Although I'm sure most of you have read comments about the 17'' being dim, I finally was able to see it in person. I checked out both matte, and glossy, at the Spectrum Apple Store ( Irvine, Ca). It's way less dark then the other models, and it was actually bad enough I wouldn't purchase the laptop until a definite fix was coming. I'm not a super picky person, and I've never returned an apple product ( I don't care about slight little marks/alignments etc), but the screen was dim. On another note, I was impressed by the matte display. I like the black border around the display better, but I'd sacrifice that for the matte option. Once they get the brightness fixed, I'd like to play a movie on both computers, and then make my final selection.