Sorry about the title. Meant to say 18-200mm IS or 17-85mm USM IS So I am going to buy a Canon 60D tomorrow, and I have been offered two packages from a local camera store. 1) 60D + 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS for $1199 2) 60D + 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM for $1249 Keep in mind prices are in Canadian Dollars (CAD). Both packages come with a Canon camera bag, HDMI cable, and extended warranty. I've done some research online and it appears people have been having hardware problems with the 17-85mm. I am basically looking for a walk around lens and so that is why these two are my choices. I do have a 50mm 1.8 as well.