Since my luck is so sour, I got my 15in PowerBook yesterday, and like the 12in, it arrived in not-booting condition... It gets stuck a few seconds after getting to the Tiger login window if I don't press anything. If I login, it logs me in, then it opens a finder windows and freezes. Upon booting from a Leopard Install disk, it gets stuck at the Apple logo and spinning wheel (not pinwheel/beach-ball). Booting through Verbose mode on both doesn't seem to point anything out, although I was just expecting it to freeze at a certain point, which would be the point that it freezes normally. The hdd also has a hard time turning on, usually I'll have to force restart the computer when i try to turn it on and then try again and it should turn on. I'm sadly guessing the HDD is on the way out, and i don't have any spare PATA drives, let alone any at all (I still need one for my Mac Mini G4). Anyway, anyone have some ideas as to help out? I tried opening it up and unplugging and redoing any cable i could find, but it had no effect. Thanks in advance!