17inch and 19inch iMacs

[IJ Reilly]

G4 iMac is the New Cube

Does anybody remember Steve's famous Mac product matrix? We haven't seen it for quite a while -- since the introduction of the Cube in fact. But that's when Apple opened up a column between the consumer iMac and pro PowerMac. With the eMac now occupying the consumer column, Apple can afford to push the iMac into the pro-sumer position formerly occupied by the Cube, and at virtually the same price-point, ironically. By that logic, dropping the 15" iMac entirely and introducing 19" iMacs priced at around two grand makes pretty good sense, provided they can also sell an entry-level 17" iMac at around $1,400.

 

[gooddog]

HHHHEEYYYYY !!!!!! HHEEEYY !!!

STOP THAT !!!!!!!!

Stop badmouthing the 19" iMac PPPUUUHHHLLEEEZZZZ !

I am adrool for this babe at X-mas time.

And I am extatic with my 15" FP iMac too.

Those of us who are not actually "pro" but would like to start on

FinalCutPro .. etc. need the LCD realestate to see content and panels in one

screen. We do NOT want a CRT either so don't mention it.

We should not worry about the looks -- trust Apple designers to handle that.

They could easily tighten the tension on the arm, add another drive or a lump

of lead (jokie, jokie, jokie) and take care of stability.

The only wish I would have, is for UPGRADEABLE GRAPHICS & SOUND , and an

aspect ratio of 16 X 9 . If it is not 16 X 9, then it should be

WIDER (not taller as 16 X 10) because there ARE some anamorphic DVD's that

have wider-than-16X9 ratios, but none that have this taller (16X10) ratio.

---gooddog

 

[SilvorX]

Originally posted by arn
I'm still surprised... I guess LCD prices are dropping...

Still, a 19" iMac seems a bit much.

arn

$2500 US ATLEAST...a lil too much for the canadians...so apple better keep the 15" screen (would be great for ppl who dont mind screen size n such...aka ppl who dont know squat bout puters 😛)

 

[NHMac]

I have to say I would be very tempted by a 19" iMac. I would replace my 19 CRT and circa 2000 Dual 500G4 and get the DVD burning function I crave. Go for it Steve.

 

[reyesmac]

iMacs can't cost more than $2,000

Why does everyone think this 19in iMac will cost more than $1,999? You can get a 19in studio display for $999, and you know Apple makes a big profit on those. Ad that to the fact that the iMac is based on technology that they have been using in Powermacs since the year 2000. Subtract the cost of the 15in screen from the cheapest iMac and the base comes out to around $1,000, I am sure it costs Apple much less to manufacture it than that. Ad a $1000 screen (with profit margin already added) and you have the $1,999 iMac.

What worries me however is that if Apple wants to maximize their profits on it, they will not update the internals of the base with a speedbump. If they do, this will be a great machine to own.

 

[daRAT]

Originally posted by medea
personally I wouldn't pick the 19" over the 17" anyways, the 15" was perfectly proportionate to the imac base and the 17" was pushing it already, 19" would be over the line.

*blink*

So you are saying because the iMac wouldn't look good, that you prefer a smaller screen?

 

[daRAT]

Re: Re: Re: Cool, new toys.

Originally posted by reyesmac


Thank you for your honest answer and I do appreciate it. What I want to know is, is there anyone reading this that has upgraded their computer from at least a Powermac B/W or G4 tower to any kind of flat panel iMac and been completely satisfied with it for semi pro work? Do you see it lasting longer than your powermac?

I bought my blue and white because at the time the iMacs stunk, it was money well spent because this machine is usefull in OS 9 and it still has some things I can upgrade. But I wont bother if an iMac/eMac would be a better investment.

I haven't upgraded my Cube to a new iMac, the 450 Cube with Jag still rocks on. Due to the new processor upgrades from Sonnett and Powerlogic, I doubt I will upgrade the whole machine.

Stay away from the eMac, my local Mac dealer showed me the horrible breakdown in the video, the screen crunched to half it's height and was tappered on the bottom. Plus those eMac's sound like a f-14 tomcat in volumne of noise.

BTTT, I think a 17" iMac could be used for semi-pro work, espeically as a lower end "second machine", and have a G4 tower crunching data/compling etc.

