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16:9 - I just realized something awesome about it

mikethebigo

mikethebigo

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I don't know why this didn't click before, but I just realized that if the new iPhone screen is 16:9, it will be able to perfectly scale with airplay to HD TVs without any letterboxing. I think this may be Apple's play for the living room gaming market - the iPhone becomes the controller and with WiFi direct you can send signal straight to the Apple TV.

It will actually be pretty cool!

Any thoughts?
 
mikethebigo said:
I don't know why this didn't click before, but I just realized that if the new iPhone screen is 16:9, it will be able to perfectly scale with airplay to HD TVs without any letterboxing. I think this may be Apple's play for the living room gaming market - the iPhone becomes the controller and with WiFi direct you can send signal straight to the Apple TV.

It will actually be pretty cool!

Any thoughts?
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It may have been a factor... definitely not the driving factor though
 
mikethebigo said:
I don't know why this didn't click before, but I just realized that if the new iPhone screen is 16:9, it will be able to perfectly scale with airplay to HD TVs without any letterboxing. I think this may be Apple's play for the living room gaming market - the iPhone becomes the controller and with WiFi direct you can send signal straight to the Apple TV.

It will actually be pretty cool!

Any thoughts?
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Right, and with AirPlay Direct, it will be even better.
 
If by "cool" you mean the worst idea ever, then yes, it would be. The Vita as an extended controller for the PS3 or the Wii U controller actually make sense, they have hardware buttons. Controlling a game beyond angry birds with the phone would be an exercise in futility.
 
mattopotamus said:
I would say that was definitely a driving people as tons of people stream to HDTVs. Maybe not games, but other content.
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tons of people stream, but not off their phones onto their tv.

I do not know a single person who does that. I am the first my friends to own an apple tv
 
Want300 said:
tons of people stream, but not off their phones onto their tv.

I do not know a single person who does that. I am the first my friends to own an apple tv
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It's very easy. AirAV app. PS3MediaPlayer DLNA server on PC.

Load up m4v/mp4 video streaming from DLNA on the PC, transfer to AppleTV. And can even sleep phone and it keeps going straight on through to AppleTV.

Youtube is also easier to browse on iPhone or iPad depending on what I have handy, and then just transfer to AppleTV.

Even so, 16:9 content still works even now... from my 4:3 iPhone4. The iPhone's screen dimensions are irrelevant.
 
mikethebigo said:
I don't know why this didn't click before, but I just realized that if the new iPhone screen is 16:9, it will be able to perfectly scale with airplay to HD TVs without any letterboxing. I think this may be Apple's play for the living room gaming market - the iPhone becomes the controller and with WiFi direct you can send signal straight to the Apple TV.

It will actually be pretty cool!

Any thoughts?
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iPhone screen size is completely irrelevant; it'll scale to whatever it needs to regardless.

And to agree with an above poster a buttonless remote would, for the most part, be terrible.
 
Menel said:
It's very easy. AirAV app. PS3MediaPlayer DLNA server on PC.

Load up m4v/mp4 video streaming from DLNA on the PC, transfer to AppleTV. And can even sleep phone and it keeps going straight on through to AppleTV.

Youtube is also easier to browse on iPhone or iPad depending on what I have handy, and then just transfer to AppleTV.

Even so, 16:9 content still works even now... from my 4:3 iPhone4. The iPhone's screen dimensions are irrelevant.
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I wasn't saying it is hard. I am just saying a lot of people don't do it. I do not know a single one.

I know TONS of people who don't even have music on their iPhone. They only use it to surf the net, use apps, and for the phone features

ADDITIONAL: The iPad is 4:3 and the iPhone is 3:2
 
Menel said:
It's very easy. AirAV app. PS3MediaPlayer DLNA server on PC.

Load up m4v/mp4 video streaming from DLNA on the PC, transfer to AppleTV. And can even sleep phone and it keeps going straight on through to AppleTV.

Youtube is also easier to browse on iPhone or iPad depending on what I have handy, and then just transfer to AppleTV.

Even so, 16:9 content still works even now... from my 4:3 iPhone4. The iPhone's screen dimensions are irrelevant.
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Or, like I do, put movies on external drive. Plug into my PS3. Done.
 
Interstella5555 said:
If by "cool" you mean the worst idea ever, then yes, it would be. The Vita as an extended controller for the PS3 or the Wii U controller actually make sense, they have hardware buttons. Controlling a game beyond angry birds with the phone would be an exercise in futility.
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This is 100 percent true. Gaming on touch screens suck
 
I just hope that they increased the resolution to at least 720p on the new screen
 
for me, this is a video game controller.

XBOX360-CONTROLLER-R-unit.jpg


gaming on the iPhone is fun for a short time but the kind of serious gaming that uses the whole tv is harder to do with only a touch screen. Im sure it will be something apple does tout as an awesome feature but I'm not sure it will actually be all that amazing. Streaming videos however will be pretty great.
 
Well, like others have pointed out, we're not just talking about gaming as it is true that games like real racing already do scale to the 16:9 ratio on HD TVs when streamed from iOS devices.

How about straight up screen mirroring? Showing off apps, photos, things on the web, doing presentations, you suddently have perfect 16:9 mirroring of whatever you do on your phone.

It probably is not the driving force for the change, and truthfully Apple just didn't want to make the phone wider because it would break a lot of apps, but it's still at least a cool byproduct of the change.
 
Gaming on an external additional cost device would be a terrible reason to choose such an awkward phone size. Hopefully they can come up with a better reason to give us taller but not wider.
 
I couldn't care about it being awesome using AirPlay, I'm just excited the 16:9 ratio will be on the iPhone itself.
 
I've used a wireless HDMI transmitter for over a year now and use my phone on the TV a lot. It's pretty easy and works great for watching video, music, and playing maybe Angry Birds or something (I don't know, don't play tons of games), but in no way is it ideal for gaming. It scales just fine regardless of the size of the screen, anyway.
 
mikethebigo said:
I don't know why this didn't click before, but I just realized that if the new iPhone screen is 16:9, it will be able to perfectly scale with airplay to HD TVs without any letterboxing. I think this may be Apple's play for the living room gaming market - the iPhone becomes the controller and with WiFi direct you can send signal straight to the Apple TV.

It will actually be pretty cool!

Any thoughts?
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My thoughts are that
  1. an iPhone 4 "Airplayed" to an HD TV suffers from "Pillarboxing" i.e. black vertical stripes at the sides, as opposed to "Letterboxing" which is black horizontal stripes at the top and bottom (picky, I know)
  2. that a 2.35:1 movie will still not be exactly right, but will certainly look a whole lot better on the iPhone screen and on the HD TV
 
iBreatheApple said:
I use Airplay every day. I love it.
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This. And as an aside, does the 4s(and presumably the i5) support more airplay gaming than my i4?

I'm not saying that it will happen with the i5, or ever, but Apple has patents on haptic displays. I feel as though this would greatly increase the iPhone's capability as a gaming controller. I don't think it will ever compete with traditional controllers, but for most casual gaming it will be a welcome addition.
 
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