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Apple needs to add more high quality materials such as carbon and magnesium to get the weight down more.
You need to buy another product if you don’t like this one.

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… too heavy… grow some biceps
 
I have been waiting for the 15" MBA for so long, especially after looking at the tech specs of the LG Gram over the last years. LG somehow delivers a 17" inch screen in a 1,350g laptop, with more ports than a MacBook Pro. I have never seen a Gram in person, and I am not in the market for a laptop with Windows or a numpad. But I was hoping for Apple to outdo LG here, given the efficiency of Apple Silicon.

Will probably still get the 15" MBA because I dislike the design of the 16" MBP even more.
You should read pretty much all reviews for LG Gram. They said LG Gram looks stunning, weights stunningly light, but feels like cheap plastic and sometimes feels a bit flimsy. That's magnesium alloy material behaviour for lightness you want.
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You want a solid, sturdy laptop, I think this is the maximum weight threshold for aluminium unibody construction + dense battery. You can hollow it more, lessening the battery a bit more, but you'll ended up with a somewhat flimsy feeling laptop which you'll complain again.
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Titanium? Well...don't you even dare to ask. 100% titanium unibody laptop will have an astronomical price tag. The only titanium laptop on the market today is Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Titanium Yoga, and it's only the lid that's titanium. The rest is still magnesium alloy.
 
I think we are in the first world mentality on stuff like this. Remember people use to lug around a PowerBook Wallstreet back in the 90s. I can understand it being heavy if you are constantly carrying it with you a backpack. At that point, maybe having a notebook is probably not an essential tool you need if its weight is more noticeable. Maybe M1 Air, iPad or iPhone would be really all you need. If I look at my scenario traveling with a notebook:

0.4 miles to bus stop.
5 min wait for bus
Take my backpack off put on floor or available
20 min ride to office
5 min walk to the office
Backpack off, laptop out on desk for the next 8 hours
0.2 miles to bus stop.
5 min wait for bus
0.4 miles walk home.

The max amount of time spent carrying the device would be 30 to 40 mins a day.

If you are spending more time than 1 hour carrying the device around, its possible you don't need it. Also, I am using a mixture of different devices throughout the day. My scenario is likely not applicable to you. But there has to be compromises.
 
The LG Gram is basically all plastic that’s why.
What can I say, I've also returned my aluminum Kindle Oasis in favor of a plastic Kobo-ish reader because the latter felt much nicer. Okay, I'm not being serious now, there is no way Apple or most of us Mac users would go back to plastic after the 2006 MacBook (and its hallmark yellowing topcase with cracks on every edge). Edit: Oh man, but the black variant looked great, further edit: and so did the iPhone 5c.

You should read pretty much all reviews for LG Gram.
I know, but there are so many different Grams in the 15-17" range that I'd have to build a spreadsheet first. That's probably just one more indication that they're all half-hearted junk.

LG still wins in the "ports per pound" metric, but that's not hard.
 
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Concerns about weight, heft, density, and handling are legitimate matters of taste, subjective experience, and personal comparisons with previously used devices. ‼️

We should avoid responding with physical fitness prescriptions, even if in jest!

hit the WEIGHTS

I would be embarrased to admit that I thought the 15" was too heavy

The issue is design, elegance, and comfort — NOT physical fitness. Yet, I’ve seen the same shopworn cracks used to mock those who prefer lighter iPads to heavier ones! Or, those who still wish Apple would put out a Silicon-based 12” MacBook, because they feel the 13“ M1 or M2 is not as light as they would like… or falls short of what they believe would be an ideal coffee shop, travel, commuter laptop.

After all, if it's just a question of getting into shape, then we should never be discussing the issue of weight at all! Or, we should be making the case that most people should be content with — and welcome — 6-8 pound laptops with a huge battery and ginormous display. (Haven't we been there, done that?! 🙈)

If you think that would be too big, too heavy, and too dense, you're complaining needlessly, suffering from a 1st world problem, and should hie yourself to a gym!

Hence, let's demand that Apple jettison the current line up and bring out the 8-pound MacBook Air, the 5-pound iPad, and the 2-pound Apple Watch each with week-long battery life!

To any naysayers, I say, “Get in shape, you weak-wristed, cosseted First Worlders, and STOP 🛑 your complaining!” 😎

/s (obviously)
 
I bought an M1 Pro 16” as needed a bigger screen. Holy porker. Compared to its Intel 16” replacement it’s ridiculous. I would have loved the Air 15” but it wasn’t available back then. I remember my Dell XPS had white carbon fibre wrapped around the frame and weight wise it was superior to anything Apple builds.
 
Now to everyone who’s laughing at this thread, I think the point that OP is making is that this laptop has the moniker “air“ which set an expectation that this thing is going to weigh nothing. When I handed a good friend of mine, my 13 inch M2 air, his first comment was “why does it feel so heavy?!” Apple’s marketing has people thinking that this computer weighs nothing at all.
Apple never marketed this product as weighing “nothing at all”, which is impossible. Even air has weight — almost 15 pounds per square inch. So in that regard, Apple is being conservative with their use of the term “Air”, wouldn’t you say?
 
