16-inch MacBook Pro With M1 Max Chip Is Marginally Heavier Than Same Model Configured With M1 Pro

[ValSalva]

I think the weight difference between the 16” M1 Pro versus Max means the 16” M1 Max may get slightly better fans and/or a better heat dissipation system. This is not the case with the 14” M1 Pro versus Max because probably the 14” M1 Max is simply too small to contain a more aggressive cooling solution. This may mean that the 14” M1 Max could thermally throttle under heavy loads. Only testing will tell.

 

[ivan86]

I am very curious: What does which processor do with the sound of the fan blowing? Which M1 chip in which Macbook will produce the least amount of fan noise. I will buy that one!

Go for the MacBook Air.

 

[asdfjkl;]

I am very curious: What does which processor do with the sound of the fan blowing? Which M1 chip in which Macbook will produce the least amount of fan noise. I will buy that one!

MacBook Air as it's fanless!

 

[Piplodocus]

Minimum difference is 4.6 grams, max difference is 90.7 grams...

... guess who's unnecessarily overexcited by their first new MacBook in far too long? 😂

 

[Piplodocus]

The difference is not that much: 2,15 kg vs 2,17 kg.
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Or if that's correct, then I'll refine it to within 19.6 grams after comparing to the pound rounding... fitting within Serban55's "different SoC size...thats 10-20 grams at most..." 🤣

 

[OS X Dude]

MacBook Air as it's fanless!

Based on its sales, I think it actually has plenty of fans 😉 I've got one for work and it trounces my other work Mac (2019 16" i7 Pro), even at the base-spec!

 

[OS X Dude]

Very excited to get one of these in at work and have a look at them. My pick would be the 14" as you can still spec it as fully as the 16" (something I've always wanted to be possible on the old 13") so you get the best mix of raw power and supreme portability. I appreciate that the battery life takes a hit due to it having a smaller battery, but it's still great.

I think the 16" may be too heavy to be a laptop that gets lugged around everywhere. My work-issued 2019 16" kills my shoulder in a messenger bag, so maybe I just need a backpack to more evenly spread the load.

 

[guzhogi]

Heavy Metal 🤟

This is what I call heavy metal.

Kidding aside, I don't mind too much. Probably weighs less than the late 2013 rMBP I'm replacing.

 

[mannyvel]

It's great that Apple finally will accept marginal size/weight gains for improved battery life (and presumably thermals).

 

[Supermanneke]

Any of them will produce zero amount of fan noise for basic tasks, since the fans will be off.

A test would be very INTERESTING: When will the FAN of which M1 variant (simultaneous tests of 14 and 16 inches) successively start to switch on in which machine with increasing pressure?

 

[_Spinn_]

It has to be the bigger SOC and cooling needed for it that accounts for the difference.

 

[keco185]

so why? because it is not the different SoC size...thats 10-20 grams at most...maybe bigger vents?
If so...then the 14" maxed out will get thermal throttling for sure

The larger surface area of the max chip requires a larger copper heatsink to cover it. Just enough added weight to increase the decimal point by 1.

 

[Arsenikdote]

could be underclocking the chip. I don’t know that I saw any specs on clock speed

Could be, but in the keynote they specifically stated that you got the same....can't remember the exact phrasing, but basically "performance" in either size model. It was an Apple "first" according to them, so I would be very surprised if they throttled the 14". But maybe!

 

[paulsydaus]

we have to wait for reviews

Bigger vents will reduce weight, not increase it.

 

[Arsenikdote]

Bigger vents will reduce weight, not increase it.

bigger/more heat sinks would increase weight. bigger/more fans would increase weight. remember we are talking 0.01 lbs here...

 

[bushman4]

Performance should be worth the extra weight. When you think about it the trade off is minimal

 

[polyphenol]

Remember, people are up in arms about 2g on an Apple Watch S7...

Are they still able to get their arms up with that extra weight?

 

[Arsenikdote]

Are they still able to get their arms up with that extra weight?

Only if you do a lot of Apple Fitness+ workouts

 

[haleyp]

Waiting for iFixit to show us that the MAX has better cooling, but this almost confirms it.

 

[AlienSexGod]

What I really want to know is in the increased size did they improve the thermal dissipation such that the highest spec CPU doesn't throttle 80% of the time like it does on my MBPro 2.4Ghz 8 Core i9 with 64Gn ram which often slows to a crawl just multitasking office apps with lots of browser tabs open. Multitasking of the newer OSes is useless. I remember using a Mac Mini single-chip G4 with 1Gb ram and I could have MS office open my accounting software FileMaker pro. Photoshop and burn 2 DVD's with no errors in the background and the foreground app felt like nothing else was happening. The new OS you HAVE to run makes the foreground app feel like I am rendering a video in the background when it's just office apps often stutters etc

If I buy the top of the line again will it overheat on basic multitasking, run out of memory like 64Gb does in Big Sur on the i9 so often will it suck so hard I want to go back to my 2012 i7 MBPro with just 16Gb ram 4Tb Samsung SSD and a 2Tb HD in the DVD bay and run High Sierra blitz fast? The new OSes are just some kids wanking off in One Infinite Loop. I need to actually work not wait for basics!!! FFS

 

[BornAgainMac]

Waiting for the MacBook Air revision 2 with M2 and no fans. I don't run Final Cut Pro and be ok with a thin and light laptop with next generation technology.

 

[Arsenikdote]

Photoshop and burn 2 DVD's with no errors in the background and the foreground app felt like nothing else was happening.

I remember those days! I feel like the M1 has a lot of those capabilities but looking to see if the new M1 Max can handle my harder workflow requirements and still feel like the M1 does....like back in the "good ol days"! Here's to hoping!

 

[svish]

Not that much of a weight difference. The difference in weight could be due to some difference in heat dissipation mechanism.

 

[jdk1.0]

What's most likely happened is that the M1 Pro machine is *just* under 4.65 pounds whereas the M1 Max chip is *just* over 4.65 pounds so one gets rounded down to 4.6 and the other gets rounded up to 4.7. The difference is probably less than an ounce in Freedom units.

Are you referring to the avoirdupois ounce, defined based on the avoirdupois pound, which is itself defined by the kilogram? And hence the French Freedom Fighters? ? ??

(Just kidding, I know the avoirdupois pound was invented in Italy. But I couldn't think of a Troy ounce joke in time to post this.)