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To be BLOWN Away WE NEed some G5 POWER ;)

My mothers PC just broke down :(
I just selected quit in Illustrator and nothing happens. THen after some time i press the famous ctrl+alt+del
The message is clear -> The program is not responding.
I choose to quit the program. Nothing happens. I press ctrl+alt+del 2 times to restart. The computer restarts, but the screen just stays black. Nothing happens. I had to unplugg it to make it work again. Thnx M$, u GAYS make my dag !
 
we dont NEED g5 power and g3s are fine.

first of all they need to streamline the OS (esp. quartz)for g3s. my iBook 600 runs nicely, but not nicely enough considering 640MB RAM. i would appreciate a very advanced OS X install option in order to customize kernel support for things i may or may not use. this would come along with a nice help feature akin to that used in linux kernel building.

secondly, i could care less if the new hardware ran at a GHz, as long as the bus speed, pipeline bandwidth, and other underlying structures are groundbreaking (not utilizing the lates and greatest, but surpassing it). it would be nice to see a machine that could multitask snappily on simply 128MB RAM. it can be done.

finally, apple software is always the key. we all know that hardware means nothing without software implementation (e.g. Pentium4). i reiterate my belief that processor/chipset specific kernel implementation is key and also believe that apple must make the full shift NOW to OS X.
 
Re: I know guys, I know

Originally posted by agreenster
First off, sorry for flying off the handle. It just frustrates me on both ends. Dont think I wouldnt love to wake up Monday morning and hear that Apple has anounced a 3gHz G5. I would probably pee my pants. But I try to be realistic, and patient with technology. It seems like sometimes that people now 'expect' computer companies (especially Apple) to make huge gains in IT and create computers that will send us to the moon.

I trust Apple. I do. I think that when they release a computer, they dont do it to make bucks like Bill, and Dell, and Gateway do. They dont advertise cost. They advertise quality, performance, and style. They dont have an annoying kid on TV yelling at moms to buy their kids a PC or any other piece of **** at BestBuy. They are refined, and so are their systems.

So I guess whenever I hear that people are unimpressed, I take it as they dont realize that Apple is actually bringing you the very best quality they can give you, and dont focus on how much money they can swindle you out of. They are an excellent company, and when I hear that people dont respect them, especially Apple faithfuls, I get really pissed.

They dont sell ****, so I dont expect people to give **** back to them.
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I know apple does not sell s**t! Thats why I am using a powermac 8600 (6/7 years old)! I am in the market for a new mac though, + dont want to buy a G4 when a G5 is just round the corner.
 
Sparkletone, YOU might not need G5 power, but some of us sure as hell do. I'd rather be more productive than sipping coffee while watching render progress bars. Video, DVD, Audio, Graphics all need more power. Given more power than we really ned will give software writers the chance to use it to make even better more powerful programs!
 
Funny - I always thought that MHz really didn't matter.

I've just gone through this thread, and found that some of you are still hung up on this myth. Because PC's use CISC architecture, and Macs use RISC chips, even an iMac can hold it's own quite comfortably with a Pentium 3 in the high MHz/early GHz range.

It's the SOFTWARE, stupid!

Mac programs have always been of a smaller size, more stable and even faster, when written in their native code, to their PC counterparts. So I say let the Pentium chips fry under the intense heat produced by billions of computations per second, when a low-end G4 can get the same result in half the time, and get half as hot.

I have a Cube, and I love it for the fact that it's silent - it's very clever convection cooling design allows the exclusion of a fan, and in most computers that usually sounds like a 747 taking off.

Finally, I've said it before - now I'll say it again...

...I don't care if I have to wait around 0.3 of a millisecond before my spreadsheet opens. I could give not a rat's ass that I'm only getting 50fps in Aliens Vs. Predator instead of 65fps (geez - TV is only 24fps!). And I definitely could not show any interest in a G5 - especially when I spent @£2000 on the computer of my dreams not 11 months ago.

...My wife would be proud to hear me say that...
 
G4 1.6Ghz=high end or 1Ghz Pentium=low end???

