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I have to say that I'm usually very sensitive to noise. If there is any noise from my 17" LED display than it's quieter than the fan and disk noise. I've heard displays with whines in the past, but there isn't any on this machine. So I have to disagree with statements that they all have them or it's a design flaw.
Yes, it's a very quiet noise, you can only hear it in a totally silent environment and you need to have a good hearing, older people usually can't hear it as it is a very high frequency.
The thing is from all the people who noticed the noise I haven't gotten any positive reports that a replacement unit doesn't have the noise, even from people who got their 6th replacement now.
 
There are multiple reports of this noise from 15" MPBs here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1426037&tstart=15

Not sure about the CCFL backlights, at least I haven't seen any reports yet.

I disagree, this thread referenced is filled with people who can't diagnose anything. The 15" MBPs seem to have a frequent problem with a right fan that buzzes badly. I know I have one. It's got nothing to do with screen noises. The 17" right fan also seems to buzz a bit but it's not as bad as the 15".

I'm assuming the people in this thread are talking about something else. The right fan does have a high frequency buzz, but it's clearly the fan. If that's what the people in this thread are complaining about then it's not "older" people that need their hearing checked.
 
I disagree, this thread referenced is filled with people who can't diagnose anything. The 15" MBPs seem to have a frequent problem with a right fan that buzzes badly. I know I have one. It's got nothing to do with screen noises. The 17" right fan also seems to buzz a bit but it's not as bad as the 15".

I'm assuming the people in this thread are talking about something else. The right fan does have a high frequency buzz, but it's clearly the fan. If that's what the people in this thread are complaining about then it's not "older" people that need their hearing checked.
Yes, for the most part they are talking about another problem, but there is at least one reference to a high pitched noise related to the brightness of the display there.

And no, I'm not saying your hearing is bad. It's just very difficult to diagnose, for instance when I got my replacement unit I was unpacking it in the kitchen (where the refrigerator emits a hum) and turning it on and checking for the noise with my head close to the right speaker and I couldn't hear it and thought it must be fixed. However, later when I took it to my room which is basically silent, I instantly could hear the noise.
 
I never noticed this until I was close to the screen and from 0 to 1 brightness I noticed a faint bzzz noise. Is this normal?
 
To clarify, the noise/buzz varies in volume depending on the backlight setting. It's loudest in the middle settings but yes you can clearly hear it stop and start by switching between off and the 1st square of brightness.

The noise is actually composed of many frequencies but the strongest is in approximately the same range as the fan buzz. In my case the right fan masked the sound enough that I didn't hear it from the screen at first. Still, on all 17's I have seen, the noise is at least as loud as the fan and is usually the loudest thing on the machine.

I disagree about needing a "silent" room to hear it; sure silent is relative, but once you notice it's pretty easy to pick out in what I consider a normal working environment. Again, with 16 different backlight settings there are 16 possible volumes for the noise, but it's always there and really should not be at all.

I wanted to use my 17" MBP partly for audio work and this is pretty annoying for me, but I would guess at least 50% of people will never notice. Here's hoping someone at Apple does... eventually. Since the 15" was not an option due to audio problems of their own, I've completely jumped ship and gone to a black Macbook paired with a desktop LCD. Loving it, and both are dead silent. :D
 
To clarify, the noise/buzz varies in volume depending on the backlight setting. It's loudest in the middle settings but yes you can clearly hear it stop and start by switching between off and the 1st square of brightness.

The noise is actually composed of many frequencies but the strongest is in approximately the same range as the fan buzz. In my case the right fan masked the sound enough that I didn't hear it from the screen at first. Still, on all 17's I have seen, the noise is at least as loud as the fan and is usually the loudest thing on the machine.

I disagree about needing a "silent" room to hear it; sure silent is relative, but once you notice it's pretty easy to pick out in what I consider a normal working environment. Again, with 16 different backlight settings there are 16 possible volumes for the noise, but it's always there and really should not be at all.

I wanted to use my 17" MBP partly for audio work and this is pretty annoying for me, but I would guess at least 50% of people will never notice. Here's hoping someone at Apple does... eventually. Since the 15" was not an option due to audio problems of their own, I've completely jumped ship and gone to a black Macbook paired with a desktop LCD. Loving it, and both are dead silent. :D

I was thinking about exchanging my 17" hi res mbp for a white 2.4Ghz macbook and just pairing it with my cinema display since I dont do any gaming.. do you think if I show the genius about the buzz noise that they would let me do an exchange without the restocking fee or would they look at me like I"m crazy?