I use my Cube for the serious stuff and my brand new P4 2ghz for not so critical stuff.... I don't trust XP alone with my work 😛


Thats one rat's opinion :]

 

[Billy_ca]

This is great news! A 19" iMac would almost certainly mean a price drop on the 17" widescreen I'm looking at lustfully.

 

[dongmin]

Re: iMacs can't cost more than $2,000

Originally posted by reyesmac
Why does everyone think this 19in iMac will cost more than $1,999? You can get a 19in studio display for $999, and you know Apple makes a big profit on those.

If you're referring to Apple Studio Displays, they haven't released a 19" yet. The 17" goes for $999.

And unless you've seen a part by part breakdown of the cost of manufacturing an iMac, I'd be careful in throwing out numbers like that. It's possible they'll introduce the 19" for $2000 but knowing Apple, I would say two grand is a bit wishful thinking. More like $2199.

I too am hoping that the 19" imac rumors mean 19" Studio Displays are on their way. I've been lusting for an Apple LCD for a while. $999 for a 17" seems a bit much. I'd probably get one for $799. If they released a wide screen 19" for $1099, I'd be tempted for that as well.

 

[Sherman]

Isn't that like $25 US? Which is still negative money in canadian $.

Damn, this is really starting to annoy me. All these new products that are being rumored and still no actual new PowerBook G4.

I want it! I need it soon! EEEEEEEE!!!!!

 

[gooddog]

OK I'M TRUE EXPERT NOW 🙂

Just saw the 17" iMac at the CompUSA Macintosh Graveyard Corner.

First impression: it's not as huge as I expected. By no means does it dwarf the dome base. It could easily stand a 19" version.

Either way, anamorphic DVD's in 16 X 9 should look quite lovely in the new aspect ratio.

The clear plastic halo has now been placed in front of the white frame (I guess to keep the white part clean) BUT IT DOESN"T LOOK NICE ---

The off-offf-off white border around the 15" iMac CAN be kept pretty by not pawing it (use Seal's technique) . The 17" looks kinda cheaper for the change.

APPLE : Please put it back as it was for the 19" model so I won't have to glue a
picture frame matte border around my 19" FPiMAC !!!! PPPLLLEEEEEZZZZZ !

Since the OS installed at these stores is restricted so you don't have access to System Preferences etc. --- I cannot speak for any performance boost.

They had only one 30 second cheesy song demo for iTunes and I tried it with the visualizer at full screen , large. It was great as usual.

I found no pics in iPhoto. The QT movie previews could not be maximized as in my home version of Jaguire and could not be saved to later enlarge as in mine.

Also, my favorite Jag feature -- ZOOM VIEW - in Universal Access---- did not ZOOM the QT screen of movie trailers as it does at home.

It is as if someone deliberately hid the Jag's lights under a bushel basket at every turn... I don't get it.

My only gambit to get folks to look at the 17" beauty was to leave it on visualizer, with no sound.

A SoundStick JellyFish subwoofer sat unconnected under the table , so the litle "PRO" crystall ball speakers farted away horribly when any bass came to them.

SAD , BUT --- I WOULD HAVE LOVED THE FIRST FP IMAC I BOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN THIS ONE !!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

And when it grows up to 19" , ---- I SHALL PURCHASE ONCE AGAIN--- MMMUUUAAAHHH HHAAAAA HHAAAAA 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 😉


---gooddog

 

[mcrain]

You know what I would like to see?

People here have talked about duel monitoring the iMacs and have also talked about stand alone 19" screens.

I'd like to see a 17 or 19 inch screen on an imac base that is just the screen on top of a base that just holds the screen and arm, and connects to the iMac (with computer) with a base to base connector.

I'd buy a 19" iMac and a second 19" iScreen. Connect the two and you'd then have two floating screens on your desk. Put the iPod dock between the two, and you've got a system I'd buy in a heartbeat.

From a marketing standpoint, 19" should sell better than 17" despite how it might look. Lots of consumers just want MORE of whatever. More Mhz, more screen size, more ram, more hard drive space, whatever. Many people look at the tags in front of the computers and select whichever one has the biggest numbers that fits in their budget regardless of form or functionality. I mean, haven't you seen someone walking around with a 15" screened notebook with dvd, thick base, huge hard drive, removable media, etc., etc., when all they really needed was a lightweight computer like a 12" imac?

I can tell you I'm one of those people who goes for the numbers, and I'm not alone.