1Password migrants thread

[Apple_Robert]

I use Myki. Migrated from 1Password very easily. They have a free tier. It syncs between Mac and IOS. It stores passwords locally.

Looking at the website, I see that the app doesn't use / require a master password and relies on biometrics or a PIN to unlock the vault. That is putting a lot of trust in the biometrics (alone).

I see Myki wants your phone number in order to facilitate a recovery of your data in case something happens to your phone. That is a big no from me. There is no reason for Myki to have your phone number, especially when a manual backup can be done and stored off device. That is a big red flag in my eyes.

 

[macintoshmac]

Looking at the website, I see that the app doesn't use / require a master password and relies on biometrics or a PIN to unlock the vault. That is putting a lot of trust in the biometrics (alone).

I see Myki wants your phone number in order to facilitate a recovery of your data in case something happens to your phone. That is a big no from me.

Agreed. Nothing about this is confidence-inspiring.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Agreed. Nothing about this is confidence-inspiring.

The website states that the phone number is used to transfer the account from one phone to another. There are much better ways to handle the account, than using a phone number. Makes me wonder if they aren't selling the phone number list.

Their privacy statement stinks.

Privacy | MYKI

Privacy notice of the MYKI password manager and authenticator

myki.com

 

[MacBH928]

The opening post in this thread.



You can develop it into whatever you want but the intention of the thread was about the cost, nothing more.

So to accuse me of trolling says more about you.

@MacBH928 would you kindly help clarify your intention to start the thread? It’s very important in the scheme of things, apparently.

Well, not price exactly, but the subscription model itself. I think 1Password is one of the greatest pieces of software that makes your life easier and it "Just Works" and support on the forums and else where has been responsive and great for me in the past. But I will not let them bully me into subscription.

Later on things developed further though as users here explained you are forced to use their cloud service and their new electron app, and while I do not know whats wrong with that, every one hates electron apps it seems.

Other companies have been exposed and breached, but to breach the main vault of all my password...yikes!

I'm enjoying KeePassXC a lot more than I thought I would - got the database in iCloud, got a key file, and I've been using it for a few weeks now without a problem.

Come to find out, I use Keychain for most everything and 1Password for a few secure notes and 2FA. iOS 15 will allow me to transfer all 2FA to Keychain and I'm good to go. Really no need to pay for 1Password at this point for me.

The decision has to be made though, can I live without my secure notes on my iPad / iPhone?

Well make sure to donate, because while they don't force you to pay, with out money they can not continue development and this way is a nice way of thanking the developers and giving you options so greedy corporates like 1Password can't force you to use their products.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Well make sure to donate, because while they don't force you to pay, with out money they can not continue development and this way is a nice way of thanking the developers and giving you options so greedy corporates like 1Password can't force you to use their products.

Always - I like to pay for what I use. (Already done so to janek@keepassxc.org).

 

[MacBH928]

Any other opinions on Nord? The security seems good, per this PC Mag review:

"With NordPass, your passwords are encrypted on your device locally using xChaCha20, before being sent to NordPass' servers. A company representative noted that "we [NordPass] use Amazon Web Services as our cloud provider with our own Key Management Solution for Hardware Encryption." When you need to access your passwords, the encrypted data syncs back to your device, at which point you need to decrypt it with your master password. As mentioned, NordPass says it employs a zero-knowledge infrastructure, which is to say the company never knows your master password and thus can never decrypt your data. Although this means you have few recovery options, it also means that even a data breach will not risk your information to exposure.

Note that NordPass underwent an audit by Cure53. You can read NordPass's summary of the results on its blog, though note that the full publication is not on Cure53's site. Bitwarden has been audited several times, as well. More password managers should commit to regular

Nord does not have the best of reputation. You can choose what you like, and in reality we can't go in there and check on them what they are doing and if they are trust worthy, but people as a whole are suspicious of Nord. If you decide to trust them thats up to you.

I am going to trust EnPass, are they trust worthy? I don't know but looks like the best replacement for 1password for me.

With Bitwarden, I feel it is useless to shift to it in my case, because 1Password is priced at USD 15 in my location whereas Bitwarden is USD 10 and after currency conversion charges, the net difference that Apple charges me and what USD 10 would reflect as in my credit card statement would be roughly USD 2-3. At that price difference, 1Password makes for a much more appealing solution even with version 8.


Net result, I am still wondering how to avoid using 1Password and get out of this subscription.

I need:
- separation of passwords (like vaults)
- flawless import of TOTPs
- in-line or at least easy-to-use password generator and changer (1Password is really good at this)

That's more or less it.

Bitwarden is free and open source, no need to subscribe or pay anything?!

 

[MacBH928]

I use Myki. Migrated from 1Password very easily. They have a free tier. It syncs between Mac and IOS. It stores passwords locally.

Hey this Myki looks legit, trusting their site looks like it has a complete organization behind it. Also enough user reviews on the app store.

 

[MacBH928]

I am surprised no one even considered Dashlane, is it that bad ? 🤣

 

[MisterSavage]

KeePassXC is working for me really well - been using it for a few weeks now - I had to do some work to get it to import 1Password correctly but once it did, minus the UI being not as polished, it's working perfectly for me. I'm so happy using it, I'm seriously considering just keeping it for now LOL. Yep.

Waaaay back when I had a Windows PC I was a happy KeePass user. Great to see that a fork of it is still going strong.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Waaaay back when I had a Windows PC I was a happy KeePass user. Great to see that a fork of it is still going strong.

Same here, I was a huge KeePass proponent back when I was a Windows user (moved to Apple around 2015). Our work computers (Windows) have KeePass still, too lol.

