 2015 super ultra mega thin Broadwell Macbook Pro look better.
Ok I can't wait any longer, my PC quit,
I'm going to order the New MacBook Pro 15 retina factory top of the line, I'm will be using it a lot for photo editing,
My question is how beneficial would it be to upgrade from 2.5 to 2.8?? And is it worth the extra money?I've already placed an order but wold change it if it's beneficial ...
Anybody please advise
I'm going to order the New MacBook Pro 15 retina factory top of the line, I'm will be using it a lot for photo editing,
My question is how beneficial would it be to upgrade from 2.5 to 2.8?? And is it worth the extra money?I've already placed an order but wold change it if it's beneficial ...
Anybody please advise
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I agree. I'm 4+years on my Early 2010 17" MacBook. I will probably upgrade this fall but could easily keep chugging along with my current configuration. I'm a heavy Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign user and my current laptop is hanging in there just fine. I am, however, dying to get over to an SSD drive...
Hoping my 17" can net me some cash considering Apple doesn't make this size anymore.
Usually ECC modules go into servers. I certainly wouldn't put a non ECC module into servers.
Well blow me down with a feather.
A computer with a slightly faster processor and more RAM is faster than the previous generation.
So it's now come to the point where pointing out the *********g obvious makes a whole front page article?
Come on Arn, bring back some integraty to this place.
A computer with a slightly faster processor and more RAM is faster than the previous generation.
So it's now come to the point where pointing out the *********g obvious makes a whole front page article?
Come on Arn, bring back some integraty to this place.
It's not just slightly faster. It's a very significant boost in performance. This is important Mac news and very much worthy of a frontpage news story.
I know I couldn't tolerate living with my 2013 15 rMBP having seen these benchmarks. I've already ordered my upgrade.
Actually, it will support 32GB of ram. Many notebooks have 4 memory slots (8x4) but Apple only supports 'two'.
Though I am looking forward to DDR4 in Skylake too.
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I'm glad you aren't the one making decisions at apple. So this isn't the huge upgrade you wanted and your solution is to go with something with a fraction of the power instead and will need years to catch up to even ivy bridge?
There's only enough room for one memory channel. Have you seen the logic boards? They're super small.
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I have the classic and I think it's worth ugprading just for the retina display alone heh.
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I have the classic and I think it's worth ugprading just for the retina display alone heh.
Probably not. You will be gaining x2 storage and going to a Haswell. I cannot claim expert to my opinion. I currently have the 2012 2.7/16GB/768GB and cannot pull the trigger. Gazelle offered me $1,281 for mine but that won't offset enough to pay for going to a 2.8/16GB/1TB.
Maybe we both should wait until next year.