1Password on Mac Updated With Easier and Smarter Drag-and-Drop Password Functionality

[TriBruin]

When I find an application that provides value for me and does its job extremely well I am willing to support it, even with a subscription
That said, the only ones I subscribe to are:

• DropBox
• NordVPN
• 1Password

1Password does far more than just retrieve a password

• Checks for reused passwords
• Shows when passwords were found in a security breach
• Shows when passwords are in a database of exposed passwords
• Saves 2 Factor Authentication codes

I have replaced all my passwords with generated passwords now and it was painless and secure

There are other good solutions, but I have used 1Password for years, and I don't begrudge the subscription for it at all

I can add one more indispensable item, shared Vaults. I love that I have multiple vaults that I can choose to share or not share passwords with other people. Video accounts, all family members have access. Bank account, only me and my wife. Personal website, only me. Heck, one time I had to send my son some tax documents. I create a new vault, copies the files to the vault and granted him access. No need for unsecure email or using a file sharing account.

I get that people don't like subscriptions, but for an application I use 20-50 times a day, this is worth it.

(And no Keychain is not a suitable replacement.)

 

[iGeneo]

IIRC, Enpass has no browser access?

Anyhow, 1PW has been stellar and the frequent upgrades are well worth the sub.

Excellent support when I’ve needed it and the app is fully featured.

Latest version works great and the drag and drop is cool.

This thread is about a new version of 1PW, not a review thread. This is what taints this forum, people comimg into a thread where they have no dog in the fight just to piss on it.

 

[2499723]

I second your recommendation for Enpass. I moved from 1Password to Enpass for this very reason. The one I’ve been using the most lately is perhaps an even better solution: Myki. Check it out. It’s pretty cool.

Aside from a single VPN app, I’ve moved away from subscription apps entirely. So, I had to move away from Ulysses. For that I went to IAwriter. I got a lifetime license on an excellent cloud storage service. For writing and research, I use DEVONthink and Scrivener.

Are you my clone (or vice versa)? I’m totally with you on all counts. My most recent subscription abandonment was Adobe CC in favour of Apple’s Pro apps bundle (Final Cut, Logic, etc). There are plenty of Photoshop replacements out there now, so that wasn’t missed, and all of my Audition plugins work in Logic, so on measure, it was actually a much cheaper alternative. I was paying basically the equivalent per year for Adobe CC.

Scrivener is getting better with each major update, and I’m quite happy to pay for those, as they’re so infrequent. Anyway, it was very refreshing to hear from someone with a similar outlook. I feel like shedding subscriptions is the new detox diet of the late 2010s.

Thanks for the Myki recommendation. I haven’t heard of it before, but it’s something I’ll happily check out.

 

[Jemi9OD]

I can add one more indispensable item, shared Vaults. I love that I have multiple vaults that I can choose to share or not share passwords with other people.

Yes, Yes, Yes. I'm paying roughly $60USD/year for the family plan, despite only having two members of my family. I use four vaults currently - one for only my wife, one for shared logins for both of us, one for only me, and a work one also only for me. I also store bank information, credit card information, drivers license info, etc - all easily accessible via any of my devices.

I have no idea what kind of money Software Developers make, but if it's, say, $20/hr, I'm *beyond* happy to pay for three hours of salary for a year's worth of password protection for two people. That, and it will tell me which passwords have been found in breaches, which passwords are reused between accounts, which passwords haven't been changed in a while, and offers top notch browser integration to boot. For me and my wife, it is WELL worth it.

 

[wicked271]

It’s Enpass for me. They don’t bury their one-time license fee in obscure places just so people think subscription is the only option. When 1Password went that route, I ditched them and never looked back. Enpass is great and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for an alternative.

Thanks for the recommendation. Will try Enpass when my 1password subscription expires.

I bought a year of 1password in hopes that the Windows app will be better in the latest version but so far, it’s still buggy, slow and not as nice as the Mac version. I still end up opening the 1password on my iPhone coz its faster.

Better to just buy a one time 1password license for iPhone or move to a different app. iCloud is getting better in saving my passwords too.

 

[capandjudy]

this is a awful release. Super buggy. My 1password mini won't even open. The browser extension won't either. Super disappointing. Don't update!!

I had a Hell of time getting my browser extensions to work but after trying a number things as suggested, they eventually came back to life. I don't exactly know what I did to make them work but just keep at it. High Sierra.

