1680x1050 not supported on Apple TV 3

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  1. orestes1984 macrumors 65816

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    It seems my monitors native resolution isn't supported on an Apple TV 3 and my monitor does not scale 1920x1080 it displays it at native pixels only showing 3/4 of the screen, so the compromise is 1280x1024. I guess this is what I pay for a $100 media player.
     
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    Apple products work 100% correctly. You're using it wrong.

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  3. orestes1984 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks smart ass :p If they work so correctly then they must really work well with 1366x768 1080i TVs :confused:
     
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    okay...

    Apparently on your TV. Mine works great. 1080p.
     
  5. orestes1984 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Half my problem is that I am using a monitor and not a TV, the other half is the crappy list of TV resolutions in the Apple TV menu even if I did own a TV. Apple are basically saying screw you to anyone that owns a 1080i TV.
     
  6. chenks macrumors 6502a

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    except you're not using a 1080i TV.
    you're using a monitor.

    the listed requirements for the appletv clearly state "High-definition TV with HDMI and capable of 1080p or 720p"

    you're not using a TV, so tough luck.

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    they do, i've used them on TV's with a native resolution of 1366x768.
    key word there was "TV".
     
  7. ftaok, Oct 8, 2012
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    Honestly, it's not Apple's problem. You're using a device that is designed for TV sets. 1680x1050 is not a standard resolution for TVs.

    I am assuming that you're using an HDMI input on your monitor. Perhaps the fault lies at the manufacturer of your monitor that doesn't support standard HDTV resolutions over the HDMI port. If you're using a DVI port ... then just forget about it.

    BTW, what's a 1366x768 1080i TV? I've never seen one of these. Every 1366x768 TV that I know if is either an LCD or Plasma and these pretty much all support 720p/1080i/1080p ... all of which the aTV supports.

    NOTE - apparently, the aTV3 does not support 1080i. So I guess 1366x768 1080i TV owners would be limited to 720p from the aTV3. I guess it's better than nothing, but not as good as it could be. (I'd rather send 1080i to the TV and have the TV downscale/deinterlace it to 1366x768p than to send 720p and have the TV upscale to 768p.
     
  8. orestes1984, Oct 8, 2012
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    :mad: The Apple zealotry is strong, I am using what is effectively better than a 720p TV. If an Apple TV was meant purely for 720p and 1080p why would it support weird resolutions like 480p and 1024p. 1024p is not a standard for anything other than PC monitors.

    Yes its my fault that a crappy product can't auto detect the resolutions available to my monitor like any other operating system :rolleyes:
     
  9. tdhurst macrumors 68040

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    Really?

    Please don't come on a pro-Apple forum, ask for advice, and then insult the very people trying to help you.

    Just return the damn Apple TV. We're telling you what works for us.
     
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    i merely quoted you the listed requirements, and stated the fact that you are not using a TV but a monitor.
     
  11. orestes1984 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    If you have nothing constructive to add to this conversation don't add anything at all. I will say what I feel like, you can get back under the bridge.
     
  12. chenks macrumors 6502a

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    i would also point out that you didn't seem to have any issues with your appletv when you posted this - http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15984167&postcount=3
     
  13. orestes1984 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It doesn't matter... any half decent OS supports auto detection of whatever resolution your display is capable of and doesn't offer resolutions that can (rarely) blow up your display if you pick the wrong one.

    Furthermore the number of non-standard resolutions for sources suggests everything you say is blatantly wrong. Troll harder :rolleyes:

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    In the sense I am living with a compromise on a crappy OS yes... No wonder people Jailbreak.
     
  14. mic j macrumors 68030

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    I will verify that Chenks is not a "troll". He has been a contributor to this forum for a long while now and has provided a great deal of knowledge about the aTV system.

    If you buy and use a system outside of it's specifications, you can expect issues to occur. I would suggest returning it and trying to find a system that works with monitors.
     
  15. orestes1984 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I will verify that anyone who can't live with the facts and has to resort to this kind of behaviour is a Zealot at best. Now can we get on with the thread?

    I've been a Mac user for more than 15 years but its blowhards like this that make me wonder why...
     
