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MacBook Pro with an i7 Haswell benched!

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Um3r

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After the earlier reports of the i5 MBP being benched, there seems to be an i7 version benched just a few hours ago! Seems like things are finally moving now! An MBP update before the BTS promo ends would be super awesome. 😀
 
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Aha 😀

I see 16GB RAM. Hope it will be the base config size!

How secure is the communication between GeekBench app and its server? If the communication is in clear, a man-in-the-middle could easily alter data and fake a Haswell rMBP 15"...
 
I think it should be legit! When the i5 version was spotted it was pinned on the front page of macrumors. Besides, why would anyone want to mess it up if they could 😛
 
Watabou said:
Probably not. That looks like the highest end model since it has the 4950HQ processor.
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Maybe 16GB is the base config for that processor. I wonder if there will be a BTO for 32GB for the top end. Probably not. Just wishing so that it would allow Apple to differentiate the 15" rMBP from the 13" rMBP and allow 16GB in the latter.
 
Is there anything we can infer from the GPU used based on the processor? I know apple may throw in a discrete GPU but if they didn't, which of the IGPUs would be paired with that processor?
 
Watabou said:
Probably not. That looks like the highest end model since it has the 4950HQ processor.
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But it's only clocked in at 2.4GHz. I'm not too keen on Haswell clock speeds, but 2.4 sounds like the base model. Maybe the base model will have 16GB RAM. We can hope! 🙂
 
ValSalva said:
Maybe 16GB is the base config for that processor. I wonder if there will be a BTO for 32GB for the top end. Probably not. Just wishing so that it would allow Apple to differentiate the 15" rMBP from the 13" rMBP and allow 16GB in the latter.
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if 16GB is the base, saves me money from upgrading 😀

but could they? i don't think 32GB chips come cheap though
 
LoMonkey said:
But it's only clocked in at 2.4GHz. I'm not too keen on Haswell clock speeds, but 2.4 sounds like the base model. Maybe the base model will have 16GB RAM. We can hope! 🙂
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The 2.4GHz is equivalent to the current Ivy Bridge's 2.8 GHz.

Base model will have the 4750HQ which runs at 2.0GHz. The BTO option would be the 4850HQ which runs at 2.3GHz.
 
LoMonkey said:
But it's only clocked in at 2.4GHz. I'm not too keen on Haswell clock speeds, but 2.4 sounds like the base model. Maybe the base model will have 16GB RAM. We can hope! 🙂
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Clock speeds on Haswell is incomparable. Trust him that 4950HQ is the highest spec, this processor is the top of the line mobile processor. (Until 4960 in September).
 
devilcm3 said:
if 16GB is the base, saves me money from upgrading 😀

but could they? i don't think 32GB chips come cheap though
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I believe the 15" rMBP uses two 8GB modules. So it depends on whether Apple is able to source cheap enough 16GB modules.
 
As I predicted no reason to wait for Haswell for those shopping for rMBP:

Current Model 2.7GHz 12250 Geek bench 32-Bit OSX
Haswell Model 2.4GHz 12500 Geek bench 32-bit OSX

Apart from the fact that lower clock speeds are getting about the same performance, it's not going to be noticeable.

Still glad I paid 20% less the RRP for what amounts to still be the best laptop ever made 🙂
 
ValSalva said:
I believe the 15" rMBP uses two 8GB modules. So it depends on whether Apple is able to source cheap enough 16GB modules.
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2x8GB is quite common these days, but 2x16GB?
i don't even see those available on standard SODIMM modules.

i think if they did available, the price would be outrageous.

what i do hope is that, they give 16GB for all 15" rMBP versions.
the 13" rMBP has fixed 8GB ram, why couldn't they do the same thing on 15" 🙄

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Sym0 said:
As I predicted no reason to wait for Haswell for those shopping for rMBP:

Current Model 2.7GHz 12250 Geek bench 32-Bit OSX
Haswell Model 2.4GHz 12500 Geek bench 32-bit OSX

Apart from the fact that lower clock speeds are getting about the same performance, it's not going to be noticeable.

Still glad I paid 20% less the RRP for what amounts to still be the best laptop ever made 🙂
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you're wrong mate.
people waiting for haswell isn't expecting any large performance increase in CPU ( if there's any )

what we are expecting is other stuff such as improved battery life, thunderbolt2 ( some ), better GPU and others.
 
devilcm3 said:
2x8GB is quite common these days, but 2x16GB?
i don't even see those available on standard SODIMM modules.

i think if they did available, the price would be outrageous.

what i do hope is that, they give 16GB for all 15" rMBP versions.
the 13" rMBP has fixed 8GB ram, why couldn't they do the same thing on 15" 🙄

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you're wrong mate.
people waiting for haswell isn't expecting any large performance increase in CPU ( if there's any )

what we are expecting is other stuff such as improved battery life, thunderbolt2 ( some ), better GPU and others.
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Not to forget cooler temperatures. I think they will also try to bring the battery life close to match the Air. Prolly fit it with larger batteries and devise a more efficient GPU management method.
 
sofianito said:
How secure is the communication between GeekBench app and its server? If the communication is in clear, a man-in-the-middle could easily alter data and fake a Haswell rMBP 15"...
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I confirm the communication between GeekBench and its Nginx web server is in clear! 😱

Gime a couple of hours, and you'll probably spot a Broadwell or Skylake benchmark... 😀
 
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Um3r said:
Not to forget cooler temperatures. I think they will also try to bring the battery life close to match the Air. Prolly fit it with larger batteries and devise a more efficient GPU management method.
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actually according to reviews of desktop haswel we will have increase in temperature (hello superthrottling)
 
Here is the XML sent after benchmarking my late 2008 MBP:
Code: 
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There is a checksum XML attribute which I guess checks the integrity of the payload... It is not going to be easy...🙁
 
blackreplica said:
Thank you! So its the GT3e then?

Using the highest end IGPU, I'm thinking that Apple may be tempted to omit the dGPU in the base model 15 rMBP.....

If this processor was in the 13 inch model sans dGPU i'd be all over it in a heartbeat though
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Yepp it's the highest end. The watt rating for this processor is 47W is too high for 13", and there's no 35W/37W processor with GT3e (5200HD). But this processor is the highest spec'ed 15", Low will use the 4750HQ, Mid will use 4850HQ and the Highest will use this one, the 4950HQ. (All 47W's).

The 13" will use a 28W processor: 4258U, and I believe the upgraded processor will be 4558U.
 
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