 

[MisterSavage]

Same here, I was a huge KeePass proponent back when I was a Windows user (moved to Apple around 2015). Our work computers (Windows) have KeePass still, too lol.

At work the only password manager we're allowed to use is Password Safe and I loathe it.

 

[DotCom2]

I use DataVault and love it. No keeping of your records on their servers. Save your backup to any device. Has Master password and Face ID.
TRY IT!

 

[Apple_Robert]

I use DataVault and love it. No keeping of your records on their servers. Save your backup to any device. Has Master password and Face ID.
TRY IT!

The Mac and iOS versions haven't been updated in a year.

 

[travelsheep]

Who was talking about cheap? I paid like $80 twice over the years. I do not know fi that is considered cheap but that is nearing a Windows license price I think?!

1password is $35.88 per year for a single license and $71,88 for a family plan

Pricing Plans for the Best Password Manager | 1Password

Choose a 1Password plan for your small business, family or enterprise. Start a free trial and enjoy password management, data breach protection, and more.

1password.com

 

[bradl]

1password is $35.88 per year for a single license and $71,88 for a family plan

Pricing Plans for the Best Password Manager | 1Password

Choose a 1Password plan for your small business, family or enterprise. Start a free trial and enjoy password management, data breach protection, and more.

1password.com

Not anymore. You can no longer purchase single use licenses for a standalone program. Everything with 1Password 8 and later is a subscription, at at least $3/month, getting you at $36/year, but you lose a lot of features the standalone licenses had, one of which is there being no way to sync to a local vault.

BL.

 

[macintoshmac]

Nord does not have the best of reputation. You can choose what you like, and in reality we can't go in there and check on them what they are doing and if they are trust worthy, but people as a whole are suspicious of Nord. If you decide to trust them thats up to you.

I am going to trust EnPass, are they trust worthy? I don't know but looks like the best replacement for 1password for me.




Bitwarden is free and open source, no need to subscribe or pay anything?!

I need to, because I have a need for TOTPs, unless I start using another app for TOTPs.

 

[spacemnspiff]

Not except the same problem I have, with 1Password 6. At some point, do you plan on upgrading your Mac (I'm assuming you're on a Mac)? If so, once Apple does away with Intel in their lineup, you'll have no choice but Apple Silicon. And if Rosetta goes away prior to your upgrade, you're stuck as your license may not work on 1Password 7.

Right now, we're stuck with no viable upgrade path that doesn't require a subscription and losing control of the location of your vault.

BL.

Thanks for the reply. I don't use Macs, but my kids do. I use a PC/Win10 machine with 1P4 on it for years. It's been working fine, doesn't get any updates yet. But with free Dropbox, I can only sync it with three devices, 2 iPhones and 1 PC. I am looking to get off 1Password and Bitwarden might be a good candidate.

 

[toasted ICT]

Something else I found.

I described in earlier post this thread, I liked KeepassXC for Mac and PC with Strongbox for iOS but it keepassXC doesnt have browser integration with Safari so one is stuck with copy and paste if one uses Safari.

So I ended up with Safeincloud....its a small developer based in Russia... its not opensource, been going since 2012 so probably ok. I have used it for a couple of years now. But some folk dont feel comfortable with it.

Anyway, it turns out Strongbox for macOS does have Safari browser integration. its opensource and uses keepass formats. They do Strongbox for ios too. Looks good if you dont need PC support.

 

[macsplusmacs]

This is really an opportunity for some 1password devs to quit. and create their own.


$$$$

 

[maflynn]

This is really an opportunity for some 1password devs to quit. and create their own.

I don't see that happening for a variety of reasons. First its probably safe to bet that devs and others are under an NDA, and quote possibly a non-compete clause, i.e., cannot leave and directly work on a password manager program.

I think the biggest reason is why would the devs want to quit? Granted I've not been terribly active or following this thread but are the developers upset that the product they're working on is now 100% subscription based and local vaults will go by way of the dodo?

 

[macsplusmacs]

You don't have much of a entrepreneurial spirit I bet. (that's ok. not meant as a slight)

Some people want to be in charge of their own destinies.

 

[srbNYC]

I still can't understand why dropping the local-sync option is that valuable to them. I can deal with the pricing separately—but it's the one-two punch here that seems to be most troublesome.

 

[macsplusmacs]

I still can't understand why dropping the local-sync option is that valuable to them. I can deal with the pricing separately—but it's the one-two punch here that seems to be most troublesome.

Lock in. Of the worse kind.

Their Venture Capital Overlords deemed it such I would bet.

 

[bradl]

You don't have much of a entrepreneurial spirit I bet. (that's ok. not meant as a slight)

Some people want to be in charge of their own destinies.

There are more chances than not that there is a NDA or non-compete clause in effect, which would kill any shot at going off on their own for a rival product, at least in the next 6-18 months.

Someone similar tried to do the same at Intel about 2 years ago. The guy announced that he was leaving, and in the next 2 weeks he plugged in a USB stick on his laptop, got to his network share, and took his code (that he developed at Intel), and then left to go work at the same position at Micron, which is 1.5 miles down the street from Intel here. Intel caught wind of it (forensics) and sued him for not only the NDA and non-compete violations, but IP theft, because even though he wrote the code, the code that he wrote became the IP of Intel.

The lawsuit is still ongoing, and the developer was fired from Micron before even stepping foot in their building.

In this case, the developers of 1Password would be in the same position and definitely wouldn't want to risk that.

BL.

 

[MacBH928]

1password is $35.88 per year for a single license and $71,88 for a family plan

Pricing Plans for the Best Password Manager | 1Password

Choose a 1Password plan for your small business, family or enterprise. Start a free trial and enjoy password management, data breach protection, and more.

1password.com

every year, and you if you don't pay up it stops functioning.