 

[MisterSavage]

I had a Hell of time getting my browser extensions to work but after trying a number things as suggested, they eventually came back to life. I don't exactly know what I did to make them work but just keep at it. High Sierra.

My browser extension stopped working after I upgraded. Shutting down both 1Password and Chrome and then restarting them fixed it. What's weird is that before I tried that it was telling me to install the browser extension even though it was already installed.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

It’s Enpass for me. They don’t bury their one-time license fee in obscure places just so people think subscription is the only option. When 1Password went that route, I ditched them and never looked back. Enpass is great and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for an alternative.

I did this as well. Much cheaper, and focused only on the one thing I need them to do well. (Looking at you Evernote. I switched to Onenote instead there as well.)

 

[bwoodruff]

Hi folks,

Full disclosure: I work for 1Password and am currently here in that capacity, though I do sometimes visit and contribute on my own time as well.

Bought a license for 7 and use it all time. Overall I really like it but it drives me insane that there's not a way to reveal the master password as I type it. Mine is really long and if I suspect I fat-fingered it there's no way to know.

That's an interesting idea. I'll discuss it with the team. Thanks!

I can't in good conscience upgrade to even the one-time purchase version of 1Password because AgileBits' behavior strongly indicates they want everyone on the subscription plan (which I don't want). They've hidden the one-time purchase, and they deployed a legion of people on social media to more or less shove people to the subscription through the use of disingenuous language ("it's better for you"). It's clear the one-time version will go away eventually, if not soon. AgileBits is entirely within their rights to do this, of course, and they may well make more money in the short term. In some ways it would be preferable if they had removed the one-time purchase with the introduction of the subscription plan and then clearly indicated that on their website.

As we've seen with companies like Adobe, however, this is about stable-increasing quarterly revenue and not about their customers.

And, just as with Adobe, a bunch of imitators have cropped up. For the moment those imitators are not as good as 1Password. However, with Apple providing their own bare-bones solution as well as integration points in iOS... time will tell.

Admittedly we do strongly recommend the membership (subscription) route. I understand your feelings about the business model but it does truly allow us to offer the best 1Password experience possible. Syncing via 3rd party generic storage providers was cool 5 years ago when it was the only option available. There is something better now. We offer a custom built solution that addresses many of the problems and requests that customers have with generic sync. The ability to securely share data is a huge one.

I also bought a one time license for 1P and use it on my Mac, iPad, and iPhone with vault syncing via Dropbox. I’ve paid a one time fee for each major new version but it’s cheaper than the $3/month subscription.

I’m of two minds about subscription pricing vs one time license purchases.

I like supporting developers that make really useful apps that are well designed. But the shift from the purchase model to the subscription pricing model seems like a blatant cash grab. And of course a way for the App Store to generate more income for Apple. You’re not just supporting the developer when you subscribe.

We offer the option to subscribe directly through our website if you'd prefer that route. Doesn't have to involve the App Store at all.

this is a awful release. Super buggy. My 1password mini won't even open. The browser extension won't either. Super disappointing. Don't update!!

I'm sorry you're having trouble. A reboot should resolve it, but please reach out to us (support at 1password dot com) if it doesn't.

I find it absurd not to. 1Password makes my digital identity more secure and I use it anywhere from 5 to 15 times a day, almost every day, across multiple devices. It’s worth it to pay a few bucks a month to support these devs and ensure they’ll be profitable enough to continue to maintain, support and improve it over time.

Thanks so much for the kind words and support!

I can add one more indispensable item, shared Vaults. I love that I have multiple vaults that I can choose to share or not share passwords with other people. Video accounts, all family members have access. Bank account, only me and my wife. Personal website, only me. Heck, one time I had to send my son some tax documents. I create a new vault, copies the files to the vault and granted him access. No need for unsecure email or using a file sharing account.

I get that people don't like subscriptions, but for an application I use 20-50 times a day, this is worth it.

(And no Keychain is not a suitable replacement.)

Absolutely. I get it too. But I'm as much a customer as a team member, and I started out as a customer long before I signed on. I have no qualms about paying a few dollars per month for something I use constantly. Thanks for your support and patronage.

IIRC, Enpass has no browser access?

Anyhow, 1PW has been stellar and the frequent upgrades are well worth the sub.

Excellent support when I’ve needed it and the app is fully featured.

Latest version works great and the drag and drop is cool.

This thread is about a new version of 1PW, not a review thread. This is what taints this forum, people comimg into a thread where they have no dog in the fight just to piss on it.

Thanks for saying so.

