17" MBP Less Problems than 15.4"?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by Xander562, May 30, 2006.

  1. Xander562 macrumors 68000


    Apr 2, 2006
    Hello, i've heard some people say that besides the screen and the optical drive, that the MBP 17" is actually a BETTER computer than the 15.4". Meaning it has less defects, less whine issues, and less heat, things like that. Also, it is rumored that the 17's Graphics chip is clocked higher. are these things true? this is seriously making me lean more towards the 17" rather than the 15.4" Please give me some info.
  2. yah00z macrumors regular

    May 21, 2006
    This is far from the truth...

    Okay... Let me break it down for you

    There are less 17"MBP out there than 15"MBP. The more people there are with the 15"MBP, the more people that are going to express there opinions about problems with it. For instance, my local Apple store has sold about 10 times the amount of 15"mbp as they have 17"mbp.

    I took a look at the 17 inch in person today, and it had the CPU whine, and the temperature got up to about 87 degree celcius. The most I have ever had my 15.4inch MBP to is 70degree celcius. Currently I am at 44degrees cslcius with tons of applications running. So in my opinion, it's not due to the fact there are LESS problems with the 17 inches, it's that there are less people using them, therefore less people reporting problems with them
  3. Transeau macrumors 6502a


    Jan 18, 2005
    Alta Loma, CA
    My 17" has no whine - it's almost completely silent. Just the fan when I'm pushing it. It idles at about 42c and peaks at 73c. The audio is perfect too.

    The only issue I have is that the LCD's hinge is too loose. My replacement is to ship this coming Friday.

    All in all, I do feel that my 17" MBP is a better notebook than the 15" MBP that it replaced.
  4. Transeau macrumors 6502a


    Jan 18, 2005
    Alta Loma, CA
    I disagree. I don't feel that the amount sold has anything to do with it.

    Look at it this way. You are far more likely to hear about a common problem with a 5-Series BMW than you are to hear about a common problem with a Kia Rio.

    The reason? People that spend $65,000 are going to me a LOT more vocal than people spending $7,000.

    For me, I paid $2200 for my 15" MacBook Pro and $3100 for my 17" MacBook Pro. I was a LOT more vocal about my 17" LCD being too loose than I was about my 15" making too much noise, too much heat and distortion from my right speaker.

    (Please don't jump on me - I'm not comparing all of your 15" MacBook Pro's to a Kia Rio)
  5. yah00z macrumors regular

    May 21, 2006

    You call it whatever you want. There is no reason the 15 inch model should COME WITH more problems than the 17 inch, let alone come with ANY problems at all. I am very dissapointed in Apple. I have been a PC guy for the past 10 years. The last Macintosh I purchased was a Performa 6400/200. My 15 inch MacBook Pro came with a line of stuck pixles, a CPU whine, a bad key on the keyboard, and alot of heat issues. They did not want to replace it untill I basically told them "Fine, give me a refund and I will purchase a laptop from Gateway"
  6. yah00z macrumors regular

    May 21, 2006

    saw the 17 inch and it had more problems than my 15

    the display was way loose, the whine was terrible, and the heat was so bad i was instantly burned and ended up with three blisters from touching a display system at the apple store :mad: it hurtbig time
  7. rickylacoste macrumors newbie


    Jun 23, 2006
    Hi, first post here...

    My MBP 15'4 is perfect, with no whine, not too much heat and nothing else.
  8. AirFoil macrumors newbie

    Jan 22, 2005
    San Francisco Bay Area, CA
    Instantly burned?

    Sue. ;)

    Forgive me for making light of your situation if it happened as you described, but the mental image I have of someone simply touching a system and getting burned is quite amusing.
  9. yah00z macrumors regular

    May 21, 2006
    The Apple Store guys even said to me

    "Please don't do that around here, we are trying to SELL these computers, okay?" can you believe that?!?!

    and yes- it happend just like that

    the machine had been running pretty much all day, and right when i touched it i seriously ended up with three blisters on the TIPS of my fingers
  10. Xander562 thread starter macrumors 68000


    Apr 2, 2006
    wow, i thought this thread was dead...
    well i have a 15.4" MBP and am using it right now.
    Heat: it gets pretty hot. but i'm using, and always plan to use, it on a table. the heat on the wrist-rest area is not bad at all. just slightly warm

    Whine: barely any whine VERY VERY quiet. but maybe i just got lucky??:p

    so far absolutely NO problems. a VERY fast machine. i am sooooo glad i made the switch.
  11. kingcrowing macrumors 6502a


    May 24, 2004
    Burlington, VT
    Well I looked at a 15" and 17" Macbook Pro at Small Dog, and they 15" was much hotter than the 17", and it makes since. they top end 15" and 17" have all the same components (well the 17" has a FW800 and a better optical drive) but it has much more area to dissapate heat, the speakers sounded great on the 17", and there was no whine (I havent heard of anybody complain of whine/moo on the 17" at all) and the 17" also has better graphical performance than the 15" (it clocks itself up while gaming/doing 3D intensive stuff)
  12. Some_Big_Spoon macrumors 6502a


    Jun 17, 2003
    New York, NY
    I also think too that the 15" was really a "prototype" model put into production as a way of getting it out there at the launch of the CoreDuo's. It seems like they did a slight refit to the PB's and out they went. The 17" had a bit more time, though not much, to possibly be tested and have some kinks worked out. That and the larger casing, yada, yada.

    I think we'll see a big overhaul in the next official revision or two to really make it a "MacBook Pro" instead of a PowerBook with a coreduo.

    Just my 2cents.

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