Imagine in a not so distant future the UK asking 1Password for a backdoor access
Well, before subscriptions, we used to pay to upgrade for major new versions ( and keep the license until we decide when to upgrade again. It’s not like people were buying software just once and forever.Why is it greedy? It's a service (e.g. cloud services) that runs in perpetuity, right? Isn't it better they just charge you directly via a subscription other than estimating your lifetime usage with a large upfront fee (which, if wrong, may cause the company to fail... or otherwise overcharge you)?
Nope. Are you thinking of Lastpass that people insist on still using despite multiple security issues?Isn't 1Password that password manager that leaked passwords?
I have transferred 95% (about 350 passwords) to the apple app. I do not intend to pay a subscription any more. I could pay a reasonable price for a new version of the app every 2-3 years, but no monthly
I took waaaaay too long to start using a password app. Starting using Apple Passwords this year. I’m slowly going through all my logins and updating using the suggested passwords.
Only thing I wish is that AP had something like a secure notes feature where I could put social security numbers, credit card numbers, etc.
Call that out for what it is- a cost-cutting (and lazy) measure1Password jumped the shark when it moved from native code to Electron
The discount 1P offered the 1st years made it easier to continue with them, when they went subscription. Just because I continued with 1P now, doesn't mean I do that later.I trust 1Password and I’ve been using it since their very beginning. Apple’s password manager is basically a watered-down version of 1Password, lacking many of its features. I store all kinds of information within 1Password, and retrieving things is easy, so it works well for me. 🤷♂️
You can self-host, it offers some compelling concepts for organizing as well as sharing- Apple is limited here and I don't expect passwords will get any better treatment than journal or clips. You can audit the code as well, which can't be said for 1Pass or Apple.
1Pass took a bunch of venture capital so there's pressure to grow but that may be at odds with user or security focus, will they do the right thing or chase the growth?
Bitwarden, notably, can be used via CLI. 1Pass regressed with regard to their autofill behavior as well.
I trust 1Password and I’ve been using it since their very beginning. Apple’s password manager is basically a watered-down version of 1Password, lacking many of its features. I store all kinds of information within 1Password, and retrieving things is easy, so it works well for me. 🤷♂️
Is it better than Passwords? I loved it until they did subscription. And by adding location I'd be just a bit more concerned. And of course the "best" is an opinion.Jesus Christ, it's incredible how everyone speaks badly of the best password manager in the world.
AgileBits saw the writing on the wall that told them consumers were not the future, but enterprise. Like firewalls, antivirus, etc. they knew password managers would soon be integrated in to the operating system.Yes it was a cash grab. 1Password was redesigned specifically to require a subscription. We used to be able to pay for a major version once and sync to a directory, which could be dropbox or something else. We're talking about maybe a few MiB of data if someone has many logins. Easily stored just about anywhere. They even went back and nerfed the browser extensions to intentionally break compatibility with old versions. I used to recommend them to everyone but haven't in many years.
I am not sure Jesus suffered for all subscriptions we have to endure though 😉Jesus Christ, it's incredible how everyone speaks badly of the best password manager in the world.