The noise doesnt bother me much because I'd have to put my ear pretty close to the macbook pro sign to hear it, but I'm actually thinking about downgrading and pocketing the extra $$ and use a macbook + 23" ACD as my main machine. Only thing that would bother me is the lack of firewire 800 and no led screen but I think I can do without those.
 
The strange thing is that the noise isnt present in windows vista.. only when the brightness is at 50% it turns into a high pitched sound but in osx I clearly hear the buzz noise but at full brightness under windows I dont hear it at all.

Maybe its related to some energy settings in osx??
 
This is very strange, I restarted osx and zapped the pram and for the first 5-8 seconds on the apple logo boot sign there was no more buzz noise! Then when it loaded up to osx the buzz noise resumed! Could it possibly be something with leopard and an update would fix it??
 
This all sounds a lot like the backlight inverter problem that plagued some of the first-generation MacBook Pros.
 
Thats the thing though led backlighting doesnt have inverters.

While "inverter" may not be the right word there is still something regulating power to the backlight that is giving off this buzz, and it sounds very similar to a buzzing inverter as well, which I had once on a previous gen 17" MBP (CCFL backlit). Replacing the screen back then solved the buzz. This problem unfortunately affects all 17" LED models, with no fix in sight.
 
I wonder if there could be an efi update to fix this issue? Because I noticed that in windows at full brightness there is no buzz noise at all but in 50% brightness there is a higher pitched noise.

I guess this will cause a problem in the future so I should just get a refund?
 
Why LED backlight does not need the inverter?
AFAIK LEDs are driven by a constant low voltage, e.g. 5V (which needs to be produced by some inverter as well, but which usually is not part of the display). The brightness is controlled through PWM (Pulse Width Modulation), which basically turns the LEDs on and off in a certain frequency (fast enough so the eye won't notice) to achieve the intended brightness. IIRC the brightness of a CCFL tube is controlled by the voltage applied to it, also the voltage is much higher, e.g. 30000V, thus an inverter is needed to control the brightness in this case.
 
I wonder if there could be an efi update to fix this issue? Because I noticed that in windows at full brightness there is no buzz noise at all but in 50% brightness there is a higher pitched noise.

I guess this will cause a problem in the future so I should just get a refund?
Personally I believe there is a problem in the circuitry which generates control signals for the backlight, something like a capacitor too close to another element or something else like that (I'm no electrical engineer :) )

Since this circuitry seems to be software controlled you probably can play around with certain parameters to try to eliminate the noise but I would not put much hope in it, since this seems to be more of a general fault (I'd love to get proven wrong though :) )
 
Couldnt take the buzz.. there is really something wrong with them as the 15" mbp doesnt have this issue.
 
Personally I believe there is a problem in the circuitry which generates control signals for the backlight, something like a capacitor too close to another element or something else like that (I'm no electrical engineer :) )

Since this circuitry seems to be software controlled you probably can play around with certain parameters to try to eliminate the noise but I would not put much hope in it, since this seems to be more of a general fault (I'd love to get proven wrong though :) )

Just showed it to the genius today and got an exchange with no restocking fee for a 2.4Ghz macbook and am very happy with it! Nice, cool, quiet, fast, macbook =D plus pocketing the $$$ is very nice! :D

The weird/funny thing is that the genius tried to tell me he didnt hear anything but then he was like BUT I did hear a a high pitch noise and I was like yes thats it! He actually told me that if I get a new 17" hi res that it will do the same thing so that clearly told me there were other people that came in to return their 17" hi res before. I also told him that its not as bad here but when your in a quiet room or on your couch/bed in a quiet room.. man that noise just gets sucked into your mind and that high pitch gives you a headache~!
 
I guess I'll have to be the dissenting vote here. I've got two 17" hi-res machines in my house and I just don't hear this sound at all. I am very sensitive to sound and hear fan noise and disk noise others claim to not hear. But not this sound.
 
Couldnt take the buzz.. there is really something wrong with them as the 15" mbp doesnt have this issue.

So let's see, you been through a 17", then a 15", then a 17", now back to a 15"? I agree that you should get the machine that fits your needs but I'm sensing a pattern here.
 
So let's see, you been through a 17", then a 15", then a 17", now back to a 15"? I agree that you should get the machine that fits your needs but I'm sensing a pattern here.