Yes, Yes, Yes. I'm paying roughly $60USD/year for the family plan, despite only having two members of my family. I use four vaults currently - one for only my wife, one for shared logins for both of us, one for only me, and a work one also only for me. I also store bank information, credit card information, drivers license info, etc - all easily accessible via any of my devices.

I have no idea what kind of money Software Developers make, but if it's, say, $20/hr, I'm *beyond* happy to pay for three hours of salary for a year's worth of password protection for two people. That, and it will tell me which passwords have been found in breaches, which passwords are reused between accounts, which passwords haven't been changed in a while, and offers top notch browser integration to boot. For me and my wife, it is WELL worth it.

Sharing is one of my favorite features of 1Password Families membership. I'm glad to hear you like it too, and that you find we're providing good value for your money.

My browser extension stopped working after I upgraded. Shutting down both 1Password and Chrome and then restarting them fixed it. What's weird is that before I tried that it was telling me to install the browser extension even though it was already installed.

We've heard a few reports of this. Restarting the Mac seems to fix it in all reported cases. Sorry for the trouble.

 

[MisterSavage]

That's an interesting idea. I'll discuss it with the team. Thanks!

Oh I've submitted feedback multiple times about this issue going back several years. The best response I've gotten was that it was an interesting idea that wouldn't be trivial to implement. I had hoped with version 7 it would be added but it wasn't. It's so frustrating because it's such basic functionality and almost encourages you not to have a long, complex master password. That and the ability to mark password entries as 'expired' are the only things that I miss from Keepass.

 

[bwoodruff]

Oh I've submitted feedback multiple times about this issue going back several years. The best response I've gotten was that it was an interesting idea that wouldn't be trivial to implement. I had hoped with version 7 it would be added but it wasn't. It's so frustrating because it's such basic functionality and almost encourages you not to have a long, complex master password. That and the ability to mark password entries as 'expired' are the only things that I miss from Keepass.

I understand. As with anything though it likely comes down to prioritization and supply/demand. I've been with 1Password for 10+ years, and as far as I can recall this is the first time I'm hearing of this request, which makes me think there aren't a lot of customers asking for it. That certainly isn't to say we wouldn't ever do it, or that it isn't a great idea, but we do need to balance that against everything else everyone wants as well. I'll bring it up.

 

[ignatius345]

I'm still on the last version. Find it absurd to subscribe to a password retrieval app.

I'm very subscription-averse too, but I do think 1Password is an app that actively evolves to a changing web and constant security threats, and that to me justifies the annual cost.

Feature-mature apps like Ulysses, however, I think have much less justification for charging a repeating fee to rent the software. That app has undergone minor tweaks at best since it went to the rental model.

The only software I know that does the "rental" model right is Agenda, which lets you subscribe for a year's worth of new premium features at a time -- and then those are yours to keep after the year ends. Contrast that with most software subscription schemes which leave you empty-handed as soon as you stop paying.

Again, I think there's a case to be made for "software as a service" apps like 1Password, but that pricing model really gets abused a lot these days.

 

[MacDawg]

I understand. As with anything though it likely comes down to prioritization and supply/demand. I've been with 1Password for 10+ years, and as far as I can recall this is the first time I'm hearing of this request, which makes me think there aren't a lot of customers asking for it. That certainly isn't to say we wouldn't ever do it, or that it isn't a great idea, but we do need to balance that against everything else everyone wants as well. I'll bring it up.

Then mark me down as one who would like this feature as well
I too, have a long master password and there are times I am not sure if I hit a key correctly or missed it, etc. and I have to finish to find out I need to start over

I use 1Password a lot during the day, and have it scheduled to shut down fairly quickly in a corporate environment
So I am logging in several times a day to access

 

[bwoodruff]

Then mark me down as one who would like this feature as well
I too, have a long master password and there are times I am not sure if I hit a key correctly or missed it, etc. and I have to finish to find out I need to start over

I use 1Password a lot during the day, and have it scheduled to shut down fairly quickly in a corporate environment
So I am logging in several times a day to access

MisterSavage ended up DMing me and we figured out why this hasn't been done. Doing so would require that we give up Secure Input for the Master Password field, which is an important protection against keyloggers and other similar threats.

 

[MacDawg]

MisterSavage ended up DMing me and we figured out why this hasn't been done. Doing so would require that we give up Secure Input for the Master Password field, which is an important protection against keyloggers and other similar threats.

Understood and appreciated
It's just a minor inconvenience, but I respect the security

 

[dogslobber]

Switched to Enpass years ago.