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'1Password 6' for Mac Brings Revamped Password Generator, iCloud Sync for Non Mac App Store Version
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Quu
macrumors 68040
1Password is way better. It costs more but so do Macs vs PC's we all know why, quality.
I only have two bullet points that have been on the 1Password roadmap for almost 2 years now and really should get integrated.
- Option to rename vaults especially the default ( primary ) vault.
- Option to sync multiple vaults with iCloud
That's it then..
- Option to rename vaults especially the default ( primary ) vault.
- Option to sync multiple vaults with iCloud
That's it then..
You can just wait for discounts (use appshopper notification).
Remember that 1Password is one time purchase and you don't need to have a year subscription.
I'm using 1Password for more than a year and I can tell you for sure that is the best app I have bought.
00sjsl
macrumors regular
There was time when Apple key chain did not sync. But in addition to that:
It does not lock you into the Apple ecosystem
It uses passphrase as oposed to a password, so is potentialy more secure (although that is less of a thing with two factor authentication).
For me its less anoying, since you can set the timeout before you have to re-enter your password.
John.B
macrumors 601
One huge annoyance with iCloud Keychain is the inability to simply update a saved password (or login), à la recent versions of Firefox.
techpr
macrumors 6502a
Once you learn 1Password you will never go back to the plain simple iCloud Keychain. I have been using 1Password since version 2 (around 8 years ago) and every update is a huge improvement.
Sync to iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch/Watch/Mac/Windows. The best App!!!
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You get what you pay for. 1Password is a much advanced application.
John.B
macrumors 601
If you're really paranoid - and when it's about your most intimate passwords, you should be - then you wouldn't use any cloud based service for syncing. In fact it is worth mentioning that 1password also supports "file based syncing". Off course that's only useful if you have a network share that you control (like a NAS, for instance). Like this is sync all my Macs.
Syncing to mobile devices takes an extra - manual - step via "Wi-Fi Sync", but that's okay, as you usually don't add passwords each day (I sync with my mobile devices maybe once a months or so).
KnighsTalker
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beanbaguk
macrumors 65816
Lack of cross-platform ability is the biggest. I also use KeyChain on my Apple devices (MacBook's, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV), etc....however try and make KeyChain work on another environment.
1password excels at this.
mw360
macrumors 68020
'Seems to be.'
You would need to be a bit more precise about '$50 a pop' to make a fair comparison. It looks like I'm going to get four years of updates out of one $50 purchase, and for that amount my family each get their own copies too.
satcomer
Suspended
Well Last Pass was Hacked in 2012 and many people jumped! Anything with a central database is a target go become a baking target so many Mac users jumped to 1Password!
rdlink
macrumors 68040
I haven't noticed that, although I don't use Firefox. In Safari I am able to update passwords in iCloud Keychain (and 1Password) quite easily. If I change a password they both ask me if I want to update it.
Windows version
Android version
...or you can just open the database in a browser to get basic functionality
Use with any cloud service (e.g. DropBox)
...or don't use no stinkin' cloud and sync via a USB stick or local WiFi.
1Password is one of my favorite apps for the Mac, and one of the few third-party apps that I use. I'm occasionally tempted to go native with Keychain, but when tried it again a few weeks ago I just found it way less managable than 1Password. Although Keychain does the nuts and bolts, which is generating and saving passwords, anything beyond that feels like a PITA (or impossible) compared to 1Password. Oh well, I might try it again in a month or so.
And because I purchased 1Password from the company's store, I'm extremely happy it now supports iCloud sync.
And because I purchased 1Password from the company's store, I'm extremely happy it now supports iCloud sync.
n-evo
macrumors 68020
I really want to like and use this app full-time. But:
€49,99 for the OS X version
€9,99 for the iOS version
€11,16 for the Android version
Means I would have to pay a whopping €71,14 to get my MacBook Pro, iPhone 6s and NVIDIA Shield K1 tablet connected. That's just too much. 🙁
€49,99 for the OS X version
€9,99 for the iOS version
€11,16 for the Android version
Means I would have to pay a whopping €71,14 to get my MacBook Pro, iPhone 6s and NVIDIA Shield K1 tablet connected. That's just too much. 🙁
Isn't the 50$ price for a single license? If it can be shared amongst family members, then it might be worth it.
And to your point of you getting 4 year updates, I highly doubt that. This update to v6 was free but I think this is an anomaly? Usually, you pay an upgrade fee.
Thanks for this! Did not know about this at all. But from what I understand, users' passwords were not compromised. And plus, if you had enabled 2FA, you are doubly secure. LastPass came out relatively unscathed.
https://blog.lastpass.com/2015/06/lastpass-security-notice.html/
!Password with a cloud syncing option would also be protected similarly I suppose. Even if the keychain is compromised (say iCloud is hacked again), it would be very difficult to gather the passwords cause of encryption and the fact that the master key is not stored in the cloud.
Someone pointed here, use AppShopper to track a price drop on this. It was 32$ during the holidays.
Not sure about the mobile apps though. The whole setup, like you say, is quite expensive.
You could explore LastPass subscription at 12$/year. A lot cheaper and it gives you access to syncing across all your devices.
You could also explore Dashlane which is free if you are using it on any one device but asks for an expensive subscription if you want to sync. I am using this right now, only on my Mac. So it is free. It is better than the iCloud keychain cause it is easier to manage passwords, notes, license keys etc.
I am evaluating if I need passwords to sync across mobile devices as well and if I do, it will most likely be LastPass or the iCloud keychain (since I am currently using an iPhone and a Mac)
To be clear, iCloud was never hacked. People used poor passwords and Apple allowed multiple password attempts without some form of timeout between them.
mw360
macrumors 68020
Through the Mac App Store, Family Sharing is enabled so yes, one license works for everyone in the household.
I bought 1Password about 2 years ago (v4) I don't recall paying For the v5 update, and this v6 update is free too, so I'm going to get at least three years. Four years might be a stretch but these free updates are not so much an anomaly as a sympton of developers struggling with Apple's policies on upgrade pricing. I don't particular like taking advantage, but thats the way it is and I dont see Apple relenting any time soon.
n-evo
macrumors 68020
Nobody "hacked" iCloud. Those people used easy to guess passwords or the same password for every place they visit. Nor did they use two-factor authentication.