Yes I had a 17" hi res 2.5Ghz that I bought from macmall.com while I had my Mac Pro that's on my sig. I found that I wanted to keep 1 machine and I sold the 17" losing $150 after 2 months of owning it and kept using the mac pro.

Then I used the $$ I got from the 17" mbp and bought the mba for a week but the screen had some issues with white lines that appeared under solid black backgrounds and showed it to the genius and the manager clearly saw it on the spot and agreed to swap me out with a new one but I asked for a 2.5Ghz 15" mbp instead and then I sold my mac pro and lost $300 after owning it for 4 months.

Then I continued to use the 2.5Ghz mbp then I wanted something a bit more powerful/bigger as I sold my mac pro and I did have this led charging problem with the 2.5Ghz mbp and the manager let me swap it out again but this time for the 2.6Ghz 17" hi res mbp.

Then I used the 17" hi res for a day it was perfect and I did hear that noise and while in my quiet room that noise drove me crazy while giving me a headache from the high pitched sound and I clearly remember that the first 17" 2.5Ghz hi res mbp that I had, had no such buzz noise so I took it back manager heard again and apologized for all these problems and I just told him this time I'd try out the 2.4Ghz macbook and got my $1800 back and now happy using it connected to the 23" ACD.

The price is right for the notebook, the performance is pretty much the same as the 2.5Ghz mbp that I had minus the gpu as I dont game at all or use any kind of 3d app and going to happily wait for Nehalem. Not to mention my computing experience feels exactly the same as the 2.5Ghz mbp and while pocketing $$$ in the end is very nice. =D

Even in the future I think I will stick with the macbook lineups as they are the best performance for the $$$. I'm pretty sure it will get led backlighting by 2009 and with nehalem it will be even better for the $$$.
 
I have the same issue...it seems to be getting worse the longer ive owned the laptop.

I have a 3 month old 2.4Ghz with a 17" Non-lcd backlit screen...i bought it just before the update came out for the 17"

When the screen is on full brightness the sound can be heard over music. If i go down one notch it turns down. Driving me crazy!

Ive recorded a video of it happening with my iSight and Mic. Turn your speakers up but you can see its annoying.

http://vimeo.com/987951 (Need to wait til its finished encoding) or you can download the .mov HERE

Im going to go to an apple store tomo with it i think.

EDIT - Forgot to say that mine isnt a Penryn. It was purchase a couple of months before.
 
I have the same issue...it seems to be getting worse the longer ive owned the laptop.

I have a 3 month old 2.4Ghz with a 17" Non-lcd backlit screen...i bought it just before the update came out for the 17"

When the screen is on full brightness the sound can be heard over music. If i go down one notch it turns down. Driving me crazy!

Ive recorded a video of it happening with my iSight and Mic. Turn your speakers up but you can see its annoying.

http://vimeo.com/987951 (Need to wait til its finished encoding) or you can download the .mov HERE

Im going to go to an apple store tomo with it i think.

EDIT - Forgot to say that mine isnt a Penryn. It was purchase a couple of months before.

Whoa that seems alot worse than what I remembered.. the issue with the 17" hi res led that I had was I had to be pretty close to hear the high pitch buzz noise but that does kind of sound like the noise that windows vista made at 50% but not as loud. Also your model is ccfl.. maybe inverter problems?
 
Maybe...going to take it to the authorized apple reseller here in Vancouver.
We dont have an apple store yet....i think it opens in Sept.

The noise appears regardless if im running OSX or Win XP. I have the hi res 17" matte screen.

ill report and see what they say
 
OK....so my Mac was in and I have it back.

They have ordered a new display unit for the laptop and as 17" MBP comes in one i get a new LED backlid display (i didnt have one before) and a new top case. My old one got a small dent which has been annoying me.

They have ordered the part and it should be getting done either Tues or Wed.
 
OK....so my Mac was in and I have it back.

They have ordered a new display unit for the laptop and as 17" MBP comes in one i get a new LED backlid display (i didnt have one before) and a new top case. My old one got a small dent which has been annoying me.

They have ordered the part and it should be getting done either Tues or Wed.

Are you sure your getting an led backlit screen on the older 17" mbp? Only the 1920x1200 hi res display of the current models (not the 1680x1050) have the led backlit technology) and I dont think that's possible unless they replaced the whole logic board with the new led screen.
 
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