  16. brentsg macrumors 68030

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    You would appear to be the one that doesn't like facts. You bought an appliance that isn't designed to work with your monitor.
     
  17. mic j macrumors 68030

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    We all know it isn't perfect. No one on this forum has even hinted that it is perfect. We just simply made the effort to understand it's design limitations and use it within those limitations. One limitation being it was designed for use with tv's not monitors. If you use it outside of it's design limitations, you may or may not have a good experience. In this case, yours was not good. So go find something that meets your needs. It's really not such a big deal that you need to be slandering the people that have joined this thread.
     
  18. orestes1984, Oct 8, 2012
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    I understand and live with the limitations but to say its the fault of the user for buying that TV and theres plenty of TVs that run non-standard resolutions then well, there is some fault by Apple here even if you choose to be a zealot and not accept it.

    Mods can lock this thread now, I'm out of here.
     
  19. mcnallym macrumors 6502a

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    To work with an ATV3 then you should have an HDTV capable of supporting 720p or 1080 as listed on the Tech Specs page.

    Nowhere in the tech specs of the ATV3 does it state that it supports using Monitors at other resolutions.

    Apple make the product for working with HDTV's and when plugged into a HDTV either 720p or 1080p then they work fine.

    1680 x 1050 is a 16:10 ratio rather then a 16:9 as found on Widescreen TV's, so I am not surprised that is not recognised by the ATV3.

    Apple gear is not perfect in that you can't connect it to whatever you want to and have it work at the best possible resolution, and the AppleTV3 is probably not the correct solution for your requirement.

    I find Apple equipment works fine when being used as Apple intended. It tends to not work as well when people use it outside the environment that Apple intend the product to work within.

    Being hooked up to non-TV resolution monitors not being something that Apple intend the ATV3 to be done.

    Apple is no different to other manufacturers in this kind of thing.

    I own a ATV mk1 which I connected to a Samsung R74 TV with the HDMI cable. It won't display iTunes media that is content protected as the ATV does not find any HDCP, so instead I am forced to run via component. I could select 1080i but on a 1366 x 768 then the 720p looks better to my eyes.

    When I raised this with Samsumg then the Support answer was that Apple had implemented a non-standard HDMI interface and that the problem was Apple's. This despite it working fine on an HDMI monitor. It turns out that Samsung simply didn't implement HDCP on the HDMI ports on the R74 tv sets, yet it is apparently Apple's fault that they don't work together, and the support team would not acknowledge that no HDCP on the HDMI interface, I had to dig this out on forums on the Internet myself.
     
  20. orestes1984, Oct 8, 2012
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    That's the thing, Apple products work fine in an Apple ecosystem but not so when you take them out of it and this is another example. This is why people use things like Android but neither Apple or its users seem to get that. Don't get me started on my Airport Extreme.

    I am a long time Apple user of many many years for as long as I've been old enough to know how to use a computer I've been in Mac environments if not owning one dating back to when I was 6 years old. It really does seem strange that I would actually get shunned for "thinking differently" :rolleyes: What happened to the days of it being more fun to be a pirate. Now it's more fun to be locked in a prison cell... Apparently...
     
  21. mic j macrumors 68030

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    You're not being shunned for "thinking differently". You're being shunned for calling people who have pointed out that you are not using the product as it was design to be used trolls and zealots, when we are not either of those.

    Play nice.
     
  22. SimonUK5 macrumors 6502

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    This just seems to me that you can't read the requirements on the box. It says you need a 720p/1080p Hi-Def TV for use properly. You clearly aren't using one, thus you have no grounds to complain on.

    What your doing is effectively buying a Bread toaster and expecting it to cook eggs. That **** don't happen.
     
  23. orestes1984, Oct 8, 2012
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    Use the product as it is intended is really not a helpful or relevant answer neither is what amounts to RTFM particularly when I've pointed out there are plenty of users with TVs using their TV as intended. It's really just flame bait. If you come in here and treat me with contempt you'll get the same response back.
     
  24. dynaflash macrumors 68020

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    Strangest thread I think I have ever read about the atv. ... and I have read a lot of them.
     
  25. mic j macrumors 68030

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    I'm surprised you would even have your name associated with this!! :eek:
     
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