15'' rMBP Likers... if both 13'' and 15'' had Integrated GFX.. would you switch 13''?

[Krazy Bill]

Sure, if most of your work is done on the go, without access to an external display, or if you just prefer a larger display, go for it.

Well, who isn't mobile at times and who doesn't need a larger display at times? If you're exclusively mobile then the 13" fits the bill. If you're desk bound then why futz with 15" when you can just get a desk bound mac that's larger and more powerful?

My point being... if the only perceived major differentiation between the 2 MBP models (each with only iGPU's) is just 2 inches of display... then the 13" inch model becomes more versatile. Which leads to the fallacy in the poll. The 15" will have a dGPU.

 

[Mac.User]

You do realize that the Iris Pro in the iMac is 65W right? And that the Iris Pro speculated for the 15" rMBP is 47W. And that the Iris (5100) speculated for the 13" is only 28W.

Okay cool, just making sure you knew

I have never seen anything about which chips are supposed to be in which machines. The only real difference in the 65w and 47w 5200 is that one throttles down, and the other doesn't. I cant find anything saying they benchmark differently. the 5100 is aimed at Ultrabooks, the 13in Pro doesn't use Ultrabook chips.

the 13 and 15in generally use the same TDP.

 

[PDFierro]

I have never seen anything about which chips are supposed to be in which machines. The only real difference in the 65w and 47w 5200 is that one throttles down, and the other doesn't. I cant find anything saying they benchmark differently. the 5100 is aimed at Ultrabooks, the 13in Pro doesn't use Ultrabook chips.

the 13 and 15in generally use the same TDP.

Not really. The 13 and 15 inch do use different thermals. 5100 in 13-inch, 5200 in 15.

15-inch rMBP is going to be 47W this year, with the 13 being 28W. All of this has pretty much come out. No way will the 13 get 5200.

 

[sonicrobby]

Didnt vote in the poll, because my answer is "possibly". I would much prefer the form factor and footprint of the 13", but I also do tend to utilize the quad core for video encoding. If they had a quad core optional upgrade, then definitely consider the 13". Otherwise, I will keep my 15" until it dies.

 

[Mac.User]

Not really. The 13 and 15 inch do use different thermals. 5100 in 13-inch, 5200 in 15.

15-inch rMBP is going to be 47W this year, with the 13 being 28W. All of this has pretty much come out. No way will the 13 get 5200.

I can under stand the reason for doing it this year, I'm just saying that in the past they have not, least not to my knowledge. I guess them both having 5200 is to much product over lap.

 

[UBS28]

How about an option that I would refure to buy it?

I'll then wait till 2014 when Apple is forced to go back to dGPU's. Nvidia's Maxwell is going to crush the Iris Pro. If Apple sticks to weak integrated GPU's in 2014, then maybe i'll just pick up an old 2012 rMBP cheap since Iris Pro can't beat an old 650m.

 

[SimonUK5]

I'd get a baseline retina 13'' in a heartbeat if i could get rid of my current gen NonRetina 15''.

Run the 13'' at full native res and quite whining. 98% of the people on this sit don't need that much power, and even then, there is a **** ton of processing power.

 

[clyde2801]

How about an option that I would refure to buy it?

I'll then wait till 2014 when Apple is forced to go back to dGPU's. Nvidia's Maxwell is going to crush the Iris Pro. If Apple sticks to weak integrated GPU's in 2014, then maybe i'll just pick up an old 2012 rMBP cheap since Iris Pro can't beat an old 650m.

Agreed. But hypothetically, if I had to get one of the two and if the same iGPU was used for both models, I'd go with the 13" since it would have less pixels to push.

 

[PDFierro]

Agreed. But hypothetically, if I had to get one of the two and if the same iGPU was used for both models, I'd go with the 13" since it would have less pixels to push.

That is really not going to make for a noticeable difference.

 

[magbarn]

I can under stand the reason for doing it this year, I'm just saying that in the past they have not, least not to my knowledge. I guess them both having 5200 is to much product over lap.

It's that Apple isn't going to put a quad core in the rMBP 13 until broadwell at the earliest. Apple sacrificed CPU speed for battery life on the MBA and I'm pretty sure they'll make the same decision on the rMBP 13.

 

[BuDWiZe]

theycallmetc" i also looked at the razer pro as it looked really good
but the 2 things that put me off was 1 8 gig of ram i really wanted 16 and its not upgradeable and second i hear it gets REALLY noisy when the dGPU starts galloping along

 

[Wolfpup]

I wouldn't get either, but assuming I had to get one or the other, if they were the same price I'd get the 15, if the 13 was significantly cheaper I might get it.

 

[Count Blah]

Base 15in and all 13in will have 5200 Intel GPU, and the higher end option will have an nVidia chip

Not necessarily. The cost of the CPU for the 15", that includes the 5200 is pretty expensive. It might break even with a 4600/5000 with a dGPU. If that is the case, then Apple will ahve to decide between going with a longer battery life(they like things like that), or maintaining the differentiation they have between the 13" and the 15"(they REALLY like that as well).

They have their own sales records for when they only offered a iGPU in a 15" a few revs back. I'm sure that will play a part in the decision.

Don't get me wrong, the iGPUs have come a long way, but I think the next revision of Intel will be the one that really begins to blur the lines, not this one.

 

[Wolfpup]

Not necessarily. The cost of the CPU for the 15", that includes the 5200 is pretty expensive. It might break even with a 4600/5000 with a dGPU. If that is the case, then Apple will ahve to decide between going with a longer battery life(they like things like that), or maintaining the differentiation they have between the 13" and the 15"(they REALLY like that as well).

They have their own sales records for when they only offered a iGPU in a 15" a few revs back. I'm sure that will play a part in the decision.

Don't get me wrong, the iGPUs have come a long way, but I think the next revision of Intel will be the one that really begins to blur the lines, not this one.

They've come a long way, but so have real GPUs. A Geforce 780m is what, like 5x more complex than a Haswell CPU?

If I'm going low end, I want AMD's CPU/GPU combos, as at least they have not-completely-joke-worthy hardware, plus better drivers.

 

[tmiw]

I'd go 13". The 15" rMBP seems bigger than my 2010 15" MBP, even though in reality there's no difference. And I want to go more portable anyway. I have a 27" monitor if I need the extra room.

 

[Mac.User]

They have their own sales records for when they only offered a iGPU in a 15" a few revs back. I'm sure that will play a part in the decision.

When was that? I don't recall it.

 

[Wolfpup]

When was that? I don't recall it.

I only vaguely do. Can't remember what CPU or how long ago. I shuddered with ruvulsion and looked at the other models