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I have been using an M1 MBA since release. I went to the store to try and buy the 15" MBA. I was surprised how dense it felt. But I quickly came to understand that this is the density of a MacBook with the screen size I'm after.

It differentiates itself from my other screen sizes:
15" MBA
11" iPad Pro
8.3" iPad mini
5.4" iPhone mini 13

The 13" MBA and 11" iPad Pro have always felt a little too close to each other.
 
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Just watch Max Tech’s comparison of the LG Gram vs MBA. You won’t want to buy the LG.

Thanks. The Gram actually fared much better than I thought. I expected Apple to win the SSD benchmark, and I was even more surprised that the CPU benchmarks were almost a tie. Sure, the M2 GPU absolutely dominated the Intel Iris chip, but anyone who requires GPU power should choose neither of these laptops.

Anyway, I'm just looking at some patches of grass that seem greener on the other side. Realistically, nothing could ever pull me back into the Windows world.

Edit: Also, I felt really old during the trackpad comparison. Yes, it is hard to push down the upper area of most trackpads with your index finger. Apple's own trackpads used to be like this. That's because the thumb at the bottom does the clicking! But that battle is probably lost, just like holding phones upright.
 
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The Gram actually fared much better than I thought. I expected Apple to win the SSD benchmark
If you look you can see that the MacBook Air was on its way to beating the Gram at the random read/write test quite handily but for some reason that test was stopped on the Gram. Typical of Max Tech. For most uses, random read/write is far more important than sequential.
 
Concerns about weight, heft, density, and handling are legitimate matters of taste, subjective experience, and personal comparisons with previously used devices. ‼️

We should avoid responding with physical fitness prescriptions, even if in jest!







The issue is design, elegance, and comfort — NOT physical fitness. Yet, I’ve seen the same shopworn cracks used to mock those who prefer lighter iPads to heavier ones! Or, those who still wish Apple would put out a Silicon-based 12” MacBook, because they feel the 13“ M1 or M2 is not as light as they would like… or falls short of what they believe would be an ideal coffee shop, travel, commuter laptop.

After all, if it's just a question of getting into shape, then we should never be discussing the issue of weight at all! Or, we should be making the case that most people should be content with — and welcome — 6-8 pound laptops with a huge battery and ginormous display. (Haven't we been there, done that?! 🙈)

If you think that would be too big, too heavy, and too dense, you're complaining needlessly, suffering from a 1st world problem, and should hie yourself to a gym!

Hence, let's demand that Apple jettison the current line up and bring out the 8-pound MacBook Air, the 5-pound iPad, and the 2-pound Apple Watch each with week-long battery life!

To any naysayers, I say, “Get in shape, you weak-wristed, cosseted First Worlders, and STOP 🛑 your complaining!” 😎

/s (obviously)
Do you even lift bruh?
 
Didn’t we just go through this in the Jony Ive era? Too light and you ruin the structural integrity. Use better materials to increase this and you raise prices.

People on these forums acting like they have enough money to have a carbon fiber phone who would then complain it doesn’t ‘feel’ premium enough or it shattered when dropped from a building because they don’t understand how CF works.
The Titan sub was made of carbon fiber.
 
The best thing to always do is feel it in the Apple store for yourself. To me, the 15” is way too large and heavy for my preference, while the 13 seems just right. I’m used to the 11-inch MacBook Air and iPads, which are lighter even than the current 13-inch Air.
 
I think the world just saw how carbon fiber might not be a poor choice, even for this application.
Besides, ~3lbs is just not heavy.
 
Just watch Max Tech’s comparison of the LG Gram vs MBA. You won’t want to buy the LG.

Gram supports 3 external monitors and Air supports one… just apples and oranges. Gram include actually still useful usb-a ports. Nuff said.
 
Will probably still get the 15" MBA because I dislike the design of the 16" MBP even more.
Seriously? What do you dislike about the M2 MBP? I absolutely love mine, including far preferring the display to the MBA display. But the main reason for the MBP is way more available RAM (IMO the 24 GB maximum MBA RAM is likely suboptimal for many folks' 2023-2029 life cycle), more i/o bandwidth and multiple external display capability.

MBA has just two redeeming features: cheaper and lighter.
 
You should read pretty much all reviews for LG Gram. They said LG Gram looks stunning, weights stunningly light, but feels like cheap plastic and sometimes feels a bit flimsy. That's magnesium alloy material behaviour for lightness you want.
.
You want a solid, sturdy laptop, I think this is the maximum weight threshold for aluminium unibody construction + dense battery. You can hollow it more, lessening the battery a bit more, but you'll ended up with a somewhat flimsy feeling laptop which you'll complain again.
.
Titanium? Well...don't you even dare to ask. 100% titanium unibody laptop will have an astronomical price tag. The only titanium laptop on the market today is Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Titanium Yoga, and it's only the lid that's titanium. The rest is still magnesium alloy.
Apple's TiBooks worked fine. I doubt if any commercial product is pure titanium; Ti is invariably alloyed.
 
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