While I dream of owning an over 1Ghz Mac, my brother built himself a 1.2 Ghz computer for less than the cheapest iMac. Breaking the over 1Ghz barrier is nice but how many people can afford a high end G4? Unless all the people exclaiming the virtues of the 1Ghz G4 plan to actually buy one THIS YEAR then all this talking is pointless. Because of freaking Motorola being so late in bringing us faster chips, all Apple has managed to do in the last few years is either be slightly faster than the competition for 2 months at the most or have the highest quality computer at its mhz level. And if you are comparing the 867 G4 to a two year old 867 Mhz pentium, well, we should not have to settle for a great computer/platform with a slow processor. If you want to be honest about speed, then we should really be comparing only the G3 any other consumer machine you can buy at a retail store. Instead, we talk about apples top-of-the-line G4 in its multi-thousand dollar machines. Man, all this talk makes me think I won't be satisfied with anything less than a G4 imac at $1,000.
 
Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Funny - I always thought that MHz really didn't matter.
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It mathers!! I don`t want a Mac with a 200MHz speedbump. I want a mac with a 1GHz speedbump. A G5 1.6GHz is faster than a G4 1GHz. MHz does mathers !
 
What do you want to do today?

The deal is F/re, what do you need the speed for?

Apple certainly wouldn't let the millions of consumers who have/are still buying iMacs to go out in the cold. Therefore, software has to be compatible with those processors as well.

I can certainly understand if you're doing high-quality video editing, that a fast G5 is the way to go. However, being a Television Cameraman, and having many editor friends who have bought Quicksilvers, we are all in agreement that Final Cut Pro blows away even Avid systems. And that's just on a G4 for broadcast.

Also, CNN apparently use FCP on the road, editing with their Powerbook G4's. I can't see a problem with their footage...
 
The last thing I want to see from apple at the moment would be a high-GHz chip just to impress ppl. However, I think that the G5 is well overdue; this isn't apple's fault - it's motorola's - they're really f*cking apple about at the moment. Apple needs to take chip development in-house.

And just a question - if their desktop comps run at 1GHz or whatever, how can they then explain why their best laptop runs at only up to 667MHz?

I think that Apple either need to a) rename their chips with rough Pentium4 MHz equivs like AMD has done - like the G4 Apollo 1800. or b) Find a new system of measurement and use it. Obviously option a is probably better - you can still give the masses big numbers but still produce high-quality chips...
 
Let me get this straight...

So Falleron - does that mean you're in the past now?

And if so - are you going to fork out a small fortune after taking out another mortgage on your home, pawning your watch and selling your dog just to get your hands on the latest and greatest - only to find that the OPTIMISED software that it only runs costs almost as much as the CPU itself?

Hmmm?

And what do you say to the great unwashed who'd just bought their G3 iMac, hoping that it would be sufficiently future-proofed to write their letters, edit their movies, burn their CD's and play the latest games...
 
Its not such a big problem with the laptops because I believe that the fastest pc laptop runs at 1.2Ghz and not 2Ghz. A chip upgrade from apple will close this gap.
 
what's the deal with having 3 different processors in apple's lineup? they still can't get the g4 into a cheap machine. don't go around saying that they NEED to release the g5. it would have been nice if all they did in november was put slow-ER g4's in the current iMac line and now realease the g5.
 
Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
At least you know that you'll be in for big savings on G4's if the G5 comes out on Monday...
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True, but I would splash out on a G5 if they existed! I dont tend to buy new computers very often (student budgets!)
 
being that the (true) g5 is a 64bit processor and that this will be the first consumer-based chip as such, i would think many people would shy from a g4.

another thing we must remember is OS X support for the g5 is not there yet, and the feeling is strong that 10.2 is not coming early no matter what.
 
Kenel customizing

Darwin/OS X runs on the Mach micro-kernel as opposed to Windows and Linux's monolithic kernels. While the your idea would be great for those (as it always has been for Linux), it doesn't apply to micro-kernels.

I'm not that much of a bit-nerd but from the cob-webbed corners of my brain I an remember reading that one of advantages of the micro-kernel was that it was extremely small and it loads only the pieces it needs for current environment. (Which sounds a little like Linux's kenel modules, but I'm sure it's very different)

-Eric
 
Well Said SPG!!

Hey SPG,
Your line ("If being an Apple fan means loving anything Apple puts out than I am not a fan") was about the best thing I've read on any Mac-centric site. Well said.
peace,
lazyrighteye
 
Re: Well Said SPG!!

Originally posted by lazyrighteye
Hey SPG,
Your line ("If being an Apple fan means loving anything Apple puts out than I am not a fan") was about the best thing I've read on any Mac-centric site. Well said.
peace,
lazyrighteye
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Yay! I have a groupie too!

Seriously though, I just wanted to point out that as much as I do like the product, I can't be a blind follower...isn't that one of Apple's selling points that we are not blind followers?
 
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